Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 May 2024, 20:15

Fury - Decision
66
27%
Fury - T/KO
36
15%
DRAW
16
7%
Usyk - T/KO
23
10%
Usyk - Decision
100
41%
 
Total votes: 241

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big lennox wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 10:21
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 10:07
big lennox wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 10:01 In another interview, Uysk's promoter said:

*We have agreed terms for Saudi Arabia

*We have agreed terms for a Wembley fight

*All the TV network deals have been agreed.

*Fury's promoters are keen. We are all just waiting on Fury.
George Warren said things are looking good when he was asked at the end of Saturday nights broadcast.

He expect big news soon. But gave no timescales.
According to Fury, at the same show, he is in limbo.
I’d believe George over Fury any day..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 10:47
big lennox wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 10:21
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 10:07

George Warren said things are looking good when he was asked at the end of Saturday nights broadcast.

He expect big news soon. But gave no timescales.
According to Fury, at the same show, he is in limbo.
I’d believe George over Fury any day..
Think I'd believe just about anyone over Tyson, except maybe John. Wilder gave it a good go but he was just too dumb to realise what was going on.
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Bets on the next fight being against a marketable ‘plodder’ on PPV? Zhang Zhilei might fit the bill. Not forgetting the dire Ngannou idea for June/July, which is even lower risk.
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According to John Fury, the fight hasnt been made because Tyson is the bigger ticket seller and therefore should have the lion's share of the purse...

That old chestnut: the classic price oneself out of a contest routine #bottlejob.

I think Fury is going to lose a lot of fans(not the thickies, obvs). Especially as he says he doesn’t care about money now. It’s either ego, delusion or ducking the fight.

Big Doofus has gone very quiet.

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big lennox wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 08:34 According to John Fury, the fight hasnt been made because Tyson is the bigger ticket seller and therefore should have the lion's share of the purse...

That old chestnut: the classic price oneself out of a contest routine #bottlejob.

I think Fury is going to lose a lot of fans(not the thickies, obvs). Especially as he says he doesn’t care about money now. It’s either ego, delusion or ducking the fight.

Big Doofus has gone very quiet.

Didn't they agree to negotiate individually with Saudi to avoid this issue? They are pathetic.
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Much as I like John Fury I'm not so sure he really is in the loop about anything. I keep seeing Tyson Fury saying over and over, basically, that he is not commenting on the matter because as far as he's concerned until there is a venue and everything is sorted and both signatures are on paper there is no fight to be talked about.

Tyson Fury has said on many occasions it's not his job but Warren's job or Bob Arum's job to make all of this stuff happen. Tyson Fury has already said the other day or so that quite frankly he don't care at this stage in his career who the opponent is he just wants to fight and if it is the Ukrainian then great but if it's not then oh well. That's his mindset, and basically has been his mindset since he knocked out Wilder for the last time.

I think there is a part of Tyson Fury that wants to defeat Usyk, just to stick it to every critic and hater, and to say without question he was the Undisputed champion. But I also think there's a part of him that don't really love boxing as much as he used to and there's also a part of him that finds it difficult to really get amped up for the Ukrainian because Tyson Fury honestly views him as no real challenge because the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

I'd love to see the fight happen that way once Tyson Fury won there literally would be no sense in him having to fight anymore, because he will have beaten the man who beat Joshua twice and since Joshua already defeated Andy Ruiz there would be no point in fighting basically everyone else who is left in the division because you could very easily make the argument that Tyson Fury would have beaten them all without any problems or issues.

In a perfect world he would fight the Ukrainian and then he would fight Joshua and then he would fight Ruiz and then he would fight Joyce. But if he defeated the Ukrainian that's all he would really have to do to put a rubber stamp on his career as being the best man of his time frame.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 08:56 Much as I like John Fury I'm not so sure he really is in the loop about anything. I keep seeing Tyson Fury saying over and over, basically, that he is not commenting on the matter because as far as he's concerned until there is a venue and everything is sorted and both signatures are on paper there is no fight to be talked about.

