Conor Benn - What Next?

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Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:41
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:29
smiling assassin wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 17:40

Get that chip off your shoulder
Easy for white boy to say.
Diĺlian Whyte go of a bit easy no? Race has fcuk all to do with it, a super fight got cancelled on fight week and he's not shut up about how it was everyone else's fault ever since, that's why he's getting a hard time.
Whyte got absolutely slaughtered for the same reason.
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emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:47
Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:41
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:29

Easy for white boy to say.
Diĺlian Whyte go of a bit easy no? Race has fcuk all to do with it, a super fight got cancelled on fight week and he's not shut up about how it was everyone else's fault ever since, that's why he's getting a hard time.
Whyte got absolutely slaughtered for the same reason.
Go on, tell Curtis he's a racist yer daft twatt.



Nobody likes a entitled rich kid who can't be a man and own up to his wrongdoings no matter what their ethnicity is.
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blanca wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 20:09
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:47
Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:41

Diĺlian Whyte go of a bit easy no? Race has fcuk all to do with it, a super fight got cancelled on fight week and he's not shut up about how it was everyone else's fault ever since, that's why he's getting a hard time.
Whyte got absolutely slaughtered for the same reason.
Go on, tell Curtis he's a racist yer daft twatt.



Nobody likes a entitled rich kid who can't be a man and own up to his wrongdoings no matter what their ethnicity is.
After watching some of that, I have concluded that Woodhouse is just another Internet sheep. He is mentioning 30 eggs a day but nobody even said that. Why did Woodhouse say it? Because he read it from strangers online and just ran with it. He did not check anything he just wants to be on the bandwagon. This alone renders his opinion completely useless.
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emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 20:50
blanca wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 20:09
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:47

Whyte got absolutely slaughtered for the same reason.
Go on, tell Curtis he's a racist yer daft twatt.



Nobody likes a entitled rich kid who can't be a man and own up to his wrongdoings no matter what their ethnicity is.
After watching some of that, I have concluded that Woodhouse is just another Internet sheep. He is mentioning 30 eggs a day but nobody even said that. Why did Woodhouse say it? Because he read it from strangers online and just ran with it. He did not check anything he just wants to be on the bandwagon. This alone renders his opinion completely useless.
Do you actually believe Conor? Or is it just a case of "he looks like me, I'll stickup for him. BLM!"
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Reason i would like to see him banned for 4 years is simple , he's a cocky insufferable ,cheating silver spooned fed , obnoxious entitled little twat , with a giant chip on his shoulder , his dads not much better , can still see in my mind the pair of them jumping around celebrating while his opponent was on the floor , after being put down by this steroid head cheating little fooker .

However i would,nt mind it if he fights again , BUT is vigourously tested to the extent that he cannot cheat anymore , but then only if he fights someone capable , not an ex champ who was always a light puncher and too old anyway , but a good solid well credentialed fighter with a punch , after all he thinks he's up there with the best give him the best , but give him a puncher who don't like cheats , also give him a ref who don't mind allowing cheats to get a battering , , give him a puncher who seriously wants to do him some damage , then see how his father likes it when the shoes on the other foot . I foooking dispice this twat
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coneye wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 21:40 Reason i would like to see him banned for 4 years is simple , he's a cocky insufferable ,cheating silver spooned fed , obnoxious entitled little twat , with a giant chip on his shoulder , his dads not much better , can still see in my mind the pair of them jumping around celebrating while his opponent was on the floor , after being put down by this steroid head cheating little fooker .

However i would,nt mind it if he fights again , BUT is vigourously tested to the extent that he cannot cheat anymore , but then only if he fights someone capable , not an ex champ who was always a light puncher and too old anyway , but a good solid well credentialed fighter with a punch , after all he thinks he's up there with the best give him the best , but give him a puncher who don't like cheats , also give him a ref who don't mind allowing cheats to get a battering , , give him a puncher who seriously wants to do him some damage , then see how his father likes it when the shoes on the other foot . I foooking dispice this twat
He's definitely lost a lot of fans in this whole thing. He could have actually gained fans if he handled it differently but came across as an absolute tosspot.
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So apparently at no point did they blame eggs being the issue, the WBC said this in their statement which Benn is unhappy with. All procedural issues with the testing. Still doesn’t explain how this happened twice.
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emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:28 He is right. He never mentioned the eggs. The internet sheep just ran with it.
So because he didn’t mention stuffing his face with eggs 24/7 that means he’s innocent?

