Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[mickey1975]

The fact that this thread has nothing to do with them as well.

He had literally just mentioned them. EVERYONE is aware of what happened, there is no need for a prefix here every day. It's a hardcore forum, we know. Its not going to change anyone's opinion of Fury, either.

Why do you support him even though he is a proven PED cheat?

Don't you ever get bored of this, Keith?

[keithmoonhangover]

He had literally just mentioned them. EVERYONE is aware of what happened, there is no need for a prefix here every day. It's a hardcore forum, we know. Its not going to change anyone's opinion of Fury, either.

Why do you support him even though he is a proven PED cheat?

Don't you ever get bored of this, Keith?

I don't think you've ever answered the question. I'm curious, did Fury failing a drug test have any effect on your support for him?

[mickey1975]

Why do you support him even though he is a proven PED cheat?

Don't you ever get bored of this, Keith?

I don't think you've ever answered the question. I'm curious, did Fury failing a drug test have any effect on your support for him?

No, I accepted his explanation. I also loved Paul Ingle, I accepted his, too. I'm pretty sure you are aware of this, i haven't exactly been hiding my support for the last 8 years. Do you hate every boxer who has ever done anything wrong?

[Ruthless-RKO]

How embarrassing!

Mr. Mental Health Advocate.

Then he says gappy-tooth bastard and poor ol’ Joe Parker doesn’t know where to look

[mickey1975]

'Poor' Joe is laughing and has chosen to be there rather than the other side of the world with his family!

[AlexCayWalt]

I think it’s quite clear who’s called who’s bluff.

The learned people on this forum were urging Fury to sign for 50/50. How much extra money could he earn from ignoring the Forum “experts”?

The claim: Forumites said Fury couldn't hardball a larger cut.

The truth: Many of us said 50:50 was very fair, and if Fury deviated too far from that it would suggest he was looking for a way out.

Has any other world champion ever taken 30%? Because I've followed boxing for 30 years and it feels unprecedented to me.

UFC has plenty of its own problems, but I'm closer than ever to switching. If boxing doesn't right itself I can see myself gone in a few years' time. So naturally I'd like Usyk to win.

Klitschko and Ibragimov had 50:50 split during the unification, without A, B, C stuff talks. Although it was obvious who's the draw, the unification was the priority for both of them. Here, Fury's behavior is very strange.

[The Gratest]

Another pick for Usyk by points on the poll. I originally went for points as well but after hearing Fury's breathing on that running video, he could well find Usyk's pace too much and a late retirement TKO might not be out of the question.

[ashall2]

How embarrassing!

Mr. Mental Health Advocate.

Then he says gappy-tooth bastard and poor ol’ Joe Parker doesn’t know where to look

150 rounds with Paint Dry Parker wouldn’t set him up for Usyk never mind 15.

[ashall2]

My prediction for anyone that cares.

Usyk on a split decision win despite the fight appearing wider than that. Usyk’s footwork, constant feints and movement will tire Fury out who won’t be able to pin him down or match his pace and will resort to cheap tricks.

The Fury of the Klitschko fight could have matched Usyk but his legs have gone now. He isn’t fighting a sitting duck in Wilder, Whyte or Pudding Chisora now - he’s fighting a 12 round machine who will adapt to whatever Fury throws at him and fight at a relentless pace.

Usyk will dance round him all night picking him off with point-scoring shots.

[watsupdoc87]

Hey so this is 70 pages long. I cdnt be bothered to go through it all and i dont follow social media. Is the fight on guys? No personal attacks, just is it happening guys?

[mickey1975]

My prediction for anyone that cares.

Usyk on a split decision win despite the fight appearing wider than that. Usyk’s footwork, constant feints and movement will tire Fury out who won’t be able to pin him down or match his pace and will resort to cheap tricks.

The Fury of the Klitschko fight could have matched Usyk but his legs have gone now. He isn’t fighting a sitting duck in Wilder, Whyte or Pudding Chisora now - he’s fighting a 12 round machine who will adapt to whatever Fury throws at him and fight at a relentless pace.

Usyk will dance round him all night picking him off with point-scoring shots.

Usyk in AJ 2 had slowed too in my opinion.

[tonyevs]

We seeing and hearing more of the real Tyson Fury .. and he really ain't a likeable person is he.

