Conor Benn - What Next?

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Controversial wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 00:44 I still can’t understand if the team have all this evidence clearing him why not just post it publicly?
Obvious they don't have any , , Simple question is why hav'nt they released the b sample , or supplied an hair folicle ,, theres just gonna carry on with a liscence from Zambia or somewhere and fight in Saudi , for some sort of WBC belt and both him and Eddie will shout for that long he's innocent in a year or two he will get a public apology of King Charles , and Koogan will still be licking there bollocks
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coneye wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 04:10
Controversial wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 00:44 I still can’t understand if the team have all this evidence clearing him why not just post it publicly?
Obvious they don't have any , , Simple question is why hav'nt they released the b sample , or supplied an hair folicle ,, theres just gonna carry on with a liscence from Zambia or somewhere and fight in Saudi , for some sort of WBC belt and both him and Eddie will shout for that long he's innocent in a year or two he will get a public apology of King Charles , and Koogan will still be licking there bollocks
Yeah of course, so many holes in it all, follicle test the obvious thing to clear it all up.
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A year from now most people will have forgotten that he is a drugs cheat, same way that they did with Fury.
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leejonesjnr wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 04:37 A year from now most people will have forgotten that he is a drugs cheat, same way that they did with Fury.
I think if he'd been a little less vocal they might have done. More they might still remember as have even seen memes doing rounds in the casuals
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jtourettes wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 07:46
leejonesjnr wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 04:37 A year from now most people will have forgotten that he is a drugs cheat, same way that they did with Fury.
I think if he'd been a little less vocal they might have done. More they might still remember as have even seen memes doing rounds in the casuals
Fury was never found guilty in the court of public opinion and they managed to successfully sweep the aftermath under the carpet.
Benns case on the other has been in the spotlight much more.
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Controversial wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 00:44 I still can’t understand if the team have all this evidence clearing him why not just post it publicly?
It's almost like they don't have all that evidence!
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Coco wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 07:55
jtourettes wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 07:46
leejonesjnr wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 04:37 A year from now most people will have forgotten that he is a drugs cheat, same way that they did with Fury.
I think if he'd been a little less vocal they might have done. More they might still remember as have even seen memes doing rounds in the casuals
Fury was never found guilty in the court of public opinion and they managed to successfully sweep the aftermath under the carpet.
Benns case on the other has been in the spotlight much more.
He was not found guilty at all. They agreed the settlement as Tyson couldnt afford to waste years in court proving his innocense. Especially in his very fragile mental state at the time. It proved a very wise decision, he is one of the most popular sportsmen on the planet now. Benn is trying to prove his innocence and making things worse.
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Post by garethhop »

Difference with other fighters is that they had a body of work behind them which makes people willing to forgot/forgive/ignore etc.

Whereas Benn, whilst building fairly excitingly at one point, has achieved nothing. No British title, no big name victory, and the one big fight was blown by his failed drugs test.

The online reaction remains vastly negative.

People won't forget this and he is not the cash cow he was 12 months ago.
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Post by polecateddy »

mickey1975 wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 08:08
Coco wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 07:55
jtourettes wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 07:46

I think if he'd been a little less vocal they might have done. More they might still remember as have even seen memes doing rounds in the casuals
Fury was never found guilty in the court of public opinion and they managed to successfully sweep the aftermath under the carpet.
Benns case on the other has been in the spotlight much more.
He was not found guilty at all. They agreed the settlement as Tyson couldnt afford to waste years in court proving his innocense. Especially in his very fragile mental state at the time. It proved a very wise decision, he is one of the most popular sportsmen on the planet now. Benn is trying to prove his innocence and making things worse.
It’s probably the best Benn can hope for is making friends with the board, accepting a settlement and hoping to keep UKAD as outside of the process as possible. I think he’s probably looking at a 3-4 year ban from being licensed in the UK otherwise.
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mickey1975 wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 08:08
Coco wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 07:55
jtourettes wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 07:46

I think if he'd been a little less vocal they might have done. More they might still remember as have even seen memes doing rounds in the casuals
Fury was never found guilty in the court of public opinion and they managed to successfully sweep the aftermath under the carpet.
Benns case on the other has been in the spotlight much more.
He was not found guilty at all. They agreed the settlement as Tyson couldnt afford to waste years in court proving his innocense. Especially in his very fragile mental state at the time. It proved a very wise decision, he is one of the most popular sportsmen on the planet now. Benn is trying to prove his innocence and making things worse.
Is this another one of your "tongue in cheek comments" Mickey? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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a mate of mine is a high court judge who works sports cases. He's worked a lot of the big football ones, a bit like the Bosman one etc.

Anyway, he knows I follow boxing so he was telling me about the Fury case.

His work colleague replaced the original judge on the case, who said that one of Fury's family spent every day following him around. Lurking outside his garden, sitting on the wall, reading the paper, following him to the shop. Never said anything or approached him, just literally there, every single day reading the paper.