The simple question is did he or did he not cheat by having substances in his system that he shouldn’t have.

Let’s never forget, or hide away from, that being the principle issue.
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"As part of its lengthy investigation, the WBC instructed its own experts to view my supplements and diet, and they concluded that egg contamination was the most likely cause." - That's not what is in the WBC statement.

"Those experts have seen this issue arise in elite athletes across other sports" - Which experts, and what are the examples of this

Those are just a couple of immediate discrepancies from his statement, and questions that arise.

I wonder how long Matchroom will stand by Benn for.
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fizzjambo wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 03:26
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 19:28 He is right. He never mentioned the eggs. The internet sheep just ran with it.
So because he didn’t mention stuffing his face with eggs 24/7 that means he’s innocent?

The simple question is did he or did he not cheat by having substances in his system that he shouldn’t have.

Let’s never forget, or hide away from, that being the principle issue.
He's the same colour as emallini, therefore he is innocent.

:doh:
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garethhop wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 03:57 "As part of its lengthy investigation, the WBC instructed its own experts to view my supplements and diet, and they concluded that egg contamination was the most likely cause." - That's not what is in the WBC statement.

"Those experts have seen this issue arise in elite athletes across other sports" - Which experts, and what are the examples of this

Those are just a couple of immediate discrepancies from his statement, and questions that arise.

I wonder how long Matchroom will stand by Benn for.
If Eddie was in his prime where he had untold world champs on his books, I think he would have walked away.
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The numbers the Benn v Eubank fight was doing and publicity it was getting he probably doesn’t want to give up on it just yet, despite just about everything possible going wrong for it.
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So what I’ve read is the WBC didn’t see any issue with the testing process however from what Benn is saying the testers done several things wrong including testing the same sample four times when it should only be tested once. So something not adding up with this argument.
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Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 08:39 So what I’ve read is the WBC didn’t see any issue with the testing process however from what Benn is saying the testers done several things wrong including testing the same sample four times when it should only be tested once. So something not adding up with this argument.
Ford Benn to make his story add up, he'll need a public statement from VADA backing up his claims.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:04
Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 08:39 So what I’ve read is the WBC didn’t see any issue with the testing process however from what Benn is saying the testers done several things wrong including testing the same sample four times when it should only be tested once. So something not adding up with this argument.
Ford Benn to make his story add up, he'll need a public statement from VADA backing up his claims.
Yep but I’m guessing he found this out from somewhere, presumably VADA, if not VADA then where has he got it from? If he’s making it up then VADA could sue him. None of it makes sense.
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Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:12
keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:04
Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 08:39 So what I’ve read is the WBC didn’t see any issue with the testing process however from what Benn is saying the testers done several things wrong including testing the same sample four times when it should only be tested once. So something not adding up with this argument.
Ford Benn to make his story add up, he'll need a public statement from VADA backing up his claims.
Yep but I’m guessing he found this out from somewhere, presumably VADA, if not VADA then where has he got it from? If he’s making it up then VADA could sue him. None of it makes sense.
VADA are bound by confidentiality restrictions. They have strict guidelines as to when and what they communicate. I can't see them making a public statement of any kind. If they admit that Connor's testing process was flawed, they would essentially be saying they are not fit for purpose.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:21
Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:12
keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:04

Ford Benn to make his story add up, he'll need a public statement from VADA backing up his claims.
Yep but I’m guessing he found this out from somewhere, presumably VADA, if not VADA then where has he got it from? If he’s making it up then VADA could sue him. None of it makes sense.
VADA are bound by confidentiality restrictions. They have strict guidelines as to when and what they communicate. I can't see them making a public statement of any kind. If they admit that Connor's testing process was flawed, they would essentially be saying they are not fit for purpose.
Exactly, so where has he got this information that the process was flawed and mistakes made?
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Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:38
keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:21
Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:12