Fantastic the fight appears on - fingers crossed Fury doesn't decide he needs that elbow surgery a week or so from the 29th.

Fury starts the obvious favourite based on his size advantage. I personally feel the referee will be the deciding factor in what he allows Fury to get away with.

Head says Fury - heart saying Usyk.

[keithmoonhangover]

Don't you ever get bored of this, Keith?

I don't think you've ever answered the question. I'm curious, did Fury failing a drug test have any effect on your support for him?

No, I accepted his explanation. I also loved Paul Ingle, I accepted his, too. I'm pretty sure you are aware of this, i haven't exactly been hiding my support for the last 8 years. Do you hate every boxer who has ever done anything wrong?

Using PEDs in boxing means a boxer could punch harder for longer. This is a sport, which directly causes brain damage. If someone uses PEDs, they can inflict more brain damaged to a person. But you're OK with it, because Fury says, "I didn't take PEDs, I ate uncastrated boar meat'.

If one of your kids was a boxer, would you prefer him/her to be boxing a clean fighter or PED user?

[ashall2]

My prediction for anyone that cares.

Usyk on a split decision win despite the fight appearing wider than that. Usyk’s footwork, constant feints and movement will tire Fury out who won’t be able to pin him down or match his pace and will resort to cheap tricks.

The Fury of the Klitschko fight could have matched Usyk but his legs have gone now. He isn’t fighting a sitting duck in Wilder, Whyte or Pudding Chisora now - he’s fighting a 12 round machine who will adapt to whatever Fury throws at him and fight at a relentless pace.

Usyk will dance round him all night picking him off with point-scoring shots.

Usyk in AJ 2 had slowed too in my opinion.

Maybe pal but stormed rounds 10-12 didn’t he. Either way it’s a compelling fight. Probably an unpopular opinion but I prefer this type of match up where there’s a lot more variables than the hypothetical Joshua-Wilder 2018 fight where it would have been a who-lands-first fight.

[The Gratest]

Fury's shorts will be acting as nipple warmers more than ever in this fight.

[mickey1975]

I don't think you've ever answered the question. I'm curious, did Fury failing a drug test have any effect on your support for him?

No, I accepted his explanation. I also loved Paul Ingle, I accepted his, too. I'm pretty sure you are aware of this, i haven't exactly been hiding my support for the last 8 years. Do you hate every boxer who has ever done anything wrong?

Using PEDs in boxing means a boxer could punch harder for longer. This is a sport, which directly causes brain damage. If someone uses PEDs, they can inflict more brain damaged to a person. But you're OK with it, because Fury says, "I didn't take PEDs, I ate uncastrated boar meat'.

If one of your kids was a boxer, would you prefer him/her to be boxing a clean fighter or PED user?

Thanks for the boxing lesson, Keith, invaluable. Move on, mate, especially with the repetitive stupid questions.

[polecateddy]

I don't think you've ever answered the question. I'm curious, did Fury failing a drug test have any effect on your support for him?

No, I accepted his explanation. I also loved Paul Ingle, I accepted his, too. I'm pretty sure you are aware of this, i haven't exactly been hiding my support for the last 8 years. Do you hate every boxer who has ever done anything wrong?

Using PEDs in boxing means a boxer could punch harder for longer. This is a sport, which directly causes brain damage. If someone uses PEDs, they can inflict more brain damaged to a person. But you're OK with it, because Fury says, "I didn't take PEDs, I ate uncastrated boar meat'.

If one of your kids was a boxer, would you prefer him/her to be boxing a clean fighter or PED user?

Wasn’t the account of his evidence under oath in this matter agreeing that he ate one uncastrated boars testicle every day? Presumably the testosterone wasn’t in the other meat in sufficient quantities to make a decent defence out of it. Obviously the truth would be he experimented taking performance enhancing drugs and made a balls up of it. But the flip-side I’d imagine would be that the other top British heavies - Joshua and Whyte probably took a lot more and for longer. Presumably Chisora did a lot less and perhaps Price none at all, but they never reached the same level either.

[joshj909]

No, I accepted his explanation. I also loved Paul Ingle, I accepted his, too. I'm pretty sure you are aware of this, i haven't exactly been hiding my support for the last 8 years. Do you hate every boxer who has ever done anything wrong?

