Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

Who wins?

Poll ended at 09 Mar 2023, 12:47

Spence - Decision
8
31%
Spence - T/KO
14
54%
DRAW
1
4%
Thurman - T/KO
1
4%
Thurman - Decision
2
8%
 
Total votes: 26

Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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IKSRTFO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 19:54
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Jan 2023, 14:48
gilgamesh wrote: 11 Jan 2023, 14:01

I don't recall any of Mayweather's fights where he was defending belts from 2 weight classes in the same fight.
It’s says so on BoxRec
:lol:

So incorrect. On BoxRec, it says "super world welterweight", which is different from "world super welterweight. He wasn't fighting for a super version of the WBA title just like the regular title.
Not talking about the WBA.

It says in the rematch there was 3 belts on the line.

WBA Super World Welter
WBC World Welter
WBC World Super Welte

That’s 154 isn’t it?

Or are you saying BoxRec is wrong and the belt wasn’t actually at stake?
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 21:08
IKSRTFO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 19:54
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Jan 2023, 14:48

It’s says so on BoxRec
:lol:

So incorrect. On BoxRec, it says "super world welterweight", which is different from "world super welterweight. He wasn't fighting for a super version of the WBA title just like the regular title.
Not talking about the WBA.

It says in the rematch there was 3 belts on the line.

WBA Super World Welter
WBC World Welter
WBC World Super Welte

That’s 154 isn’t it?

Or are you saying BoxRec is wrong and the belt wasn’t actually at stake?
I would wager almost any money that there was no World Welter belt on the line. Boxrec needs to correct that. Super Welter/Jr Middle only. Imagine what that would open up. Canelo could put his 4 belts up vs Bivol at 175. Not happening.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Bandog wrote: 16 Jan 2023, 10:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 21:08
IKSRTFO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 19:54

:lol:

So incorrect. On BoxRec, it says "super world welterweight", which is different from "world super welterweight. He wasn't fighting for a super version of the WBA title just like the regular title.
Not talking about the WBA.

It says in the rematch there was 3 belts on the line.

WBA Super World Welter
WBC World Welter
WBC World Super Welte

That’s 154 isn’t it?

Or are you saying BoxRec is wrong and the belt wasn’t actually at stake?
I would wager almost any money that there was no World Welter belt on the line. Boxrec needs to correct that. Super Welter/Jr Middle only. Imagine what that would open up. Canelo could put his 4 belts up vs Bivol at 175. Not happening.
He can’t in this scenario. They both will be making a 175 limit. Which is above the belt limit.

With Mayweather-Maidana, both made 147. The welterweight limit and technically weighed below the 154 limit.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Jan 2023, 10:59
Bandog wrote: 16 Jan 2023, 10:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 21:08

Not talking about the WBA.

It says in the rematch there was 3 belts on the line.

WBA Super World Welter
WBC World Welter
WBC World Super Welte

That’s 154 isn’t it?

Or are you saying BoxRec is wrong and the belt wasn’t actually at stake?
I would wager almost any money that there was no World Welter belt on the line. Boxrec needs to correct that. Super Welter/Jr Middle only. Imagine what that would open up. Canelo could put his 4 belts up vs Bivol at 175. Not happening.
He can’t in this scenario. They both will be making a 175 limit. Which is above the belt limit.

With Mayweather-Maidana, both made 147. The welterweight limit and technically weighed below the 154 limit.
Agreed. My mistake. I thought it was being said differently, a welter belt could be put up while fighting at 154.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 21:08
IKSRTFO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 19:54
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Jan 2023, 14:48

It’s says so on BoxRec
:lol:

So incorrect. On BoxRec, it says "super world welterweight", which is different from "world super welterweight. He wasn't fighting for a super version of the WBA title just like the regular title.
Not talking about the WBA.

It says in the rematch there was 3 belts on the line.

WBA Super World Welter
WBC World Welter
WBC World Super Welte

That’s 154 isn’t it?