Yep but I’m guessing he found this out from somewhere, presumably VADA, if not VADA then where has he got it from? If he’s making it up then VADA could sue him. None of it makes sense.
VADA are bound by confidentiality restrictions. They have strict guidelines as to when and what they communicate. I can't see them making a public statement of any kind. If they admit that Connor's testing process was flawed, they would essentially be saying they are not fit for purpose.
Exactly, so where has he got this information that the process was flawed and mistakes made?
The boxers get sent the results, good or bad. If he ain't lying and he tested negative the first few times, then that does sound odd. But I'm sure VADA aren't in a position to confirm or deny.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:50
Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:38
keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:21

VADA are bound by confidentiality restrictions. They have strict guidelines as to when and what they communicate. I can't see them making a public statement of any kind. If they admit that Connor's testing process was flawed, they would essentially be saying they are not fit for purpose.
Exactly, so where has he got this information that the process was flawed and mistakes made?
The boxers get sent the results, good or bad. If he ain't lying and he tested negative the first few times, then that does sound odd. But I'm sure VADA aren't in a position to confirm or deny.
His statement says his science and legal team identified clear flaws in the process, one bad enough for them to lose accreditation so i can only assume VADA were legally bound to comment on what they done. So for the WBC to say no errors in testing was made is bizarre.
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Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:57
keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:50
Controversial wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 09:38

Exactly, so where has he got this information that the process was flawed and mistakes made?
The boxers get sent the results, good or bad. If he ain't lying and he tested negative the first few times, then that does sound odd. But I'm sure VADA aren't in a position to confirm or deny.
His statement says his science and legal team identified clear flaws in the process, one bad enough for them to lose accreditation so i can only assume VADA were legally bound to comment on what they done. So for the WBC to say no errors in testing was made is bizarre.
It’s definitely going to be a damaging precedent for British boxers failing VADA tests to kick up an almighty stink, threaten legal action and hope UKAD and The Board give them a pass. It is bizarre that the WBC after having no doubt had this bad testing argument rammed down their throat for 3-4 months wouldn’t bite and instead concocted a badly conceived egg excuse in a couple of weeks.
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TheLeprechaun wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 21:12
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 20:50
blanca wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 20:09
Go on, tell Curtis he's a racist yer daft twatt.



Nobody likes a entitled rich kid who can't be a man and own up to his wrongdoings no matter what their ethnicity is.
After watching some of that, I have concluded that Woodhouse is just another Internet sheep. He is mentioning 30 eggs a day but nobody even said that. Why did Woodhouse say it? Because he read it from strangers online and just ran with it. He did not check anything he just wants to be on the bandwagon. This alone renders his opinion completely useless.
Do you actually believe Conor? Or is it just a case of "he looks like me, I'll stickup for him. BLM!"
He is probably innocent
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emallini wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 10:31
TheLeprechaun wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 21:12
emallini wrote: 28 Feb 2023, 20:50

After watching some of that, I have concluded that Woodhouse is just another Internet sheep. He is mentioning 30 eggs a day but nobody even said that. Why did Woodhouse say it? Because he read it from strangers online and just ran with it. He did not check anything he just wants to be on the bandwagon. This alone renders his opinion completely useless.
Do you actually believe Conor? Or is it just a case of "he looks like me, I'll stickup for him. BLM!"
He is probably innocent
Nigel?
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emallini wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 10:31 He is probably innocent
None of them are innocent emallini, not fury, not canelo, not whyte and certainly not this clown.
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Imagine he actually didn't do it on purpose though. Must be frustrating seeing all this abuse.
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emallini wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 10:55 Imagine he actually didn't do it on purpose though. Must be frustrating seeing all this abuse.
Correct, but absolutely nothing points towards that. Everything points the other way.
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