Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
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Ambling Alp II
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Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
Stealing this from Keithmoon, who started threads for other weight classes.
This should be interesting.
This should be interesting.
Re: Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
I don't really have time to research this in depth right now, but I'd think the names to look into would be Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Mayweather.
I'm sure there's other guys who'd have some marquee wins. This has often been a talent rich division throughout Boxing history.
I'm sure there's other guys who'd have some marquee wins. This has often been a talent rich division throughout Boxing history.
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Re: Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
SRL gotta be up there, Benitez (38-0-1), Duran (72-1) and Hearns (32-0) and stopped all three.
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Re: Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
Kid Gavilan
Ike Williams (twice)
Carmen Basilio
Billy Graham (twice)
Ike Williams (twice)
Carmen Basilio
Billy Graham (twice)
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Re: Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
You can't top Leonard's - Benitez, Duran and Hearns.
Robinson is close - Gavilan, LaMotta, and probably Zivic.
Gavilan's win over Williams doesn't quite belong there. Williams was small for a welter and never beat any welterweight worth mentioning. Obviously, Graham and Basilio are major wins.
Armstrong is worth a shout - Ross, Arizmendi, and Garcia.
Robinson is close - Gavilan, LaMotta, and probably Zivic.
Gavilan's win over Williams doesn't quite belong there. Williams was small for a welter and never beat any welterweight worth mentioning. Obviously, Graham and Basilio are major wins.
Armstrong is worth a shout - Ross, Arizmendi, and Garcia.
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Disagree on Money, but the rest is spot on.gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 15:28 I don't really have time to research this in depth right now, but I'd think the names to look into would be Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Mayweather.
I'm sure there's other guys who'd have some marquee wins. This has often been a talent rich division throughout Boxing history.
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How about Barbados Joe walcott for draws:
Twice with Sam Langford
once with Joe Gans
And Like 50 fights with Young Peter Jackson.
Twice with Sam Langford
once with Joe Gans
And Like 50 fights with Young Peter Jackson.
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Burley beat Holman Williams, Cocoa Kid, Zivic.
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Re: Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
Jimmy McLarnin beat at Welterweight:
Benny Leonard
Young Corbett III
Barney Ross
Tony Canzoneri
Lou Ambers
Benny Leonard
Young Corbett III
Barney Ross
Tony Canzoneri
Lou Ambers
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Re: Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
Floyd Mayweather, Jr beat at Welterweight:
Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez
Zab Judah
Shane Mosley
Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez
Zab Judah
Shane Mosley
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Sounds exhaustive enough.Controversial wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 15:36 SRL gotta be up there, Benitez (38-0-1), Duran (72-1) and Hearns (32-0) and stopped all three.
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I wasn't necessarily implying his 3 best wins would stack up with the others, just saying we might oughta mention his 3 biggest wins on account of he's such a big name in modern times.oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 18:01Disagree on Money, but the rest is spot on.gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 15:28 I don't really have time to research this in depth right now, but I'd think the names to look into would be Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Mayweather.
I'm sure there's other guys who'd have some marquee wins. This has often been a talent rich division throughout Boxing history.![]()
For him I suppose it'd be Pac, Mosley and Maidana I guess?
Hatton was more decorated, but I'd say Maidana was a better and more dangerous Welterweight. Juan Manuel Marquez could be argued as being the #3 guy too.
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De la Hoya beat Pernell, JCC and Camacho. JCC and Camacho were past it, but he also beat Carr and Quartey and was robbed against Tito.
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Carr, Quartey were nice wins and as you mention he should have had Trinidad. Whittaker was not in his prime but still had something left. Glad that you pointed out that other guys past; we need to take that into consideration when doing this.
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People already mentioned Ray Leonard and De La Hoya so I’ll throw in a sleeper pick:Marlon Starling. He has wins over an undefeated Simon Brown(21-0, 15 KO’s), an undefeated Mark Breland(18-0, 12 KO’s), and won the lineal welterweight title in a very dominant performance against a prime Lloyd Honeyghan(33-1, 22 KO’s).
Really underrated fighter IMO, no idea how he’s not in the hall of fame, or even on the ballot.
Really underrated fighter IMO, no idea how he’s not in the hall of fame, or even on the ballot.
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Good shout, I used to like watching Starling, great fighter and as you say very underrated524046 wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 00:34 People already mentioned Ray Leonard and De La Hoya so I’ll throw in a sleeper pick:Marlon Starling. He has wins over an undefeated Simon Brown(21-0, 15 KO’s), an undefeated Mark Breland(18-0, 12 KO’s), and won the lineal welterweight title in a very dominant performance against a prime Lloyd Honeyghan(33-1, 22 KO’s).
Really underrated fighter IMO, no idea how he’s not in the hall of fame, or even on the ballot.
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Re: Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
Starling had excellent boxing skills. He was quick and was smart. Those are three nice wins.
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Watching several of Starling’s fights a few months ago was interesting because of his style. High-guard with very solid punching power, kinda reminded me of Arthur Abraham at his best, but with more finesse. Really would be interesting to see a fighter like that in the modern welterweight division.Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑01 Feb 2023, 20:27 Starling had excellent boxing skills. He was quick and was smart. Those are three nice wins.
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Re: Whcih boxer has the best three wins at welterweight ?
Leonard for me.
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Jack Britton
Kid Lewis
Mike O'Dowd
Benny Leonard
That takes some beating.
Kid Lewis
Mike O'Dowd
Benny Leonard
That takes some beating.
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Not a big SRL fan, but benitez; Hearns; and Duran is a pretty damn good top 3.
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It has to be Leonard. There are some good cases for a few guys for the second-best.
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Dave Holly has
Langford
Walcott
Blackburn
That's incredible.
Langford
Walcott
Blackburn
That's incredible.
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Those are an interesting three from a guy you don't hear much about. 
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