Calzaghe v BIKA

Ronners · Post by **Ronners** » 21 Aug 2006, 07:27

According to the BBC website, sorry struggled to post the link.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 21 Aug 2006, 07:33

That is probably why Bika pulled out of the SHObox tournament.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 21 Aug 2006, 07:41

Another promise of a 'mega fight' in February.

This one is a mismatch

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 21 Aug 2006, 07:52

this is great, another relatively unknown, awkward guy that he'll probably either look bad against / fight down to / or break his hands against with slap attacks.

SN, you guys INVITE criticism

you don't need Tourrettes to say "Wankers!"

on top of that, no Abraham-Miranda. Abraham will probably fine and well when junior middles are delivered.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 21 Aug 2006, 08:11

And February's "MEGA"fight is....... Glen Johnson or Clinton Woods. Megafight my fornicating arse.

Fights against the likes of Woods/Johnson should be the norm for a world champion like Calzaghe, but the norm are fights against total no marks like this Bika fella while the megafights are what should constitute his regular title fights. 9 years as world champion and nothing has changed.

holyfields_ear · Post by **holyfields_ear** » 21 Aug 2006, 08:21

Take a look at his record. He is a middleweight who's biggest success has been a points defeat to middleweight contender Sam Soliman. Just because Beyer dragged up him from nowhere to fight for his WBC belt that does not make him a legitimate super middleweight contender Frank! I can understand fighters getting a gimme fight when they've faced the kind of opposition of Taylor or Corrales or even if plans have been made for superfight a few months down the line. But Calzaghes oppostion has been poor (with hindsight in the case of Lacy) and I doubt any fight with Johnson or Woods will take place before next summer and definitely not in February as that BBC article says!

There's still time, Frank, tell Bika to take a walk and bring Winky over! You could put a spin on the fight of how he's after revenge for his mate Lacy and you still have Calzaghe beating up on a naturally smaller light hitting guy. Which is what you want isn't it?

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 21 Aug 2006, 09:03

holyfields_ear wrote: Take a look at his record. He is a middleweight who's biggest success has been a points defeat to middleweight contender Sam Soliman. Just because Beyer dragged up him from nowhere to fight for his WBC belt that does not make him a legitimate super middleweight contender Frank! I can understand fighters getting a gimme fight when they've faced the kind of opposition of Taylor or Corrales or even if plans have been made for superfight a few months down the line. But Calzaghes oppostion has been poor (with hindsight in the case of Lacy) and I doubt any fight with Johnson or Woods will take place before next summer and definitely not in February as that BBC article says!

There's still time, Frank, tell Bika to take a walk and bring Winky over! You could put a spin on the fight of how he's after revenge for his mate Lacy and you still have Calzaghe beating up on a naturally smaller light hitting guy. Which is what you want isn't it?

Soliman is a natural JMW as well. The draw with Beyer wasn't grounds for a fight with Calzaghe. Joe just destroyed all the good press the fight with Lacy had gotten him.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 21 Aug 2006, 09:15

Big disapointment this is... why is it so hard for Warrens fighters to actually fight someone who can fight back???..... its a disgrace really... no wonder most of the public cant be arsed with boxing nowadays.... if I was relying on the boxing scene of today and didnt collect classic fights from times when the top fighters actually fought eachother I wouldnt be arsed either.... :x :x :x ...this fight is a disgrace! shame on you fwank!....

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 21 Aug 2006, 09:18

silkov wrote:Big disapointment this is... why is it so hard for Warrens fighters to actually fight someone who can fight back???..... its a disgrace really... no wonder most of the public cant be arsed with boxing nowadays.... if I was relying on the boxing scene of today and didnt collect classic fights from times when the top fighters actually fought eachother I wouldnt be arsed either.... :x :x :x ...this fight is a disgrace! shame on you fwank!....

Because as long as people will fill up Millenium and M.E.N. for every Calzaghe fight no matter whom he puts in with him, he'll keep doing it. No risk fights that make money, can't beat it.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 21 Aug 2006, 09:18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNXvKFMTwrY

Bit of Bika on youtube

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 21 Aug 2006, 09:21

Calzaghe has been promised a "mega fight" next February by promoter allegedly if he comes through unscathed.

A quip from the BBC article. Anyone else think Joe and Frank are already loading up an excuse to push the Feb fight back until like June 07?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 21 Aug 2006, 09:23

silkov wrote:Big disapointment this is... why is it so hard for Warrens fighters to actually fight someone who can fight back???..... its a disgrace really... no wonder most of the public cant be arsed with boxing nowadays.... if I was relying on the boxing scene of today and didnt collect classic fights from times when the top fighters actually fought eachother I wouldnt be arsed either.... :x :x :x ...this fight is a disgrace! shame on you fwank!....

Unfortunatly Silkov, its because most of the public can't be arsed with boxing that matches like this are put together, SN know that alot of fans are just casuel without much knowledge of boxing , so they can sell fights like this.
if boxing was big news in the tabloid papers again then the general public can see that this is a pretty bad match-up, what we need is headlines in the Sun, Mirror etc slagging this match off, might affect ticket sales. Which would make SN try harder next time.

some hope though eh!

