BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Ajagba vs. Shaw

[Ruthless-RKO]

The vote is over.

No Change.

Current ranking:
Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 21.01.2023 vs. Jack Massey - 20(11) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #51)

8. Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Frank Sanchez - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 27.01.2023 vs. Helaman Olguin - 9(4) 4(3) 1 - (BoxRec's #242)

13. Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

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Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

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[Ruthless-RKO]

Get a load of Wallin's next fight next weekend.

If that's just a 'dusting off the cobwebs' fight and he's getting AJ in April/May, then fair enough..

But I can't see him staying in these rankings with these fights.

[cpx2]

Get a load of Wallin's next fight next weekend.

If that's just a 'dusting off the cobwebs' fight and he's getting AJ in April/May, then fair enough..

But I can't see him staying in these rankings with these fights.

I was about to come in and say Wallin is fighting an absolute can, surely we need to get rid of him after that fight (irrespective of the result, unless it's an absolutely decimating combination KO in the first or something ) and then he can be voted back in after a fight of any significance?

[gregregegg]

Get a load of Wallin's next fight next weekend.

If that's just a 'dusting off the cobwebs' fight and he's getting AJ in April/May, then fair enough..

But I can't see him staying in these rankings with these fights.

It’s unreal how bad his reaume is and how high his ranking is.

The guy he is fighting got knocked out in a round by a low level journeyman.

[pound per pound]

Current ranking:
Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 21.01.2023 vs. Jack Massey - 20(11) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #52)

8. Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Frank Sanchez - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How does Ajagba scoring a boring decision over Shaw affect our top 15 rankings?

No change. Both me are far form the top 15. Cross Shaw off the prospect top 15 list for good. This forum like the old heavies a bit too much, and does not factor in defeats enough.

[pound per pound]

Current ranking:
Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 21.01.2023 vs. Jack Massey - 20(11) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #52)

8. Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Frank Sanchez - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How does Ajagba scoring a boring decision over Shaw affect our top 15 rankings?

No change. Both me are far form the top 15. Cross Shaw off the prospect top 15 list for good. This forum like the old heavies a bit too much, and does not factor in defeats enough.

[joshj909]

Get a load of Wallin's next fight next weekend.

If that's just a 'dusting off the cobwebs' fight and he's getting AJ in April/May, then fair enough..

But I can't see him staying in these rankings with these fights.

He's definitely out for me next week. I don't think I voted him in in the first place as he's always been the anomaly in trying to fit guys in the 10-15 positions. Never deserved it.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Get a load of Wallin's next fight next weekend.

If that's just a 'dusting off the cobwebs' fight and he's getting AJ in April/May, then fair enough..

But I can't see him staying in these rankings with these fights.

He's definitely out for me next week. I don't think I voted him in in the first place as he's always been the anomaly in trying to fit guys in the 10-15 positions. Never deserved it.

Yeh, as i said, if he's just dusting off cobwebs before a possible AJ fight, then fair enough, but he's taking the piss..

[joshj909]

Get a load of Wallin's next fight next weekend.

If that's just a 'dusting off the cobwebs' fight and he's getting AJ in April/May, then fair enough..

But I can't see him staying in these rankings with these fights.

He's definitely out for me next week. I don't think I voted him in in the first place as he's always been the anomaly in trying to fit guys in the 10-15 positions. Never deserved it.

Yeh, as i said, if he's just dusting off cobwebs before a possible AJ fight, then fair enough, but he's taking the piss..

I'd be disappointed if AJ needs Franklin as a warm up to face Wallin. Wallin should be the warm up. Wallin also needs to realise that he can't sit on his ass waiting to be gifted a big money fight like he got against Fury otherwise he will waste his career away with little to show for it.

I think I'd pick Makhmudov to replace him. There aren't really any other options. Zhang is arguably if people think he beat Hrgovic. Efe has a small argument. Yoka could make it if he beats Takam.

[Ruthless-RKO]

He's definitely out for me next week. I don't think I voted him in in the first place as he's always been the anomaly in trying to fit guys in the 10-15 positions. Never deserved it.

Yeh, as i said, if he's just dusting off cobwebs before a possible AJ fight, then fair enough, but he's taking the piss..

I'd be disappointed if AJ needs Franklin as a warm up to face Wallin. Wallin should be the warm up. Wallin also needs to realise that he can't sit on his ass waiting to be gifted a big money fight like he got against Fury otherwise he will waste his career away with little to show for it.