Or are you saying BoxRec is wrong and the belt wasn’t actually at stake?
Boxrec is wrong.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_May ... os_Maidana

If the 154 belts were on the line, they would've made it a big deal in the telecast.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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IKSRTFO wrote: 21 Jan 2023, 23:37
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 21:08
IKSRTFO wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 19:54

:lol:

So incorrect. On BoxRec, it says "super world welterweight", which is different from "world super welterweight. He wasn't fighting for a super version of the WBA title just like the regular title.
Not talking about the WBA.

It says in the rematch there was 3 belts on the line.

WBA Super World Welter
WBC World Welter
WBC World Super Welte

That’s 154 isn’t it?

Or are you saying BoxRec is wrong and the belt wasn’t actually at stake?
Boxrec is wrong.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_May ... os_Maidana

If the 154 belts were on the line, they would've made it a big deal in the telecast.
That video is not the rematch. That’s their first bout.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Here’s an article. Espn

https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/i ... na-rematch

Clearly states he retained the 154 belt.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Eimantas Stanionis On Spence vs. Thurman: "I Think Spence Is Going To Beat Him Down"

“I think Spence is going to beat him down,” said Stanionis to BS.com. “This inactivity plays a role and the age. He was very inactive.”

“I see the stoppage like late.”
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Curious, does anyone know if Canelo fights Bivol at 168, it could be for all Canelo's belts PLUS Bivol's 175 belt? I would assume so.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Bandog wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 19:12 Curious, does anyone know if Canelo fights Bivol at 168, it could be for all Canelo's belts PLUS Bivol's 175 belt? I would assume so.
What’s it got to do with this fight?
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dude can't get dat cinnamon off his mind :lol:
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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When someone votes Thurman KO, you know it is not an opinion, its just taking the piss :lol:
This fight, well I can't think of anything positive about it.
To me it seems 90/10 or less.
What is the point of that?
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 20:16
Bandog wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 19:12 Curious, does anyone know if Canelo fights Bivol at 168, it could be for all Canelo's belts PLUS Bivol's 175 belt? I would assume so.
What’s it got to do with this fight?
The same non-topic conversation you were going on about regarding the belts. What does Floyd vs Maidana have to do with this fight?
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Bandog wrote: 31 Jan 2023, 17:44
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 20:16
Bandog wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 19:12 Curious, does anyone know if Canelo fights Bivol at 168, it could be for all Canelo's belts PLUS Bivol's 175 belt? I would assume so.
What’s it got to do with this fight?
The same non-topic conversation you were going on about regarding the belts. What does Floyd vs Maidana have to do with this fight?
It was to do with this thread. We was discussing if the belts would be on the line like it was for May-Maidana.

I just got the weight wrong.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Jaron Ennis Believes That Errol Spence Is Likely To Stop Keith Thurman

As an up-and-coming welterweight prospect, Errol Spence Jr. pleaded with Keith Thurman to take him on. But, despite his persistent poking and prodding, the former unified champion openly ignored Spence. Even as the powerful southpaw captured his first world title, Thurman showed little to no interest in facing him.

Although he believes that Thurman still has a bit left in the tank, he surmises that Spence will be a bit too much.

“Thurman not bad or nothing, he can still fight, he can move,” said Ennis to spam.com. “It ain’t gonna be easy but I think the pressure. I think Errol might stop him.”

After pummeling Yordenis Ugas in April of 2022, Spence attempted to hammer out a deal with fellow champion, Terence Crawford. But, with talks stalling in the 11th hour, both sides walked away from the negotiating table. Thurman though, won’t fulminate over Spence’s failure to deliver an undisputed bout against Crawford.

While he’s been plagued by injuries and long stints of inactivity, Thurman did end a near three-year layoff by outpointing Mario Barrios. With well over a decade of experience underneath his belt, Thurman has shown to have a rock-solid chin. Still, regardless of his toughness, Ennis simply believes that Spence has the sort of power that will put Thurman out of his misery at some point during their showdown.

“I think Errol might stop him in the late rounds. He’s durable but I think Errol can possibly get him.”
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Spence will do anything to avoid Crawford.
At 154, he will get retired
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Mar 2023, 13:46
Absolutely no doubt in my mind they're waiting for the Crawford-Rocha announcement to claim Terence ducked ... even a catchweight bout with Thurman will look good to the casuals in comparison :lol:
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