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 21 Aug 2006, 09:32

topper123 wrote:
silkov wrote:Big disapointment this is... why is it so hard for Warrens fighters to actually fight someone who can fight back???..... its a disgrace really... no wonder most of the public cant be arsed with boxing nowadays.... if I was relying on the boxing scene of today and didnt collect classic fights from times when the top fighters actually fought eachother I wouldnt be arsed either.... :x :x :x ...this fight is a disgrace! shame on you fwank!....
Unfortunatly Silkov, its because most of the public can't be arsed with boxing that matches like this are put together, SN know that alot of fans are just casuel without much knowledge of boxing , so they can sell fights like this.
if boxing was big news in the tabloid papers again then the general public can see that this is a pretty bad match-up, what we need is headlines in the Sun, Mirror etc slagging this match off, might affect ticket sales. Which would make SN try harder next time.

some hope though eh!

Casual paying public sees their guy at 41-0 vs a 20-1 guy...good match up on paper in that regards.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 21 Aug 2006, 10:18

I guess that's what the long reigning champs have to do, take easy fights. The sad thing is, Calzaghe can't seem to get up for fights like this. Fighting a guy who drew beyer on a technicality (was it a head clash?) could be a bad sort of omen.

The pathetic thing is, they will say that Calzaghe is fighting a man who drew beyer. Meaning it's the same as taking on beyer. That's where the hype will probably kick in.

I'll watch the fight, as I am more interested in Calzaghe nowadays. But I'm not overjoyed at this match. If his next fight is the Woods-Johnson winner, that will be cool with me.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 21 Aug 2006, 10:20

What an absolute joke.

Calzaghe is a fool for allowing this tripe.

Warren will try to deliver a 'mega fight' after Bika.....sorry,but please don't insult true boxing fan's by claiming Woods or Johnson are names that conjure a mega fight.
Old allegedly is a proper c*nt.And whoever shells out to watch this farce deserves another Calzaghe pull out IMO.

states · Post by **states** » 21 Aug 2006, 10:23

In this article, Calzaghe mentions the Feburary fight could be a 'unification fight':

http://www.skysports.com/skysports/arti ... 52,00.html

Surely not the Kessler-Beyer winner? Nah, that would be ridiculous.....

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Aug 2006, 10:27

Diabolical tripe. God almighty, what is the point of this fight aside of course from adding money to Calzaghe's retirement fund. I really hoped the Lacy fight would be a springboard to a legacy building career finale, some hope. I'll believe a fight with Johnson when I see it, it's been called of what four times now? I know Calzaghe is injury prone and all that, but it's like someone need only mention Glen Johnson and Calzaghe falls down a flight of stairs every time. It's kind of like the boxing equivalen of saying Macbeth in the theatre....

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 21 Aug 2006, 10:39

what a fcuking shitbag

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 21 Aug 2006, 10:54

I don't like to undermine greats of the past, as can be the norm with today's revisionists. But Calzaghe's post Lacy schedule it reminds me of Larry Holmes - beating the one dimensional, left hook obsessed, power punching, undefeated Cooney, and then taking on guys like Scott Frank and Marvis Frazier.

states · Post by **states** » 21 Aug 2006, 11:23

Still, at least the undercard looks decent: Nelson-Maccarinelli and Burns-Murray are both on. Of course, ITV probably won't show them, but nevermind.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 21 Aug 2006, 11:30

I'm waiting for Max to say that if Bika is good enough for Beyer he ought to be good enough for Calzaghe.

In fact, Max would be right IF Calzaghe would then also take Kessler as the next opponent - just like Beyer.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 21 Aug 2006, 11:32

If Calzaghe isn't going to fight a major name - and, let's be fair, Kessler-Beyer-Woods-Johnson are all occupied - HE SHOULD BE DEFENDING AGAINST HIS MANDATORIES. after he beat Lacy, I kept on hearing that the IBF were pressing for a fight with Stieglitz.

Also, I presumed that it was Rudy Markussen who didn't want to fight Calzaghe (for the WBO title), but Palle are complaining that they have bene mandatory for 2 years. Are Palle grandstanding so that they get a shot when JC moves up to 175?

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 21 Aug 2006, 11:33

Bad fight but he was gonna get stick regardless of opp, I'd prefer to see him keep busy and let's face it Bika was beating Beyer before the stoppage.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 21 Aug 2006, 11:48

lvlarc_uk wrote:Bad fight but he was gonna get stick regardless of opp, I'd prefer to see him keep busy and let's face it Bika was beating Beyer before the stoppage.

Well, he has no excuse for a Kess/Beyer winner fight now, seeing as he "promised" something big for Feb.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 21 Aug 2006, 11:52

Mattyp151 wrote:
lvlarc_uk wrote:Bad fight but he was gonna get stick regardless of opp, I'd prefer to see him keep busy and let's face it Bika was beating Beyer before the stoppage.
Well, he has no excuse for a Kess/Beyer winner fight now, seeing as he "promised" something big for Feb.

Except that the winner of Kessler-Beyer isn't big enough and that he has to fight Ashira again instead.