Whatever happened to "Denver" Ed Martin ?

[mattdonnellon]

I have him dying at 59, need to check my records as to where I got this information.

[mattdonnellon]

Oakland Tribune, May 13, page 38.
"Martin, Edward (Denver)of 976, 35th Street. Loving husband of Mrs Etta Martin; brother of Lorgan Martin of Salt Lake and Mrs Mary Davies of Los Angeles. A native of Denver, Colo.Friends are invited to the funeral, Saturday, May 15th at 1 o clock p.m. from Hudson Funeral Home, 953 8th Street."

[Bob]

Here are a few additional fights for him...he was known as "Bob Armstrong" while he was in Denver and was handled by Bat Masterson:

12/20/97 - Mike Queenan - D4 in Elyria, CO
07/04/98 - "Mexican" Pete Everett - KO by 5 in Cripple Creek, CO
12/09/98 - "Mexican" Pete Everett - TKO 14 in Denver, CO
01/26/99 - Bob Clayton - TKO 2 in Denver, CO
05/05/99 - Bob Watkins - W 4 in Denver, CO

He was then summoned to NYC to fight the "real" Bob Armstrong of Chicago.

[Caractacus]

Oakland Tribune, May 13, page 38.
"Martin, Edward (Denver)of 976, 35th Street. Loving husband of Mrs Etta Martin; brother of Lorgan Martin of Salt Lake and Mrs Mary Davies of Los Angeles. A native of Denver, Colo.Friends are invited to the funeral, Saturday, May 15th at 1 o clock p.m. from Hudson Funeral Home, 953 8th Street."

please be sure to submit that to the Boxrec records dept..

[Ambling Alp II]

Here are a few additional fights for him...he was known as "Bob Armstrong" while he was in Denver and was handled by Bat Masterson:

12/20/97 - Mike Queenan - D4 in Elyria, CO
07/04/98 - "Mexican" Pete Everett - KO by 5 in Cripple Creek, CO
12/09/98 - "Mexican" Pete Everett - TKO 14 in Denver, CO
01/26/99 - Bob Clayton - TKO 2 in Denver, CO
05/05/99 - Bob Watkins - W 4 in Denver, CO

He was then summoned to NYC to fight the "real" Bob Armstrong of Chicago.

Interesting info.

[mattdonnellon]

Oakland Tribune, May 13, page 38.
"Martin, Edward (Denver)of 976, 35th Street. Loving husband of Mrs Etta Martin; brother of Lorgan Martin of Salt Lake and Mrs Mary Davies of Los Angeles. A native of Denver, Colo.Friends are invited to the funeral, Saturday, May 15th at 1 o clock p.m. from Hudson Funeral Home, 953 8th Street."

please be sure to submit that to the Boxrec records dept..

I'd be fulltime submitting stuff!

[Caractacus]

someone gotta do it dude.
but wasn"t there a thread a few years ago, that focused on "
Whatever Happened TO ?"
remember when we all tried to track down
whatever became of "Elmer"Violent" Ray" ?
( someone finally did)
Turkey Thompson still has not been found out what became of him
I think.

[writehooks]

FYI: On March 7, 1914, in what was billed as a contest for the vacant Canadian heavyweight title, “Denver” Ed Martin was knocked out in two rounds by British-born Tom Cowler in Steveston, B.C. (a suburb of Vancouver). Over the preceding two years, Tommy Burns, Carl Morris and Charlie Robinson had all claimed the Canadian crown, but all three subsequently vacated it without making a defense. Morris – a.k.a. “The Original White Hope” – staked his claim after knocking out Jack Keating (real name: Bob Williams) at Atlanta, Georgia on November 12, 1912, but it was not acknowledged because both fighters were Americans. In order to preserve some semblance of lineage, one of the Canadian Boxing Federation’s first acts after being incorporated in 1925 was to recognize all pre-1925 claimants as “legitimate” CBF titleholders. In the heavyweight ranks, that list included Burns, Morris, Robinson and Cowler, as well as Wat Adams, Arthur Pelkey, Soldier Jones and Jack Renault.
Contemporary newspaper accounts of the Cowler-Martin match refer to Martin as "the savvy colored veteran from Seattle."

[Chuck1052]

According to the California, U.S., Death Index 1905-1939 on the Ancestry.com website, one Edward Martin was born about 1878 and died on May 11, 1937 in Napa County, California.

There is an obituary for Edward Martin (Denver), a native of Denver, Colorado, in the May 13, 1937 edition of the Oakland Tribune.

Note- Napa State Hospital was founded in 1875. Could it be that Denver Ed Martin passed away in that hospital?

Billy Roche (not the well-known referee) managed Sam McVey when the latter lived in Oxnard, California. In addition, Roche managed Denver Ed Martin when the latter won a decision over McVey in a ten-round bout and lost by knockout in the second round to Jack Johnson, both bouts taking place at Hazard's Pavilion in Los Angeles during 1904. Roche was a resident of Oakland during the latter years of his life.

- Chuck Johnston

[Seamus]

Caractacus, you might want to try Ancestry.com, some amazing info gets dug up on there that sometimes gets past the official historians.

[Chuck1052]

Caractacus, you might want to try Ancestry.com, some amazing info gets dug up on there that sometimes gets past the official historians.

In fairness, I was thinking that Denver Ed Martin may have passed away in Alameda County, which is where Oakland is located. As a result, I didn't think about the possibility that he passed away in Napa County, which is why I was stumped for a number of years.

- Chuck Johnston

[mattdonnellon]

In July, 1900, Fred Fox, then manager of Martin, claimed the following wins for him; "Pete Everett(Mexican) in nine rounds, and since here (NewYork??)has defeated such local heavyweights as Scully, one round, Conroy, two rounds, C, two rounds and fought six rounds at Philadelphia with Bob Armstrong." I presume this to be the March 23 fight at the Industrial Hall which Fox claimed Martin had the better of.

[mattdonnellon]

Further claimed fights for Denver in the papers 28-29 August 1902.
Born March 26, 1878, Denver.
Mike Queenan KO 2
Tom King KO 6
Bob Clayton KO 2
Pete Everett KO 14
Charley Stevenson KO 14
Walter Johnson KO 7
Klondike KO 5
Tom Carey KO 2
Frank Scully KO 1
Jim Galvin KO 1
Yank Kenny KO 1
Earl Thompson KO 1
Bud Jackson KO 2
Ike Hayes KO 2
Fred Russell WF 10
Hank Griffin KO 7
Sandy Ferguson KO 5
Frank Childs WP6
Bob Armstrong WP15
Bob Armstrong D 6
Bob Armstrong lKO2
Pretty accurate from the first Armstrong fight on(LKO2)
The Frank Scully fight is the Frank Skelly one listed in Boxrec and if we add in the Frank Craig fights in the UK during that August and also Bob's listing of early fights mentioned in this threads and we are getting nearer to a fairly complete record for Martin.