Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[handsofstone]

I don't think Fury will back out from an injury or otherwise. It's not really his style. The only time I've ever seen Fury get out of a fight was because of his uncle Hughie passing away. I can't even think of a time when a fight was ever postponed due to an injury involving Tyson Fury unless it was his opponent pulling out.

Pulled out of the Klitschko rematch twice. Once with an ankle injury and once with mental health.

Claimed he had covid before Wilder lll and put the fight back 3 months (training camp wasn’t going well apparently) yet was in a casino days after and all his team went to a UFC fight the same weekend when they would have been isolating if he/they had Covid.

I completely forgot about the covid thing. Anyways, he fought Wilder didn't he? So I wouldn’t worry about him not showing up. As for Klitschko, I reckon an older Vladimir still would have lost had Fury been mentally sound. The fact that Fury blew up to 400 pounds is proof in the pudding that he did mentally go off the rails after the Klitschko fight.

Instead of griping we should be happy the fight is happening. It's basically 7 or 6 weeks away. I would be surprised if something dramatic happened between then and now. Both sides wouldn't have reached out to the WBA telling them that the undisputed is going down unless Fury wanted it.

It goes to show you that managers or promoters don't always get the job done. The fighters made it happen in one conversation through social media on the last day to go. If Wembley is secured, etc I can't see Fury throwing the fight away. Too much has been made. There's no going back now. Win or lose Fury has to show up otherwise it's a knock basically on his gypsy heritage. Or at least I would think so, unless it was some serious injury like broken bones.

Haha Henry the only reason this fight is made(if it actually does? Is because of Usyk and the managers/promoters, it's clear as day Warren and Krassuk have been doing their upmost to get things done, Fury has been the spanner in the works from day one, even Frank has admitted as such

Usyk however won't let Fury duck and Fury has zero excuses left only a handful of people like yourself have swallowed their dignity and clung on to defend their hero, it's tragic but so unsurprising

[HomicideHenry]

Noted.... the Fury haters are mad dropping the PED excuse already because if Fury beats Usyk they'll still not accept Fury as the best heavyweight in the world.

Nevermind the fact Usyk's manager has said Usyk has been training since December and potentially could have gone through cycles himself before the fight was made officially. But noooooo Usyk couldn't possibly do that because he's a good boy.

Odd, since Usyk has claimed he's bulking up to face Fury. But that all must be natural, right? Anyways, let the record show the excuses are already being made for Usyk's defeat. Keep watch on the voting percentages on this thread they'll magically shift Fury's way come fight night.

[mickey1975]

Possibly - but at what cost to his brand and mental health?

The Fury brand was quite toxic to the mainstream as it was with the homophobic comments, PED use and Kinahan connection. Increasingly he comes across as obnoxious and a total fake .. his fan base is deserting him en mass.

There’s a group of posters who have been slagging him off for months on here whilst defending Joshua. Joshua is struggling to sell a smaller venue. We’ll find out about Fury’s fanbase when tickets go on sale.

All you and WhiskeyG bang on about are Joshua's tickets sales for Franklin, what's relevance does that have to Fury trying to worm out of the Usyk fight?

You must be a Fury, either that or your one of those gullible idiots who fell for fighting man, mental health advocate schtick

Either way seeing the Fury fanbase on here dwindle to 3 is fkn glorious

Hopefully the fight gets made and Fury gets his cycle right then we have a fight

The crowd on the night will be almost 100% Fury and nearly all gypsy boys. I know i will get stick for this comment but this will be a can't miss event for them, and they're not shy when it comes to throwing cash about.

[Finkel]

This'll be the 2nd fighter in a row that's called Fury's bluff during 'negotiations'
What can he come up with next to weasel out of the fight?

HoneyG will be crying all weekend now. Poor kid

Or has Fury called Usyk’s bluff and secured an extra 20% of the purse?

I think it’s quite clear who’s called who’s bluff.

I think you are probably right in retrospect. I thought the offer was crazy, but they were likely waiting for such an outburst after watching the failed Joshua negotiations. They just have been steadily poking the bear; Krassyuk doing the interview rounds winning hearts and minds. Whilst Usyk has been busy in camp for a while now. They just needed to lock Fury into the undisputed fight.