He said the case went like this:

So do you eat boar often?
No not really, once every so often
Which part do you eat?
You know, the bit most people eat
Which bit, precisely
The meat
So Mr Fury you don't eat the whole boar?
Of course not
So you don't eat the uncastrated testicle?
No
And tell us again how often you eat boar?
Every so often
If you had to put a figure on it
Once a month
Ok Mr Fury we put it to you that in order to achieve the levels required you would need to eat uncastrated boar testicles quite often, do you do that?
*confers with team* yes
And you eat it how often?
Once a month, or so
We put it to you Mr Fury that you would need to eat 360 testicles a month, is that how many times you eat them?
*confers with team* Yes

He said the whole case was a farce and that the only reason they did what they did was because it was costing millions and both sides wanted it over with.


Mr Benn, how many eggs do you eat?
"yes"
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Benn's team have missed a trick.

https://jedds.com/products/hen-fertility-tablets-medpet

Sure there's willing poulterer out there...
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orbtastic wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 08:48 a mate of mine is a high court judge who works sports cases. He's worked a lot of the big football ones, a bit like the Bosman one etc.

Anyway, he knows I follow boxing so he was telling me about the Fury case.

His work colleague replaced the original judge on the case, who said that one of Fury's family spent every day following him around. Lurking outside his garden, sitting on the wall, reading the paper, following him to the shop. Never said anything or approached him, just literally there, every single day reading the paper.

He said the case went like this:

So do you eat boar often?
No not really, once every so often
Which part do you eat?
You know, the bit most people eat
Which bit, precisely
The meat
So Mr Fury you don't eat the whole boar?
Of course not
So you don't eat the uncastrated testicle?
No
And tell us again how often you eat boar?
Every so often
If you had to put a figure on it
Once a month
Ok Mr Fury we put it to you that in order to achieve the levels required you would need to eat uncastrated boar testicles quite often, do you do that?
*confers with team* yes
And you eat it how often?
Once a month, or so
We put it to you Mr Fury that you would need to eat 360 testicles a month, is that how many times you eat them?
*confers with team* Yes

He said the whole case was a farce and that the only reason they did what they did was because it was costing millions and both sides wanted it over with.


Mr Benn, how many eggs do you eat?
"yes"
I’d think almost certainly Fury experimented with PEDS but made a hash of the process. To me the main difference is Benn has likely elevated his entire level with years of doping, whereas probably more or less Fury was naturally achieving his level of performance.
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leejonesjnr wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 04:37 A year from now most people will have forgotten that he is a drugs cheat, same way that they did with Fury.
Nah no way
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Although they’re both equally guilty of cheating, one crucial difference between Fury and Benn is that Tyson’s a very intelligent man whereas Conor’s a jumped up entitled little moron.

This emotional intelligence led Tyson to correctly realise that nobody likes a banged to rights cheat gobbing off constantly and so he quickly came up with a story, stuck to it and made very little comment on the matter. His concurrent playing of the mental health card was a tactical master stroke.

Conor, bless him, can’t read a room and his spoilt entitled upbringing and modest success as a boxer living off his father’s name fill him with an arrogance that isn’t counterbalanced by a capacity to think things through properly and so he moans and bitches and accuses and shouts and the public see right through this and condemn him.
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If he was white the criticism and abuse would not be so harsh.
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emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 09:46 If he was white the criticism and abuse would not be so harsh.
:lol: bollox
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emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 09:46 If he was white the criticism and abuse would not be so harsh.
I agree with that. BJS didn't get this level of abuse.
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Simon Jordan on Talk Sport says the 270 page documents makes no mention of eggs.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 11:27
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 09:46 If he was white the criticism and abuse would not be so harsh.
I agree with that. BJS didn't get this level of abuse.
but neither did the very black dill whyte, right :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 11:34
keithmoonhangover wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 11:27
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 09:46 If he was white the criticism and abuse would not be so harsh.
I agree with that. BJS didn't get this level of abuse.
but neither did the very black dill whyte, right :lol:
You told me I'm not allowed to mention Dillian Whyte, so I can't comment, sorry.
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emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 09:46 If he was white the criticism and abuse would not be so harsh.
What like how Liam Cameron was treated by the board?
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JamesPhilips wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 11:46
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 09:46 If he was white the criticism and abuse would not be so harsh.
What like how Liam Cameron was treated by the board?
Banned by UKAD for 4 years, which is a very common sentence they pass down. 2018 was a zero tolerable year for them, not sure what you’d get for trace amounts of cocaine in 2023. Nothing to do with the British Boxing Board of Control.
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JamesPhilips wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 11:46
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 09:46 If he was white the criticism and abuse would not be so harsh.
What like how Liam Cameron was treated by the board?
The fan and media reaction to Cameron was sympathetic.
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leejonesjnr wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 04:37 A year from now most people will have forgotten that he is a drugs cheat, same way that they did with Fury.
I disagree! If Fury's had been revealed a few days before the Klitschko fight it would have been massive news. Instead over time he was able to muddy the narrative about his time away from the ring with talk of cocaine, weight gain and depression.
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