I think I'd pick Makhmudov to replace him. There aren't really any other options. Zhang is arguably if people think he beat Hrgovic. Efe has a small argument. Yoka could make it if he beats Takam.

I meant this being a warm up for Wallin, cus he might get the AJ fight in April.

I do doubt it though.

Wallin needs to leave Salita. He’s done nothing for him.

[joshj909]

This is a fun but short fight. Zhang has about 3 rounds to KO Joyce because there's no chance he wins after that. Joyce could also break him down within the first minute aswell. I'd favour Joyce about 80:20.

[pound per pound]

Joyce vs Zhang is an interesting match up between old men. You seldom say that. Okay, this is a good fight.

[joshj909]

Looks like this is what Wallin is holding out for.

[CMCanavessi]

Joyce vs Zhang is an interesting match up between old men. You seldom say that. Okay, this is a good fight.

If Joyce wins, he goes straight to number 3.

[joshj909]

Looks like we now have these in the works or rumoured:
- Usyk/Fury
- Joshua/Franklin
- Whyte/Wallin
- Joyce/Zhang
- Bakole/Hunter
- Yoka/Takam
- Ruiz/Wilder
- Ruiz/Hrgovic

[CMCanavessi]

Looks like we now have these in the works or rumoured:
- Usyk/Fury
- Joshua/Franklin
- Whyte/Wallin
- Joyce/Zhang
- Bakole/Hunter
- Yoka/Takam
- Ruiz/Wilder
- Ruiz/Hrgovic

I'll be happy if 4 of those 8 fights happen, but I even doubt that.

[KiwiRider]

Looks like we now have these in the works or rumoured:
- Usyk/Fury
- Joshua/Franklin
- Whyte/Wallin
- Joyce/Zhang
- Bakole/Hunter
- Yoka/Takam
- Ruiz/Wilder
- Ruiz/Hrgovic

Joseph Parker is fighting this weekend in England against Jack Massey.
Not that it greatly matters - unless Parker loses, thrn he has to drop and depending on how Jack wins- he could enter the top #15

[gregregegg]

This is a fun but short fight. Zhang has about 3 rounds to KO Joyce because there's no chance he wins after that. Joyce could also break him down within the first minute aswell. I'd favour Joyce about 80:20.

This is an epic fight. I think joe is too good but he is very easy to hit and zhang fuking whacks so it’s a live fight.

Joyce would be wise to just stay on his jab, but that’s not who he is. Could be a sneaky 550lb war…

[tiny_acres]

Looks like we now have these in the works or rumoured:
- Usyk/Fury
- Joshua/Franklin
- Whyte/Wallin
- Joyce/Zhang
- Bakole/Hunter
- Yoka/Takam
- Ruiz/Wilder
- Ruiz/Hrgovic

Joseph Parker is fighting this weekend in England against Jack Massey.
Not that it greatly matters - unless Parker loses, thrn he has to drop and depending on how Jack wins- he could enter the top #15

Massey could win this fight convincingly and there is no way I would put him in the top 15.
Not even on the radar

[CMCanavessi]

Parker should go down...

[gregregegg]

Parker should go down...

Im pro going down on a poor preformance. but he only lost a couple rounds to an awkward decent (ish) guy. and due to whats going on bellow him i personal dont think you can drop him..

whytes coming off a few bad preformances (probably lost to franklin, showed nothing vs fury, beat a covid ridden pov, got sparked by a pre covid but 40 year old pov)

bakole hardly fights.

ortiz has been looking like i could chin him as of late. just his opponents have also been looking poor..

ottos booking in vs guys outside the top 200 (he has actualy never beaten anyone that is currently in boxrecs top 100)....

[KiwiRider]

Parker should go down...

Im pro going down on a poor preformance. but he only lost a couple rounds to an awkward decent (ish) guy. and due to whats going on bellow him i personal dont think you can drop him..

whytes coming off a few bad preformances (probably lost to franklin, showed nothing vs fury, beat a covid ridden pov, got sparked by a pre covid but 40 year old pov)

bakole hardly fights.

ortiz has been looking like i could chin him as of late. just his opponents have also been looking poor..

ottos booking in vs guys outside the top 200 (he has actualy never beaten anyone that is currently in boxrecs top 100)....

Some good points.
The arse end of the top #15 is pretty easy pickings. Some guys like Ortiz, Chisora and Pulev are so close to being retired, they practically fight in dressing gowns and slippers. Lord only knows who we will replace them with...