[mickey1975]

If the fight happens, regardless of the negotiations, you do realise almost everyone on this thread looks like a complete twat.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Noted.... the Fury haters are mad dropping the PED excuse already because if Fury beats Usyk they'll still not accept Fury as the best heavyweight in the world.

A lot of 'haters' on here respected when Fury did his comeback, the way he dominated Wilder in that rematch. Believe me, he's had plenty of respect from posters on this forum.

I think I speak for most on here, sometimes, we think it's best he doesn't talk so much.

[Ruthless-RKO]

If the fight happens, regardless of the negotiations, you do realise almost everyone on this thread looks like a complete twat.

Not really..

The fact it's taken this long and there's been so much on the media about it happening on this date, that date, Saudi, Wembley etc..

It's a forum, discussing is what we're supposed to do.

[maverick23]

There’s a group of posters who have been slagging him off for months on here whilst defending Joshua. Joshua is struggling to sell a smaller venue. We’ll find out about Fury’s fanbase when tickets go on sale.

All you and WhiskeyG bang on about are Joshua's tickets sales for Franklin, what's relevance does that have to Fury trying to worm out of the Usyk fight?

You must be a Fury, either that or your one of those gullible idiots who fell for fighting man, mental health advocate schtick

Either way seeing the Fury fanbase on here dwindle to 3 is fkn glorious

Hopefully the fight gets made and Fury gets his cycle right then we have a fight

The crowd on the night will be almost 100% Fury and nearly all gypsy boys. I know i will get stick for this comment but this will be a can't miss event for them, and they're not shy when it comes to throwing cash about.

I can imagine it being a real big seller for the gypsy community. I think more of the casual fans will be a bit split. Who knows though.

It’ll be interesting to see ticket prices/price of the PPV. I’d imagine Fury will be wanting as much cash as possible so can see ticket prices being crazy and potentially even a £40 PPV price.

[The Gratest]

Or has Fury called Usyk’s bluff and secured an extra 20% of the purse?

Possibly - but at what cost to his brand and mental health?

The Fury brand was quite toxic to the mainstream as it was with the homophobic comments, PED use and Kinahan connection. Increasingly he comes across as obnoxious and a total fake .. his fan base is deserting him en mass.

There’s a group of posters who have been slagging him off for months on here whilst defending Joshua. Joshua is struggling to sell a smaller venue. We’ll find out about Fury’s fanbase when tickets go on sale.

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[BigDoofus]

Possibly - but at what cost to his brand and mental health?

The Fury brand was quite toxic to the mainstream as it was with the homophobic comments, PED use and Kinahan connection. Increasingly he comes across as obnoxious and a total fake .. his fan base is deserting him en mass.

There’s a group of posters who have been slagging him off for months on here whilst defending Joshua. Joshua is struggling to sell a smaller venue. We’ll find out about Fury’s fanbase when tickets go on sale.

All you and WhiskeyG bang on about are Joshua's tickets sales for Franklin, what's relevance does that have to Fury trying to worm out of the Usyk fight?

You must be a Fury, either that or your one of those gullible idiots who fell for fighting man, mental health advocate schtick

Either way seeing the Fury fanbase on here dwindle to 3 is fkn glorious

Hopefully the fight gets made and Fury gets his cycle right then we have a fight

When Fury sells out his next fight maybe you will realize that the knitting circle on here is not representative of the real world.

[maverick23]

I’m still mindful that there’s still probably a fair bit to agree on in the contract.

Rematch clause?
Splits for rematch?
Confirmation of Fury paying the £1m to Ukraine

[BigDoofus]

If the fight happens, regardless of the negotiations, you do realise almost everyone on this thread looks like a complete twat.

It can’t happen Mickey because “Fury is scared”.

[tonyevs]

Or has Fury called Usyk’s bluff and secured an extra 20% of the purse?

Possibly - but at what cost to his brand and mental health?

The Fury brand was quite toxic to the mainstream as it was with the homophobic comments, PED use and Kinahan connection. Increasingly he comes across as obnoxious and a total fake .. his fan base is deserting him en mass.

There’s a group of posters who have been slagging him off for months on here whilst defending Joshua. Joshua is struggling to sell a smaller venue. We’ll find out about Fury’s fanbase when tickets go on sale.