Tyson Fury has said on many occasions it's not his job but Warren's job or Bob Arum's job to make all of this stuff happen. Tyson Fury has already said the other day or so that quite frankly he don't care at this stage in his career who the opponent is he just wants to fight and if it is the Ukrainian then great but if it's not then oh well. That's his mindset, and basically has been his mindset since he knocked out Wilder for the last time.

I think there is a part of Tyson Fury that wants to defeat Usyk, just to stick it to every critic and hater, and to say without question he was the Undisputed champion. But I also think there's a part of him that don't really love boxing as much as he used to and there's also a part of him that finds it difficult to really get amped up for the Ukrainian because Tyson Fury honestly views him as no real challenge because the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

I'd love to see the fight happen that way once Tyson Fury won there literally would be no sense in him having to fight anymore, because he will have beaten the man who beat Joshua twice and since Joshua already defeated Andy Ruiz there would be no point in fighting basically everyone else who is left in the division because you could very easily make the argument that Tyson Fury would have beaten them all without any problems or issues.

In a perfect world he would fight the Ukrainian and then he would fight Joshua and then he would fight Ruiz and then he would fight Joyce. But if he defeated the Ukrainian that's all he would really have to do to put a rubber stamp on his career as being the best man of his time frame.
So, he can get amped up to box Chisora for a third time, but can't get amped up to fight Usyk for a unification match. Right ho.

It's funny that he has lost his mojo when it comes to Uysk and Joyce, who both may well beat him.

It certainly looks like he doesn't fancy it.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 08:56 I think there is a part of Tyson Fury that wants to defeat Usyk, just to stick it to every critic and hater, and to say without question he was the Undisputed champion. But I also think there's a part of him that don't really love boxing as much as he used to and there's also a part of him that finds it difficult to really get amped up for the Ukrainian because Tyson Fury honestly views him as no real challenge because the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.
Did you just say that Fury's wife is 6'3 and 15 and a half stone?
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joshj909 wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:14
HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 08:56 I think there is a part of Tyson Fury that wants to defeat Usyk, just to stick it to every critic and hater, and to say without question he was the Undisputed champion. But I also think there's a part of him that don't really love boxing as much as he used to and there's also a part of him that finds it difficult to really get amped up for the Ukrainian because Tyson Fury honestly views him as no real challenge because the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.
Did you just say that Fury's wife is 6'3 and 15 and a half stone?
I don't believe for one minute that the Ukrainian is actually 6 ft 3 (more like 6 ft 2) but I believe Paris Fury is 5 ft 11. That picture that the Ukrainian took by the pool showing himself more slender than ever makes him look awfully small. I would say he weighs maybe 40-45 lbs more than Fury's wife.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:29
joshj909 wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:14
HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 08:56 I think there is a part of Tyson Fury that wants to defeat Usyk, just to stick it to every critic and hater, and to say without question he was the Undisputed champion. But I also think there's a part of him that don't really love boxing as much as he used to and there's also a part of him that finds it difficult to really get amped up for the Ukrainian because Tyson Fury honestly views him as no real challenge because the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.
Did you just say that Fury's wife is 6'3 and 15 and a half stone?
I don't believe for one minute that the Ukrainian is actually 6 ft 3 (more like 6 ft 2) but I believe Paris Fury is 5 ft 11. That picture that the Ukrainian took by the pool showing himself more slender than ever makes him look awfully small. I would say he weighs maybe 40-45 lbs more than Fury's wife.
She's 5ft 4" and weighs 124lbs
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HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:29
joshj909 wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:14
HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 08:56 I think there is a part of Tyson Fury that wants to defeat Usyk, just to stick it to every critic and hater, and to say without question he was the Undisputed champion. But I also think there's a part of him that don't really love boxing as much as he used to and there's also a part of him that finds it difficult to really get amped up for the Ukrainian because Tyson Fury honestly views him as no real challenge because the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.
Did you just say that Fury's wife is 6'3 and 15 and a half stone?
I don't believe for one minute that the Ukrainian is actually 6 ft 3 (more like 6 ft 2) but I believe Paris Fury is 5 ft 11. That picture that the Ukrainian took by the pool showing himself more slender than ever makes him look awfully small. I would say he weighs maybe 40-45 lbs more than Fury's wife.
She does not look 5'11 and everywhere online says she's 5'4 or 5'5 while probably weighing well under 150lbs. For comparison, Usyk is 10 inches taller and 70 lbs heavier. Tyson Fury is listed as 6'9 (even though he looks shorter) which would make him 7 inches taller than Usyk and 50 lbs heavier.
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There's no way in hell that she is 5 ft 4 considering Tyson Fury is somewhere between 6 ft 8 and 6 ft 9. Even if she was wearing heels she has got to be somewhere between 5 ft 8 to 5 ft 11. She is basically a foot shorter than he is.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:41 Image

