The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 11:45
He has about as much say in it happening at Wembley as you or I. All he confirmed was it's now not happening in Saudi and that they didn't want it anyway (possibly due to one party's demands).
You have to hold AJ responsible for this. They invested a lot into his tepid performance against Ruiz and then Usyk, where, at least he tried but his disgraceful behaviour afterwards will not have gone unnoticed. All the publicity was bad. I don't blame them for being cautious although with two real pros we would be unlikely to see a repeat of last Augusts shame.
So Fury pulling out of the venue to face Usyk (who agreed all his side of the deal) because he can't agree a deal is all Joshua's fault? You are off your head
The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 11:45
He has about as much say in it happening at Wembley as you or I. All he confirmed was it's now not happening in Saudi and that they didn't want it anyway (possibly due to one party's demands).
You have to hold AJ responsible for this. They invested a lot into his tepid performance against Ruiz and then Usyk, where, at least he tried but his disgraceful behaviour afterwards will not have gone unnoticed. All the publicity was bad. I don't blame them for being cautious although with two real pros we would be unlikely to see a repeat of last Augusts shame.
So Fury pulling out of the venue to face Usyk (who agreed all his side of the deal) because he can't agree a deal is all Joshua's fault? You are off your head
The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 11:45
He has about as much say in it happening at Wembley as you or I. All he confirmed was it's now not happening in Saudi and that they didn't want it anyway (possibly due to one party's demands).
You have to hold AJ responsible for this. They invested a lot into his tepid performance against Ruiz and then Usyk, where, at least he tried but his disgraceful behaviour afterwards will not have gone unnoticed. All the publicity was bad. I don't blame them for being cautious although with two real pros we would be unlikely to see a repeat of last Augusts shame.
Yes Mickey, we know Mickey. Usyk being able to get a deal with the Saudi's, but the Saudi's not being able to meet Fury's demands is all Anthony Joshua's fault. You're quite right Mickey.
From the feedback i've seen, the people are very much blaming Fury for this and have turned against him. It'll hurt him to lose The People's Champion crown, but Usyk's now the man.
The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 12:43
From the feedback i've seen, the people are very much blaming Fury for this and have turned against him. It'll hurt him to lose The People's Champion crown, but Usyk's now the man.
Seen! I was at two shows this weekend and nobody even mentioned it.
The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 12:43
From the feedback i've seen, the people are very much blaming Fury for this and have turned against him. It'll hurt him to lose The People's Champion crown, but Usyk's now the man.
Seen! I was at two shows this weekend and nobody even mentioned it.
Don’t you find it a bit sad that the heavyweight championship has been devalued to the point where the general public (a) don’t really know who the champion is, and (b) don’t really care? Surely in the 90’s a powderpuff puncher like Usyk would have been churned around some rotation of Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis and been sent packing back to the Ukraine in double quick time? The way Fury is reacting it’s like he’s bigger than Godzilla in his mind.
The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 12:43
From the feedback i've seen, the people are very much blaming Fury for this and have turned against him. It'll hurt him to lose The People's Champion crown, but Usyk's now the man.
Seen! I was at two shows this weekend and nobody even mentioned it.
I know Mickey, we all know Mickey, but it's more than likely that you surround yourself with like-minded people in your 'All hail The Gypsy King!' bubble. So I wouldn't expect anything less from your good self.
The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 12:43
From the feedback i've seen, the people are very much blaming Fury for this and have turned against him. It'll hurt him to lose The People's Champion crown, but Usyk's now the man.
Seen! I was at two shows this weekend and nobody even mentioned it.
... never mentioned it to you would be more accurate.
The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 12:43
From the feedback i've seen, the people are very much blaming Fury for this and have turned against him. It'll hurt him to lose The People's Champion crown, but Usyk's now the man.
Seen! I was at two shows this weekend and nobody even mentioned it.
... never mentioned it to you would be more accurate.
Do you wonder why Mick?
Probably concentrating on the boxing in front of them, like me?
The Gratest wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 12:43
From the feedback i've seen, the people are very much blaming Fury for this and have turned against him. It'll hurt him to lose The People's Champion crown, but Usyk's now the man.
Seen! I was at two shows this weekend and nobody even mentioned it.
I know Mickey, we all know Mickey, but it's more than likely that you surround yourself with like-minded people in your 'All hail The Gypsy King!' bubble. So I wouldn't expect anything less from your good self.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 13:01
Seen! I was at two shows this weekend and nobody even mentioned it.
I know Mickey, we all know Mickey, but it's more than likely that you surround yourself with like-minded people in your 'All hail The Gypsy King!' bubble. So I wouldn't expect anything less from your good self.
Have you ever been to a show?
Yes I have. Amateur and pro.
Do you go to shows to specifally ask those around you who they think The People's Champion is?
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I know Mickey, we all know Mickey, but it's more than likely that you surround yourself with like-minded people in your 'All hail The Gypsy King!' bubble. So I wouldn't expect anything less from your good self.
Have you ever been to a show?
Yes I have. Amateur and pro.
Do you go to shows to specifally ask those around you who they think The People's Champion is?
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 14:15
Because he's a dirty PED cheat, Fury can't push the date back a few weeks. Looks like it's Charr or Wallin.
Charr? That was officially guaranteed by the experts on here for December! People were beyond certain.
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 14:15
Because he's a dirty PED cheat, Fury can't push the date back a few weeks. Looks like it's Charr or Wallin.
Charr? That was officially guaranteed by the experts on here for December! People were beyond certain.
Charr was sent a contract for the December fight. There's no reason they wouldn't offer it again. That's not me claiming to be an expert, it's common sense. If you want to defend Fury's cycling, that's your business, not mine.
Usyk has made a career out of fighting champions and contenders in their backyard, he'll fight anyone of that I've no doubt, he turned up to the Fury/Chisora 3 fight to hype up a fight with Fury and he's also been fairly vocal on social media calling Fury out, most importantly Usyk agreed his side of the deal with the Saudis
Fury on the other hand is in hiding and it seems he's pricing himself out and im not shocked in the slightest, he's a fool, the only time he ever interests me is when he's fighting and even then he loves mediocrity
