Sergio Martinez angling for GGG

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Sergio Martinez angling for GGG

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https://www.BS.com/sergio-mart ... on--171399

At 47 years old, and ranked at third in WBA's middleweight rankings, former two-time world champion Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez is certain that in 2023 he will get a new opportunity to fight for a world title and he aims to challenge Gennady Golovkin - even if his life is at risk.

“If I can pick who to challenge, I would say Gennady Golovkin," Martinez told Izquierdazo. “Someone can tell me that Golovkin is going to kill me. Yes, I know he can kill me. Or not. I also know that I can give him a boxing lesson. I’m getting better every day. I’m not getting as good as I was, I’m getting much better”.

Martinez reigned at junior middleweight and middleweight while being a recurrent name in pound for pound rankings. He retired in 2014 after being stopped by Miguel Cotto. In 2020, after six years in retirement, Martinez returned to boxing committed to be a world champion again. Since then, Martinez has fought five times, winning all of them against lower level competition.


But now, Martinez is highly ranked and he thinks that a fight may happen soon against either the super champion Golovkin, or the WBA's "regular" regular champion Erislandy Lara.

“I aim to fight Gennady Golovkin”, Martinez said. “Maybe my manager will aim at Lara. But I know that a fight with Lara might be super boring. Lara gets on his bike and dances around you, moving and moving, so it would be an ugly fight. With Golovkin, I think it would be a nice fight to see, even if he can break me into pieces, or not”.

Actually, Martinez bets on him to give a good fight against Golovkin.

“It is complete madness, I know, but I have all the faith in me that I can give an extraordinary fight against Golovkin”, Martinez said. “And I need to (fight at a great level), because If I don’t, I will die or he will kill me. With Golovkin, there is a good match of styles, I think we could give a great fight. I need to perform at an extraordinary level to win it. I have all the faith in me, and I know it’s crazy, because if I don’t, Golovkin will kill me and destroy me”.

Martinez is aware of his age. He is 47, but his potential opponents will also be above 40 when the time comes for the fight. In April, Erislandy Lara will turn 40 years old, and Gennady Golovkin will be 41.


“I am eight years older than Lara, and almost the same as Golovkin”, Martinez explained. “I will turn 48 years old in February, seven more than Golovkin”.

But the Argentinian feels that age will not be a key factor in a potential fight with Golovkin or Lara.

“When two champions face each other, or a champion with a mandatory challenger, there is little difference between them”, Martinez said. “What will make a difference is the brain, not the age. It won’t even be physical fitness, because we all have a great condition at the required level for a world champion. Both Golovkin, Lara and me, if we fight each other, we will be at a very high level from a physical standpoint. But (the difference) is the head, who has a better tactic and strategy, and who has a better rest the last week before the fight”.

Martinez accepts that his level of opposition since his return to boxing has been very low, and that puts him a lower level than Golovkin or Lara.

“I’m still not at the level of Golovkin or Lara, for now," Martinez conceded. “Because the level of opposition that I have had is inferior, and sometimes very inferior. But I needed contact with the ring, with the ropes, the referee. I needed friction, I needed an opponent attacking me, punching me, aiming to really hurt me. That is what I needed, and I know that I’m progressing and evolving by leaps and bounds."


Sergio is aware that because of his current WBA ranking the opportunity for a world title can come at any moment. But he is also aware that it could be delayed until 2024, and by then, he will be 49 years old.

“I understand that by being ranked as third, the world title fight might come at any moment”, Martinez said. “I can tell you that in 2023, from July onwards, I will get a world title fight. March 2024 at the latest. By then, I will be 49 years old. But well, Bernard Hopkins fought until 51, and he won his last fight at 50”.
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Guessing he got his ranking from beating a washed Brian Rose, who was never good.

I'd probably watch him vs DLH, battle of the has beens, if for free.
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47 ffs, put ya slippers on fella.
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He's got nothing to prove. He lost to Cotto as his body practically fell apart. He should just enjoy life.
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didnt want to fight him a decade ago though
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I say do it.

Let GGG get a measure of revenge for never getting his rightful crack at the Lineal title like he should've until many years later.

If Martinez is stupid enough to wanna get his ass whooping, let him get it.
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the juice makes em all 'feel really good', even 'better than ever'.

roided out of their minds they believe they can return time.

they all still know how to throw a punch and take one, but in the end they all find out the hard way that all the ped's in the world can't put the natural spring of youth back in your legs, required to compete at the top level of boxing.
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adislav123 wrote: 25 Dec 2022, 22:16 the juice makes em all 'feel really good', even 'better than ever'.

roided out of their minds they believe they can return time.

they all still know how to throw a punch and take one, but in the end they all find out the hard way that all the ped's in the world can't put the natural spring of youth back in your legs, required to compete at the top level of boxing.
Do you think he was or is a user?
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Him and Sturm should just get it on in some town hall some where. People would watch
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wrighty wrote: 26 Dec 2022, 08:10 Him and Sturm should just get it on in some town hall some where. People would watch
:TU: This

They should've fought long time ago when they were mw champions.