There's no way in hell that she is 5 ft 4 considering Tyson Fury is somewhere between 6 ft 8 and 6 ft 9. Even if she was wearing heels she has got to be somewhere between 5 ft 8 to 5 ft 11. She is basically a foot shorter than he is.
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She'll be wearing atleast 5 inch heels, maybe even 7 inch. Tyson is probably about 6'8.

Just accept that you bought into a Tyson bullshit quote that is absolutely gibberish.
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Ah well, if Paris Fury is really 5ft 8" and not 5ft 4" then there really is no point in Tyson fighting a unification fight against Usyk. I'm sure that'll appease all the fans when negotiations break down.
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:56 Ah well, if Paris Fury is really 5ft 8" and not 5ft 4" then there really is no point in Tyson fighting a unification fight against Usyk. I'm sure that'll appease all the fans when negotiations break down.
You have to be a certain height to fight him don't you?
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Even Wilder was 10 lbs lighter than Usyk in the first fight.
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joshj909 wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:54
HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 09:41 Image

There's no way in hell that she is 5 ft 4 considering Tyson Fury is somewhere between 6 ft 8 and 6 ft 9. Even if she was wearing heels she has got to be somewhere between 5 ft 8 to 5 ft 11. She is basically a foot shorter than he is.
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She'll be wearing atleast 5 inch heels, maybe even 7 inch. Tyson is probably about 6'8.

Just accept that you bought into a Tyson bullshit quote that is absolutely gibberish.
It's not gibberish because the man is only a few inches taller than Tyson Fury's wife. I don't think people really grasp the size differential here.

The hatred towards Tyson Fury on this forum is so bad that people will feel absolutely foolish when they see the two men standing looking at each other at the weigh-ins let alone the ring because every angle people have seen Fury and the Ukrainian so far has been uneven where they look closer in height than they really are.

Whether people want to admit it or not he's closer to Paris Fury's wife size than he is closer to Tyson Fury's size. He is going to look like an absolute rag doll in comparison when they do a proper face off.

The man is going to look every bit as small as Jack Dempsey did when he was in the ring with Jess Willard but the difference is Tyson Fury is no Jess Willard, and is taller and heavier than Willard.
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Holy shiet, where has this discussion gone?
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Henry 'Gypsy' Bobbins is correct. This utterly pointless unification fight between WBC champion, 'Gypsy King' Tyson Fury and former unified Cruiserweight and current WBA, IBF and WBO champion, Oleksandr Usyk, should never happen based purely on the height and weight comparison between Usyk and Fury's wife, Paris Fury.
As ever, a valid and succinct argument put forth by Henry 'Gypsy' Bobbins.
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A comparison between the Ukrainian and somebody 5'11 and somebody 6'9 as well as a closet door and a standard doorway. All I am pointing out is he is closer to her size than he is Tyson Fury's size.

Never said that the fight was meaningless in any way shape or form but that is how you people twist things. Then again this forum is guilty of people not recognizing reality since they like to believe almost unanimously that men can become women and women can become men so of course you're going to take absolutely no notice of size differentials.
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Henry 'Gypsy' Bobbins with some more valid and succinct points. An amazing showing.

God bless you all in the name of Jesus Christ Almighty.
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The Gratest wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:30 Henry 'Gypsy' Bobbins with some more valid and succinct points. An amazing showing.

God bless you all in the name of Jesus Christ Almighty.
I hope Fury wins and wins so badly that you can crawl off into a hole somewhere. Annoying shit. You're as bad as that mindless idiot Margaret Thatcher constantly trolling the forums.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:28 Image

A comparison between the Ukrainian and somebody 5'11 and somebody 6'9 as well as a closet door and a standard doorway. All I am pointing out is he is closer to her size than he is Tyson Fury's size.

