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What ATG do you think had weakest opposition?
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Aaron Pryor really only has Alexis Arguello in his 4th weight class.

Probably Pryor

Julio Cesar Chavez's isn't too deep when you look past the numbers either.
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Wlad and Citakyare obvuous hoiced
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DrDuke wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 16:21 Wlad and Citakyare obvuous hoiced
who da f@ck is citakyare my man?
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gilgamesh wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 15:17 Aaron Pryor really only has Alexis Arguello in his 4th weight class.

Probably Pryor

Julio Cesar Chavez's isn't too deep when you look past the numbers either.
Chavez? You have to be kidding.
He beat Camacho, and Rosario. Also beat several good fighters like Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Greg Haugen, Tony Lopez, Ramirez. He beat a lot of stiffs as well. However, there is no question he beat a lot of quality competition. His resume is very deep.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 16:29
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 15:17 Aaron Pryor really only has Alexis Arguello in his 4th weight class.

Probably Pryor

Julio Cesar Chavez's isn't too deep when you look past the numbers either.
Chavez? You have to be kidding.
He beat Camacho, and Rosario. Also beat several good fighters like Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Greg Haugen, Tony Lopez, Ramirez. He beat a lot of stiffs as well. However, there is no question he beat a lot of quality competition. His resume is very deep.
It is deep for sure. Although Camacho was waaay past his prime in 1992.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 16:26
DrDuke wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 16:21 Wlad and Citakyare obvuous hoiced
who da f@ck is citakyare my man?
Dunno, I was drunk as f8ck when I wrote it. :D
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:yay:
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 16:29
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 15:17 Aaron Pryor really only has Alexis Arguello in his 4th weight class.

Probably Pryor

Julio Cesar Chavez's isn't too deep when you look past the numbers either.
Chavez? You have to be kidding.
He beat Camacho, and Rosario. Also beat several good fighters like Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Greg Haugen, Tony Lopez, Ramirez. He beat a lot of stiffs as well. However, there is no question he beat a lot of quality competition. His resume is very deep.
What about Pryor

Other than Arguello 2x and Cervantes. He don't got much.
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Probably Marciano (I'll get some abuse for that)
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I think the word Great is thrown around too much. Names like Riddick Bowe and James Toney are not All Time Great boxers. ATGs are the best of the best.
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Roy Jones
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 22 Dec 2022, 04:55 I think the word Great is thrown around too much. Names like Riddick Bowe and James Toney are not All Time Great boxers. ATGs are the best of the best.
To me when you say a guy is an ATG it just means he'd be formidable in any era you'd wanna drop him into. I can't really see too many guys from any era making easy work out of Bowe or Toney at their best.
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1150004 wrote: 22 Dec 2022, 03:35 Probably Marciano (I'll get some abuse for that)
Shouldn't get abuse at all. I was just about to post the same.
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oogiebe wrote: 24 Dec 2022, 14:37
1150004 wrote: 22 Dec 2022, 03:35 Probably Marciano (I'll get some abuse for that)
Shouldn't get abuse at all. I was just about to post the same.
Marciano doesn't have a ton of huge names, but Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles are both Top 5 all time Light Heavyweights so beating them is significant.

Of course the win over Joe Louis is good on paper, but it wasn't a peak Joe as we all know. The wins over La Starza ain't bad.

Ultimately his resume is fairly weak, but at least there's more than 1 name of note on it. There's some guys who's resume is basically only 1 significant win deep.
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DrDuke wrote: 22 Dec 2022, 00:04
margaret thatcher wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 16:26
DrDuke wrote: 21 Dec 2022, 16:21 Wlad and Citakyare obvuous hoiced
who da f@ck is citakyare my man?
Dunno, I was drunk as f8ck when I wrote it. :D
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Is Joe Calzaghe considered ATG?
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Ricardo Lopez.

With how stacked his era was for the little guys, he somehow managed to face basically none of them.
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Imagine how great you are to be the guy with the weakest ATG record!! :OhYes:
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gilgamesh wrote: 24 Dec 2022, 19:48
oogiebe wrote: 24 Dec 2022, 14:37
1150004 wrote: 22 Dec 2022, 03:35 Probably Marciano (I'll get some abuse for that)
Shouldn't get abuse at all. I was just about to post the same.
Marciano doesn't have a ton of huge names, but Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles are both Top 5 all time Light Heavyweights so beating them is significant.

Of course the win over Joe Louis is good on paper, but it wasn't a peak Joe as we all know. The wins over La Starza ain't bad.

Ultimately his resume is fairly weak, but at least there's more than 1 name of note on it. There's some guys who's resume is basically only 1 significant win deep.
who should he have fought then to make his r3sume less 'weak'?

he fought and beat everybody that was put in front of him.

did the original 'rock' duck anybody as champion or before?

maybe i just don't get it but this 'weak resume' discussion doesn't really make a whole lotta sense to me, at least in his case.
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There's definitely a lot of guys with weaker resumes than Marciano.
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adislav123 wrote: 01 Jan 2023, 09:50
maybe i just don't get it but this 'weak resume' discussion doesn't really make a whole lotta sense to me, at least in his case.
Just interesting to see who had the easier route to being an ATG. Of course every career is different and not everyone has great opposition around like others did. Marciano is an ATG but for me he didn't beat anyone of note who was in their prime. Louis, Walcott, Charles and Moore are all ATG fighters but they were all past their best years.
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Walcott still had a lot left when he fought Marciano the first time. Simply watching the fight shows that.
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