But this match would sell good in Germany.

G would stop him with ease.

I think this 41 y/o version of G would've stopped even the version of Martinez from the JCCjr fight.
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wrighty wrote: 26 Dec 2022, 08:10
adislav123 wrote: 25 Dec 2022, 22:16 the juice makes em all 'feel really good', even 'better than ever'.

roided out of their minds they believe they can return time.

they all still know how to throw a punch and take one, but in the end they all find out the hard way that all the ped's in the world can't put the natural spring of youth back in your legs, required to compete at the top level of boxing.
Do you think he was or is a user?
🤣good one. look at his face. who wasn't/isn't on the juice is the better question.

if he want's to fight ggg or whoever got the belt when he and wba feel he's ready (the couple of fights until then vs handpicked opponents tailor made for his style won't be the problem). more power to him.

he went in the cotto fight after a 18 month layoff and surgery on both knees and we saw the outcome. his wheels might now be in better condition than back then.

in the actual title fight he got on his mind, i can't really see him succeed.

but against the right guy with judges in the pocket, the ref's 'assistance' and a spirited effort from old but fit maravilla, who knows what's possible. the sky is the limit.
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His knees aren't wrapped , so I assume he's better. He looks in good physically shape. To be in that kind of shape at 47 is crazy.

Martinez vs Sturm in Germany at this time would be a decent match.
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Martinez was good for years. He had those wins over Williams, citron and what not. I don't know why he's doing this, he doesn't need the money?

With GGG its sad he was dodged, Cotto didn't want to play, neither did Martinez. Sturm literally paid money not to fight him whilst he was fighting people like Koji Sato and Ronald Hearns. Geale fancied it and lost.

Pirog was up for it and fancied his chances, even dropping his wbo belt for it, then he injured his back and retired.
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apollo creed wrote: 26 Dec 2022, 12:50

His knees aren't wrapped , so I assume he's better. He looks in good physically shape. To be in that kind of shape at 47 is crazy.

Martinez vs Sturm in Germany at this time would be a decent match.
Yeah he's juiced out of his mind.
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Anyybody who box professionaly at age of 45+ is asking for a brain damage. Anybody who want fight GGG at age of 47 is asking for a funeral
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wrighty wrote: 26 Dec 2022, 13:40 Martinez was good for years. He had those wins over Williams, citron and what not. I don't know why he's doing this, he doesn't need the money?

With GGG its sad he was dodged, Cotto didn't want to play, neither did Martinez. Sturm literally paid money not to fight him whilst he was fighting people like Koji Sato and Ronald Hearns. Geale fancied it and lost.

Pirog was up for it and fancied his chances, even dropping his wbo belt for it, then he injured his back and retired.
I could understand the burning desire of an old fighter to still compete after he has done that his entire life but then what's the point of being badly injured and be crippled for life??

Or maybe Martinez is mentioning G's name to become more relevant? Its funny because when G was younger, guys like Martinez, Quillin or Sturm were shying away for him big time.
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Cent0089 wrote: 26 Dec 2022, 15:38 Anyybody who box professionaly at age of 45+ is asking for a brain damage. Anybody who want fight GGG at age of 47 is asking for a funeral
Ideed, G would wreck him.
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apollo creed wrote: 26 Dec 2022, 17:02
wrighty wrote: 26 Dec 2022, 13:40 Martinez was good for years. He had those wins over Williams, citron and what not. I don't know why he's doing this, he doesn't need the money?

With GGG its sad he was dodged, Cotto didn't want to play, neither did Martinez. Sturm literally paid money not to fight him whilst he was fighting people like Koji Sato and Ronald Hearns. Geale fancied it and lost.

Pirog was up for it and fancied his chances, even dropping his wbo belt for it, then he injured his back and retired.
I could understand the burning desire of an old fighter to still compete after he has done that his entire life but then what's the point of being badly injured and be crippled for life??

Or maybe Martinez is mentioning G's name to become more relevant? Its funny because when G was younger, guys like Martinez, Quillin or Sturm were shying away for him big time.

Martinez had a lot more to lose back then.

On second thoughts he might have even more to lose now.

No, no, no.
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So is DAZN going to televise an execution?
RIP Sergio
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GGG vs Martinez is not going to happen.
This is just an old man trying to talk his way into a payday.
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wrighty wrote: 25 Dec 2022, 13:11 He's got nothing to prove. He lost to Cotto as his body practically fell apart. He should just enjoy life.
No it wasn't. Cotto is an elite fighter, Martinez is not. That's all there is to it. Martinez fought a weak as hell ,Euro-league MW division. Cotto showed everyone that there is levels to this.
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wrighty wrote: 25 Dec 2022, 10:49 https://www.BS.com/sergio-martinez-eyes ... on--171399

At 47 years old, and ranked at third in WBA's middleweight rankings, former two-time world champion Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez is certain that in 2023 he will get a new opportunity to fight for a world title and he aims to challenge Gennady Golovkin - even if his life is at risk.