Whats Joshua got to do with this?
Changing the topic won`t change how Fury has gone from hero to zero in the last 18mths.

Either way seeing the Fury fanbase on here dwindle to 3 is fkn glorious

Which sums it up pretty well

I see Mick is having his wind-up - I know he doesn`t believe that for a second the crowd will be even 50% pro Fury .. the casuals will snap up the majority of the tickets, and they appear to have turned against Fury now.

That the fight (appears) to be made doesnt mean those here who said it wouldnt get made look like twats ... it means despite Furys best efforts to duck Usyk as he so successfully has done with other challengers, that Usyk has outmanoeuvred him expertly to get it signed.

Greedy Belly got outsmarted

[The Gratest]

Usyk and his team have played Fury at his own game and got what they wanted, the ultimate prize in boxing, a shot at becoming the unified, undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.
Dominated him at his own social media game (where was the vocal, video hungry Fury for the Netflix Joshua call out?), dominated him with the call outs and silly name calling, and now dominated him in the negotiations when it became clear that the fighting man who doesn't care about money was using that as an excuse to get out of the fight.
So what it's a 70/30 split, that will matter little when Usyk takes the crown. The People's Champ and the undisputed, unified Heavyweight World Champion!

[handsofstone]

Noted.... the Fury haters are mad dropping the PED excuse already because if Fury beats Usyk they'll still not accept Fury as the best heavyweight in the world.

Nevermind the fact Usyk's manager has said Usyk has been training since December and potentially could have gone through cycles himself before the fight was made officially. But noooooo Usyk couldn't possibly do that because he's a good boy.

Odd, since Usyk has claimed he's bulking up to face Fury. But that all must be natural, right? Anyways, let the record show the excuses are already being made for Usyk's defeat. Keep watch on the voting percentages on this thread they'll magically shift Fury's way come fight night.

Haha whinging about a drug cheat getting accused of juicing before accusing the other guy who's never popped dirty of taking PEDs

If Fury wasn't from Traveller stock I'd imagine he'd get next to zero backing on here, my Mrs comes from travelling stock and still has family who live that life and I've got good mates including one of my closest friends who comes from that stock also but I could never imagine deep throating him because of his heritage

It's all a bit strange, Im not exaggerating when I say I've heard people here mention gypsys a lot more than my Mrs has in the 17 years we've been together

I bet if Jimmy Saville was a gypsy he'd have his defenders on here

[mickey1975]

Possibly - but at what cost to his brand and mental health?

The Fury brand was quite toxic to the mainstream as it was with the homophobic comments, PED use and Kinahan connection. Increasingly he comes across as obnoxious and a total fake .. his fan base is deserting him en mass.

There’s a group of posters who have been slagging him off for months on here whilst defending Joshua. Joshua is struggling to sell a smaller venue. We’ll find out about Fury’s fanbase when tickets go on sale.

Whats Joshua got to do with this?
Changing the topic won`t change how Fury has gone from hero to zero in the last 18mths.

Either way seeing the Fury fanbase on here dwindle to 3 is fkn glorious

Which sums it up pretty well

I see Mick is having his wind-up - I know he doesn`t believe that for a second the crowd will be even 50% pro Fury .. the casuals will snap up the majority of the tickets, and they appear to have turned against Fury now.

That the fight (appears) to be made doesnt mean those here who said it wouldnt get made look like twats ... it means despite Furys best efforts to duck Usyk as he so successfully has done with other challengers, that Usyk has outmanoeuvred him expertly to get it signed.

Greedy Belly got outsmarted

Not true, though. If Tyson fights at home for 70% of the purse he has been outsmarted by absolutely nobody. I agree it didnt look like he wanted it yesterday, but if he didn't then no amount of money would force him to. He has got his own way.
As for the tickets i would put my life on it that it will be hugely pro Fury. All the resale will go to traveller boys. It will be an event on their calender. Go see York races on Ebor day to see the type who will be there, who has the best supercar, etc

[handsofstone]

There’s a group of posters who have been slagging him off for months on here whilst defending Joshua. Joshua is struggling to sell a smaller venue. We’ll find out about Fury’s fanbase when tickets go on sale.

All you and WhiskeyG bang on about are Joshua's tickets sales for Franklin, what's relevance does that have to Fury trying to worm out of the Usyk fight?