Never said that the fight was meaningless in any way shape or form but that is how you people twist things. Then again this forum is guilty of people not recognizing reality since they like to believe almost unanimously that men can become women and women can become men so of course you're going to take absolutely no notice of size differentials.
You've based this on your made up fact that she's 5'11 :lol: what is a fact is that Usyk is the same size as or taller than both Chisora and Whyte and heavier than Wilder in the first fight. That's not including that he's taller and heavier than a number of Fury's opponents pre-drugs ban also. Add that Usyk is vastly more skilled and you have a legitimate fight. This is not a man Vs a woman, this is a heavyweight champ vs a heavyweight champ...
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joshj909 wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:32
HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:28 Image

A comparison between the Ukrainian and somebody 5'11 and somebody 6'9 as well as a closet door and a standard doorway. All I am pointing out is he is closer to her size than he is Tyson Fury's size.

Never said that the fight was meaningless in any way shape or form but that is how you people twist things. Then again this forum is guilty of people not recognizing reality since they like to believe almost unanimously that men can become women and women can become men so of course you're going to take absolutely no notice of size differentials.
You've based this on your made up fact that she's 5'11 :lol: what is a fact is that Usyk is the same size as or taller than both Chisora and Whyte and heavier than Wilder in the first fight. That's not including that he's taller and heavier than a number of Fury's opponents pre-drugs ban also. Add that Usyk is vastly more skilled and you have a legitimate fight. This is not a man Vs a woman, this is a heavyweight champ vs a heavyweight champ...
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If you honestly believe that looks like a woman who is 5'4 or 5 ft 8 you have got to be a piss poor judge of size considering she's wearing flats in that picture. Again the Ukrainian is closer to her size than he is closer to the heavyweight champion of the world's size.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:40
joshj909 wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:32
HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:28 Image

A comparison between the Ukrainian and somebody 5'11 and somebody 6'9 as well as a closet door and a standard doorway. All I am pointing out is he is closer to her size than he is Tyson Fury's size.

Never said that the fight was meaningless in any way shape or form but that is how you people twist things. Then again this forum is guilty of people not recognizing reality since they like to believe almost unanimously that men can become women and women can become men so of course you're going to take absolutely no notice of size differentials.
You've based this on your made up fact that she's 5'11 :lol: what is a fact is that Usyk is the same size as or taller than both Chisora and Whyte and heavier than Wilder in the first fight. That's not including that he's taller and heavier than a number of Fury's opponents pre-drugs ban also. Add that Usyk is vastly more skilled and you have a legitimate fight. This is not a man Vs a woman, this is a heavyweight champ vs a heavyweight champ...
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If you honestly believe that looks like a woman who is 5'4 or 5 ft 8 you have got to be a piss poor judge of size considering she's wearing flats in that picture. Again the Ukrainian is closer to her size than he is closer to the heavyweight champion of the world's size.
She looks just over a foot shorter than him there and she's stood closer to the camera.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:32
The Gratest wrote: 01 Feb 2023, 10:30 Henry 'Gypsy' Bobbins with some more valid and succinct points. An amazing showing.

God bless you all in the name of Jesus Christ Almighty.
I hope Fury wins and wins so badly that you can crawl off into a hole somewhere. Annoying shit. You're as bad as that mindless idiot Margaret Thatcher constantly trolling the forums.
My word, that's not the word of God? I'm unsure what has brought this devil tongued outburst out?

Anyway, back on subject. Those beautiful colourful figures you posted, they were amazing. I took one look at them and immediately thought 'Oh, look what Henry 'Gypsy' Bobbins has now produced! This really does convince me that there is no way that 'Gypsy King' Tyson Fury can ever truly motivate himself to take on former Olympic Gold medallist, undisputed unified Cruiserweight champion and current WBA, IBF, and WBO heavyweight champion, Oleksandr Usyk, in one of the most important and anticipated unification fights in history. The man's a pipsqueak!'.

God bless you through these trouble times in the name of Jesus Christ Almighty!
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