“If I can pick who to challenge, I would say Gennady Golovkin," Martinez told Izquierdazo. “Someone can tell me that Golovkin is going to kill me. Yes, I know he can kill me. Or not. I also know that I can give him a boxing lesson. I’m getting better every day. I’m not getting as good as I was, I’m getting much better”.

Martinez reigned at junior middleweight and middleweight while being a recurrent name in pound for pound rankings. He retired in 2014 after being stopped by Miguel Cotto. In 2020, after six years in retirement, Martinez returned to boxing committed to be a world champion again. Since then, Martinez has fought five times, winning all of them against lower level competition.


But now, Martinez is highly ranked and he thinks that a fight may happen soon against either the super champion Golovkin, or the WBA's "regular" regular champion Erislandy Lara.

“I aim to fight Gennady Golovkin”, Martinez said. “Maybe my manager will aim at Lara. But I know that a fight with Lara might be super boring. Lara gets on his bike and dances around you, moving and moving, so it would be an ugly fight. With Golovkin, I think it would be a nice fight to see, even if he can break me into pieces, or not”.

Actually, Martinez bets on him to give a good fight against Golovkin.

“It is complete madness, I know, but I have all the faith in me that I can give an extraordinary fight against Golovkin”, Martinez said. “And I need to (fight at a great level), because If I don’t, I will die or he will kill me. With Golovkin, there is a good match of styles, I think we could give a great fight. I need to perform at an extraordinary level to win it. I have all the faith in me, and I know it’s crazy, because if I don’t, Golovkin will kill me and destroy me”.

Martinez is aware of his age. He is 47, but his potential opponents will also be above 40 when the time comes for the fight. In April, Erislandy Lara will turn 40 years old, and Gennady Golovkin will be 41.


“I am eight years older than Lara, and almost the same as Golovkin”, Martinez explained. “I will turn 48 years old in February, seven more than Golovkin”.

But the Argentinian feels that age will not be a key factor in a potential fight with Golovkin or Lara.

“When two champions face each other, or a champion with a mandatory challenger, there is little difference between them”, Martinez said. “What will make a difference is the brain, not the age. It won’t even be physical fitness, because we all have a great condition at the required level for a world champion. Both Golovkin, Lara and me, if we fight each other, we will be at a very high level from a physical standpoint. But (the difference) is the head, who has a better tactic and strategy, and who has a better rest the last week before the fight”.

Martinez accepts that his level of opposition since his return to boxing has been very low, and that puts him a lower level than Golovkin or Lara.

“I’m still not at the level of Golovkin or Lara, for now," Martinez conceded. “Because the level of opposition that I have had is inferior, and sometimes very inferior. But I needed contact with the ring, with the ropes, the referee. I needed friction, I needed an opponent attacking me, punching me, aiming to really hurt me. That is what I needed, and I know that I’m progressing and evolving by leaps and bounds."


Sergio is aware that because of his current WBA ranking the opportunity for a world title can come at any moment. But he is also aware that it could be delayed until 2024, and by then, he will be 49 years old.

“I understand that by being ranked as third, the world title fight might come at any moment”, Martinez said. “I can tell you that in 2023, from July onwards, I will get a world title fight. March 2024 at the latest. By then, I will be 49 years old. But well, Bernard Hopkins fought until 51, and he won his last fight at 50”.
Sounds like Sergio is having one of those mysterious return to youth resurgences.
Duran seemed to have an almost "Fully return of his former glory" in 1997, at 46, when he had those two strong showings against the 30 year old Jorge Castro, who himself had over 100 pro bouts by that time.
Carlos Palomino made a brief return to pro boxing at the age of 47. He won the bout too, and against a decent opponent.
Even boxer turned actor turned back to boxer, Mickey Rourke continued having pro bouts well into his 40's.
Larry Holmes at 52 versus Butterbean. And Saoul Mamby fought his last pro bout at 61.
Jack Johnson supposedly had an almost full fledged return to youth performance, in a particular sparring session, when he was well into his 50's. Late 50's.
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rourke is a bit misplaced next to palomino, duran and Holmes. ever saw one of his 'fights'?

he's a really great actor though, problem is you can't act professional boxing.


I'm sure he's a fighter at heart and
as much as he wants it to be true that he was a couple fights away from a title shot, it never would've happened, cause he simply can't box for shit.
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Perseus wrote: 27 Dec 2022, 22:56 GGG vs Martinez is not going to happen.
This is just an old man trying to talk his way into a payday.
True. Payday, payday!
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Mexi-Box wrote: 28 Dec 2022, 04:38
wrighty wrote: 25 Dec 2022, 13:11 He's got nothing to prove. He lost to Cotto as his body practically fell apart. He should just enjoy life.
No it wasn't. Cotto is an elite fighter, Martinez is not. That's all there is to it. Martinez fought a weak as hell ,Euro-league MW division. Cotto showed everyone that there is levels to this.
Yeah but also Martinez was a crippled fighter and past of his prime. Martinez who beat P.W was a better version of fighter.
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