Conor Benn - What Next?

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Ukad emphasises its rules as Conor Benn case rumbles on

UK Anti-Doping has taken to Twitter to emphasise its rules, as Conor Benn’s drug-test case rages on.

Benn returned adverse findings in two drug tests last year, leading to the cancellation of his planned bout with Chris Eubank Jr in October.

Benn, 26, has claimed his innocence ever since, and the WBC governing body last month cleared the Briton of intentional cheating. However, Benn – son of British boxing great Nigel – continues to take issue with the British Board of Boxing Control, which stripped the welterweight of his licence.

Meanwhile, UK Anti-Doping (Ukad), which launched an investigation into Benn’s tests after he returned adverse findings, has tweeted a video explaining its rules – just days after Benn partook in an interview with Piers Morgan.

Ukad tweeted on Thursday (9 March): “Strict liability means you are solely responsible for any banned substance you use, attempt to use, or is found in your system, regardless of how it got there or whether there was any intention to cheat.”

The tweet continued, “Learn more about your rights & responsibilities,” with a video attached.

Benn told Morgan this week that he has had suicidal thoughts amid this ongoing saga.

“I didn’t think I’d see another day,” Benn said. “Yeah , yeah I’d say so. It upsets me now, because I don’t know how I got so bad.”
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I thought he handed his license in- not stripped
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Has Hearn confirmed if Benn's legal action against the board will be before or after Matchroom sue Okolie?
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Terminator666 wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 14:28 I thought he handed his license in- not stripped
He did.
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It does appear that Benn suing the Board is a real thing. And Hearn is on the brink of announcing a fight abroad.
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ed swallowing both of conors eggs
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I’d love to hear what is said if he failed another test in the future
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Hearn really wants this to go away doesn't he. Smith was talking in the same manner. As far as they are concerned Benn has been cleared by the WBC and that's it, and yes Conner: That means they agree with the egg theory.

The only trouble is Benn doesn't accept the findings of the WBC and therefore is at loggerheads with his own promoter.

Hearn himself is falling over his own words now as well.
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Twinkle Toes wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 05:27 Hearn really wants this to go away doesn't he. Smith was talking in the same manner. As far as they are concerned Benn has been cleared by the WBC and that's it, and yes Conner: That means they agree with the egg theory.

The only trouble is Benn doesn't accept the findings of the WBC and therefore is at loggerheads with his own promoter.

Hearn himself is falling over his own words now as well.
It doesn’t help Hearn’s cause very much when he’s giving interviews still pushing Clomifene from eggs as a credible excuse. Was it only yesterday he was saying, ‘oh yes, lots of athletes have had Clomifene contamination from eggs.’ Like who ever used that excuse before?

And why would actual knowledgable boxing fans find that even slightly credible as it’s not legal in British farming and the Food Standards Agency have gone on record saying it’s not in the British food chain.

And they keep talking about being cleared by the WBC. For starters the WBC only addressed the May failed test. The second failed test is constantly being conveniently forgotten about when team Benn talk about this. Yet every interview Hearn is doing he’s like, ‘yes he’s cleared by the WBC to fight.’ Does he think we’re all idiots?

As other commentators have said, the more Conor, Hearn and Co talk, the more they trip themselves up and look dishonest. It literally seems to be Hearn’s position that Hearn thinks the British Board of Control, because they were slow to make a decision and cost him a million pounds, that they somehow owe Benn a compromise and a small, slap-on-the-wrist type ban and fine. And presumably not the 3-4 year ban that most other lower profile athletes would certainly be facing.
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As a lot of us said at the beginning it’s all smoke and mirrors, technicalities, vague responses and then ‘we can’t say anything due to legal issues’

It shouldn’t be this difficult, he failed two tests and one of the feeble excuses (eggs) has been discounted by Benn. So that leaves two incorrect test results which just wouldn’t happen. Add into that the samples are purposely not assigned to a persons name to stop any potential for foul play. Or is that “fowl play” lol. So the chances of two samples being messed with is not only impossible but what would anyone gain from doing it. They really have painted themselves into a corner
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Controversial wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 06:37 As a lot of us said at the beginning it’s all smoke and mirrors, technicalities, vague responses and then ‘we can’t say anything due to legal issues’

It shouldn’t be this difficult, he failed two tests and one of the feeble excuses (eggs) has been discounted by Benn. So that leaves two incorrect test results which just wouldn’t happen. Add into that the samples are purposely not assigned to a persons name to stop any potential for foul play. Or is that “fowl play” lol. So the chances of two samples being messed with is not only impossible but what would anyone gain from doing it. They really have painted themselves into a corner
I don’t think it’s confirmed where this takes place, but that recent Gabriel Montoya interview makes the interesting point that there isn’t necessarily a ‘VADA Lab’ either, that for our ‘region’ it’s likely one sophisticated laboratory receiving blind samples and sending reports to VADA. And it’s very likely UKAD use the exact same laboratory.

I don’t think even Hearn can seem to get his words out regarding contamination. He just always seems to refer to Conor’s team/Conor’s legal team handling all that of course. Presumably because this whole concept of not one but TWO blind sample contaminations with the same drug 3 months apart is clearly hard to defend against inquisitive journalists.