Using PEDs in boxing means a boxer could punch harder for longer. This is a sport, which directly causes brain damage. If someone uses PEDs, they can inflict more brain damaged to a person. But you're OK with it, because Fury says, "I didn't take PEDs, I ate uncastrated boar meat'.

If one of your kids was a boxer, would you prefer him/her to be boxing a clean fighter or PED user?

Wasn’t the account of his evidence under oath in this matter agreeing that he ate one uncastrated boars testicle every day? Presumably the testosterone wasn’t in the other meat in sufficient quantities to make a decent defence out of it. Obviously the truth would be he experimented taking performance enhancing drugs and made a balls up of it. But the flip-side I’d imagine would be that the other top British heavies - Joshua and Whyte probably took a lot more and for longer. Presumably Chisora did a lot less and perhaps Price none at all, but they never reached the same level either.

Prove it

[watsupdoc87]

Using PEDs in boxing means a boxer could punch harder for longer. This is a sport, which directly causes brain damage. If someone uses PEDs, they can inflict more brain damaged to a person. But you're OK with it, because Fury says, "I didn't take PEDs, I ate uncastrated boar meat'.

If one of your kids was a boxer, would you prefer him/her to be boxing a clean fighter or PED user?

Wasn’t the account of his evidence under oath in this matter agreeing that he ate one uncastrated boars testicle every day? Presumably the testosterone wasn’t in the other meat in sufficient quantities to make a decent defence out of it. Obviously the truth would be he experimented taking performance enhancing drugs and made a balls up of it. But the flip-side I’d imagine would be that the other top British heavies - Joshua and Whyte probably took a lot more and for longer. Presumably Chisora did a lot less and perhaps Price none at all, but they never reached the same level either.

Prove it

Joshs turtle gut is proof enough if you know anything about bodybuilding/juicing

[mickey1975]

They did with Whyte.

[joshj909]

Wasn’t the account of his evidence under oath in this matter agreeing that he ate one uncastrated boars testicle every day? Presumably the testosterone wasn’t in the other meat in sufficient quantities to make a decent defence out of it. Obviously the truth would be he experimented taking performance enhancing drugs and made a balls up of it. But the flip-side I’d imagine would be that the other top British heavies - Joshua and Whyte probably took a lot more and for longer. Presumably Chisora did a lot less and perhaps Price none at all, but they never reached the same level either.

Prove it

Joshs turtle gut is proof enough if you know anything about bodybuilding/juicing

The initial post suggested that Fury did PEDs as a one off while the others have used it "a lot more and for a lot longer" despite Fury testing positive for PEDs and Joshua and Chisora never testing positive. Don't get me wrong, I think it's likely over half of the top boxers use PEDs in some capacity but to suggest one boxer uses it significantly more than another who used it as a one off despite the former boxer being caught and the latter boxer not failing a test is clear bias.

[watsupdoc87]

Prove it

Joshs turtle gut is proof enough if you know anything about bodybuilding/juicing

The initial post suggested that Fury did PEDs as a one off while the others have used it "a lot more and for a lot longer" despite Fury testing positive for PEDs and Joshua and Chisora never testing positive. Don't get me wrong, I think it's likely over half of the top boxers use PEDs in some capacity but to suggest one boxer uses it significantly more than another who used it as a one off despite the former boxer being caught and the latter boxer not failing a test is clear bias.

I believe 95% are dirty. And the other 5 % can't afford it

[mickey1975]

Prove it

Joshs turtle gut is proof enough if you know anything about bodybuilding/juicing

The initial post suggested that Fury did PEDs as a one off while the others have used it "a lot more and for a lot longer" despite Fury testing positive for PEDs and Joshua and Chisora never testing positive. Don't get me wrong, I think it's likely over half of the top boxers use PEDs in some capacity but to suggest one boxer uses it significantly more than another who used it as a one off despite the former boxer being caught and the latter boxer not failing a test is clear bias.

Keith mentioning it every single time Fury's name is mentioned is both annoying and bias. He never lists it with anyone else.

[keithmoonhangover]

the repetitive stupid questions.

I've only asked you this the once in the last post.....

If one of your kids was a boxer, would you prefer him/her to be boxing a clean fighter or PED user?

[mickey1975]

the repetitive stupid questions.

I've only asked you this the once in the last post.....

If one of your kids was a boxer, would you prefer him/her to be boxing a clean fighter or PED user?

I would like them to be off their tits.