You must be a Fury, either that or your one of those gullible idiots who fell for fighting man, mental health advocate schtick

Either way seeing the Fury fanbase on here dwindle to 3 is fkn glorious

Hopefully the fight gets made and Fury gets his cycle right then we have a fight

When Fury sells out his next fight maybe you will realize that the knitting circle on here is not representative of the real world.

Doof I couldn't care less if Fury, Usyk or even Joshua for that matter sold out planet earth 10 times over, I'm a boxing fan in the sense that I give props to the fights, I'll let the WWE fans like yourself get wet about ticket sells

[mickey1975]

Noted.... the Fury haters are mad dropping the PED excuse already because if Fury beats Usyk they'll still not accept Fury as the best heavyweight in the world.

Nevermind the fact Usyk's manager has said Usyk has been training since December and potentially could have gone through cycles himself before the fight was made officially. But noooooo Usyk couldn't possibly do that because he's a good boy.

Odd, since Usyk has claimed he's bulking up to face Fury. But that all must be natural, right? Anyways, let the record show the excuses are already being made for Usyk's defeat. Keep watch on the voting percentages on this thread they'll magically shift Fury's way come fight night.

Haha whinging about a drug cheat getting accused of juicing before accusing the other guy who's never popped dirty of taking PEDs

If Fury wasn't from Traveller stock I'd imagine he'd get next to zero backing on here, my Mrs comes from travelling stock and still has family who live that life and I've got good mates including one of my closest friends who comes from that stock also but I could never imagine deep throating him because of his heritage

It's all a bit strange, Im not exaggerating when I say I've heard people here mention gypsys a lot more than my Mrs has in the 17 years we've been together

I bet if Jimmy Saville was a gypsy he'd have his defenders on here

It is generally Fury Haters who mention his background. It is almost treated as a crime to like a gypsy boxer. I have it thrown at me much more than i bring it up. Several times daily. Nobody has pulled me up for saying I like Dan Azeez.

[big lennox]

There’s a group of posters who have been slagging him off for months on here whilst defending Joshua. Joshua is struggling to sell a smaller venue. We’ll find out about Fury’s fanbase when tickets go on sale.

All you and WhiskeyG bang on about are Joshua's tickets sales for Franklin, what's relevance does that have to Fury trying to worm out of the Usyk fight?

You must be a Fury, either that or your one of those gullible idiots who fell for fighting man, mental health advocate schtick

Either way seeing the Fury fanbase on here dwindle to 3 is fkn glorious

Hopefully the fight gets made and Fury gets his cycle right then we have a fight

When Fury sells out his next fight maybe you will realize that the knitting circle on here is not representative of the real world.

I don't think anyone is disputing that Fury is a big ticket seller (although his pay per view figures have been a lot lower than Joshua's, although I suspect that won't be the case with this fight).

Looking at the comments on twitter and underneath the boxing media videos, I would say that about 95% of people were begining to question his desire to take on his toughest competitor's. A real shame as he is an exceptional talent, and away from the media hype, comes over as being a good guy.

I just couldn't get my head round the Whyte and Chisora III fights and thar he was seemingly prepared to walk away from this undisputed fight.

Fingers crossed it gets signed, as I think it will be a massive shot in the arm for boxing. And may the best man win. Both are brilliant boxers.

Are you looking forward to it?

[mickey1975]

All you and WhiskeyG bang on about are Joshua's tickets sales for Franklin, what's relevance does that have to Fury trying to worm out of the Usyk fight?

You must be a Fury, either that or your one of those gullible idiots who fell for fighting man, mental health advocate schtick

Either way seeing the Fury fanbase on here dwindle to 3 is fkn glorious

Hopefully the fight gets made and Fury gets his cycle right then we have a fight

When Fury sells out his next fight maybe you will realize that the knitting circle on here is not representative of the real world.

I don't think anyone is disputing that Fury is a big ticket seller (although his pay per view figures have been a lot lower than Joshua's, although I suspect that won't be the case with this fight).

Looking at the comments on twitter and underneath the boxing media videos, I would say that about 95% of people were begining to question his desire to take on his toughest competitor's. A real shame as he is an exceptional talent, and away from the media hype, comes over as being a good guy.

I just couldn't get my head round the Whyte and Chisora III fights and thar he was seemingly prepared to walk away from this undisputed fight.