They seem quite reliant on their ‘scientist proxy’ not been allowed to be present, when actually it appears he was either late or was actually there. And the stuff about testing a sample multiple times, which for all we know probably had some very good reason behind. They’re totally clutching at straws at this point. Must have cost Benn an absolute fortune in legal fees too!
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polecateddy wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 06:53
Controversial wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 06:37 As a lot of us said at the beginning it’s all smoke and mirrors, technicalities, vague responses and then ‘we can’t say anything due to legal issues’

It shouldn’t be this difficult, he failed two tests and one of the feeble excuses (eggs) has been discounted by Benn. So that leaves two incorrect test results which just wouldn’t happen. Add into that the samples are purposely not assigned to a persons name to stop any potential for foul play. Or is that “fowl play” lol. So the chances of two samples being messed with is not only impossible but what would anyone gain from doing it. They really have painted themselves into a corner
I don’t think it’s confirmed where this takes place, but that recent Gabriel Montoya interview makes the interesting point that there isn’t necessarily a ‘VADA Lab’ either, that for our ‘region’ it’s likely one sophisticated laboratory receiving blind samples and sending reports to VADA. And it’s very likely UKAD use the exact same laboratory.

I don’t think even Hearn can seem to get his words out regarding contamination. He just always seems to refer to Conor’s team/Conor’s legal team handling all that of course. Presumably because this whole concept of not one but TWO blind sample contaminations with the same drug 3 months apart is clearly hard to defend against inquisitive journalists.

They seem quite reliant on their ‘scientist proxy’ not been allowed to be present, when actually it appears he was either late or was actually there. And the stuff about testing a sample multiple times, which for all we know probably had some very good reason behind. They’re totally clutching at straws at this point. Must have cost Benn an absolute fortune in legal fees too!
Absolutely and I’ve seen people on other social media say he must have something for his legal team to be fighting it, you can find any solicitor who will take a case on for big bucks and try and wiggle out of any sticky situation .
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Looking at recent Hearn interviews on Seconds Out you can 100% see the Hearn/Matchroom strategy is to have one lucrative fight abroad, then sit down and sweet talk the board into being licenced, presumably with a back-dated 1 year ban to October 2022, and a fine of less than 100k. If that happens it will be totally outrageous as a) Benn would have been effectively fighting during his ban and b) pretty much all of UKAD fails have been getting 3-4 year bans recently. It would be blatantly preferential treatment and an entirely hollow punishment for two failed tests.
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polecateddy wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 13:16 Looking at recent Hearn interviews on Seconds Out you can 100% see the Hearn/Matchroom strategy is to have one lucrative fight abroad, then sit down and sweet talk the board into being licenced, presumably with a back-dated 1 year ban to October 2022, and a fine of less than 100k. If that happens it will be totally outrageous as a) Benn would have been effectively fighting during his ban and b) pretty much all of UKAD fails have been getting 3-4 year bans recently. It would be blatantly preferential treatment and an entirely hollow punishment for two failed tests.
Probably with the sweetener that they will drop the lawsuit against them if they get what they want
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Controversial wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 13:22
polecateddy wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 13:16 Looking at recent Hearn interviews on Seconds Out you can 100% see the Hearn/Matchroom strategy is to have one lucrative fight abroad, then sit down and sweet talk the board into being licenced, presumably with a back-dated 1 year ban to October 2022, and a fine of less than 100k. If that happens it will be totally outrageous as a) Benn would have been effectively fighting during his ban and b) pretty much all of UKAD fails have been getting 3-4 year bans recently. It would be blatantly preferential treatment and an entirely hollow punishment for two failed tests.
Probably with the sweetener that they will drop the lawsuit against them if they get what they want
Yes, the lawsuit is definitely a lever for Team Benn. I'd expect every well-off boxer to now sue the board for lost earnings if they have issue with a failed test. It sounds sad and painful!
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Mar 2023, 07:45
Another one saying he’s been cleared but the people who done the testing!
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On Buncey’s podcast Eddie Hearn says “The WBC have now cleared Conor Benn … the people who are in charge of that testing have cleared Conor Benn”

What the fornicate Eddie
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Right, so typically money talks and cheaters walk.
Fine, then put him in with a credible opponent, make sure he is off the juice, and let's watch him get his arse kicked :TU:
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KiwiRider wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 01:22 Right, so typically money talks and cheaters walk.
Fine, then put him in with a credible opponent, make sure he is off the juice, and let's watch him get his arse kicked :TU:
Eddie is certainly sounding desperate ,, think he just wants to recoup some of his investment . So i would seriously doubt he'll fight a credible opponent
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coneye wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 01:39
KiwiRider wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 01:22 Right, so typically money talks and cheaters walk.
Fine, then put him in with a credible opponent, make sure he is off the juice, and let's watch him get his arse kicked :TU:
Eddie is certainly sounding desperate ,, think he just wants to recoup some of his investment . So i would seriously doubt he'll fight a credible opponent
Wishful thinking cobber ;-)
I'm sick of the sight and sound of the guy. I'm sick of his "It was the eggs" "It was the lab" "I'm a man of God" bullsh*t.
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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 13 Mar 2023, 22:55 On Buncey’s podcast Eddie Hearn says “The WBC have now cleared Conor Benn … the people who are in charge of that testing have cleared Conor Benn”

What the fornicate Eddie
I presume that’s just a lie. At a stretch you could say for test one - the May test - that was under the (laugh) WBC Clean Boxing Program and the (definitely not corrupt) panel of WBC ‘experts’ have cleared that test for the WBC, but obviously not in terms of UKAD’s investigation. But test 2 wasn’t looked at by the WBC and I presume that testing was contractual testing for the Eubank fight. So Hearn is just lying through his teeth to get what he wants out of the situation.
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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 13 Mar 2023, 22:55 On Buncey’s podcast Eddie Hearn says “The WBC have now cleared Conor Benn … the people who are in charge of that testing have cleared Conor Benn”

What the fornicate Eddie
Why is no one challenging these people when they say this?
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