Fingers crossed it gets signed, as I think it will be a massive shot in the arm for boxing. And may the best man win. Both are brilliant boxers.

Are you looking forward to it?

Can't wait. I would probably prefer to watch on telly but will more than likely go, history and all that.

[handsofstone]

Noted.... the Fury haters are mad dropping the PED excuse already because if Fury beats Usyk they'll still not accept Fury as the best heavyweight in the world.

Nevermind the fact Usyk's manager has said Usyk has been training since December and potentially could have gone through cycles himself before the fight was made officially. But noooooo Usyk couldn't possibly do that because he's a good boy.

Odd, since Usyk has claimed he's bulking up to face Fury. But that all must be natural, right? Anyways, let the record show the excuses are already being made for Usyk's defeat. Keep watch on the voting percentages on this thread they'll magically shift Fury's way come fight night.

Haha whinging about a drug cheat getting accused of juicing before accusing the other guy who's never popped dirty of taking PEDs

If Fury wasn't from Traveller stock I'd imagine he'd get next to zero backing on here, my Mrs comes from travelling stock and still has family who live that life and I've got good mates including one of my closest friends who comes from that stock also but I could never imagine deep throating him because of his heritage

It's all a bit strange, Im not exaggerating when I say I've heard people here mention gypsys a lot more than my Mrs has in the 17 years we've been together

I bet if Jimmy Saville was a gypsy he'd have his defenders on here

It is generally Fury Haters who mention his background. It is almost treated as a crime to like a gypsy boxer. I have it thrown at me much more than i bring it up. Several times daily. Nobody has pulled me up for saying I like Dan Azeez.

Fury's whole gimmick is the fact that he's a gypsy, his moniker is the Gypsy King, never stops going about being a fighting man not interested in fame or money despite the truth being the opposite, don't be surprised when people use it a weapon to beat him with

Between the countless books he's released to the fly on the wall documentaries, he seems to be on GMB every other week whereas the fabricated brand Joshua barely tweets or does interviews ever, only occasionial cringey Facebook style inspirational quotes on Twitter/Instagram and obviously his endorsements

No doubt Joshua has been carefully constructed but if you think he's more fake than the walking lying contradictory Gypsy King then you need your head examined

If I was in the 5% of the argument with Henry, WhiskeyG and Doofus on my side I'd be seriously considering my stance

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tyson Fury Officially Starts Camp For Usyk Fight: “I Only Need 6 Weeks”


Tyson Fury has announced the start of a six week training camp to face WBA, WBO, and IBF world champion, Oleksandr Usyk.

Fury – who holds the WBC belt – is working towards a date of April 29 for the four-belt clash.

His announcement comes a day after the WBA were informed at the last minute to pause making other plans for Usyk as the pair had finally agreed terms to fight.

‘The Gypsy King’ posted a video on Instagram of him jogging on Morecambe Bay, informing fans that he didn’t need more than six weeks of prep.

“Good morning people, world. Today is the first day of my training for the Usyk fight. I don’t need six months, four months and all that. I got six weeks and a week rest. Done. Happy days. And I’m gonna impose my will on this little sneaky motherf***er. Cannot wait. Rule Britannia. Get up.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[big lennox]

When Fury sells out his next fight maybe you will realize that the knitting circle on here is not representative of the real world.

I don't think anyone is disputing that Fury is a big ticket seller (although his pay per view figures have been a lot lower than Joshua's, although I suspect that won't be the case with this fight).

Looking at the comments on twitter and underneath the boxing media videos, I would say that about 95% of people were begining to question his desire to take on his toughest competitor's. A real shame as he is an exceptional talent, and away from the media hype, comes over as being a good guy.

I just couldn't get my head round the Whyte and Chisora III fights and thar he was seemingly prepared to walk away from this undisputed fight.

Fingers crossed it gets signed, as I think it will be a massive shot in the arm for boxing. And may the best man win. Both are brilliant boxers.

Are you looking forward to it?

Can't wait. I would probably prefer to watch on telly but will more than likely go, history and all that.

It will be an astonishing atmosphere. Glad it's at Wembley. The fight week buzz, and the buzz around the arena on fight night will be electric.

[mickey1975]

I have no doubt he has been training all along.