Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[jwfg]

The Forum bubble seemed so happy when it appeared the fight wasn’t going to happen. Now it’s “Fury will bring his own ref”. “Fury cheated “.
I get the impression that some will be overjoyed if the fight doesn’t happen.

Fury did cheat. That is an undeniable fact.

[887986]

Vitali Klitschko - tested positive for a banned substance in 1996 when he was an amateur boxer preparing to represent his country, Ukraine, in the Olympics.

I specifically wrote professional.

you also wrote that it was a culture of honour that precludes cheating, which should apply to both professionals and amateurs, if true.

True in a sense - however, bear in mind that there is a big difference between the amateur and the pro ranks. There are no financial aspects involved in amateur ranks. Maybe it's seen as cheating at the pro ranks is stealing the prize money therefore that's where they draw the line.

Or Vitali maybe the exemption to the rule. Or maybe I'm just completely wrong with the whole assumption. As I mentioned, I don't have any evidence to support my theory about the moral aspects of Ukrainian athletes. It's just based on how curious it is that although there are tons of Ukrainian fighters out there in all weight classes, you don't hear PED abuse cases involving them. It's much more common with US and UK fighters.

[quickeyg]

Sounds like someone's had a regular check up recently

[big lennox]

Fury is putting yet another obstacle in the way of this unification fight. He has become such a bore:

[mickey1975]

Judging by this morning’s developments I don’t think the fight will happen in April. Tyson looks deranged at the minute and should be in serious training instead of making stupid videos. He’s not mentally or physically ready. Queue the abuse…

[The Gratest]

He sounds very angry. The gap-toothed middleweight rabbit accepting the 70/30 split has really set him off.
Glad to see he's over the social media blackout though.

[mickey1975]

Fury is putting yet another obstacle in the way of this unification fight. He has become such a bore:

Krassyk has accepted.

[joshj909]

Judging by this morning’s developments I don’t think the fight will happen in April. Tyson looks deranged at the minute and should be in serious training instead of making stupid videos. He’s not mentally or physically ready. Queue the abuse…

Atleast you're honest about it.

But I agree that this new video is a bit odd. Why would he not want a big money rematch if he wins or a second chance if he loses? My first thoughts are that he would want to retire either way but it could be another stalling traffic when there isn't really much time to be stalling.

[Counter-puncher]

It's just based on how curious it is that although there are tons of Ukrainian fighters out there in all weight classes, you don't hear PED abuse cases involving them. It's much more common with US and UK fighters.

well, generally I am highly sceptical of exceptionalist claims that X Nation's people universally or predominantly hold particular values or qualities merely due to their nationality.

however a simply google search 'ukrainian fighter (i expanded to 'athlete')positive test banned substance' reveals very, very little, I mean there was a female cross-country skier who got busted, once, but that does suggest the testers have historically had slim pickings with the Ukrainians.

[Ruthless-RKO]

n a video posted on his social media accounts, Fury said: “Hi, Tyson Fury here. Just a quick one, I have been talking to the lawyers today and Usyk’s people have been talking about rematch clauses and all that b******s.

“Here’s one to up the anti, how about there is no rematch f****ing clause for both of us.

“Let’s up the antis completely, never worry about what’s in the future and how many more dollars you can get after you’ve been defeated.

“Worry about the fight, April 29th, no rematch clause. The winner takes the glory, the loser goes home with his d**k in his hand. Agree to that you f***ing b***h.”

[big lennox]

Fury is putting yet another obstacle in the way of this unification fight. He has become such a bore:

Krassyk has accepted.

My favourite bit in the comments section.
‘Ffs. He’ll be asking for a rehydration clause next’.

[mickey1975]

Judging by this morning’s developments I don’t think the fight will happen in April. Tyson looks deranged at the minute and should be in serious training instead of making stupid videos. He’s not mentally or physically ready. Queue the abuse…

Atleast you're honest about it.

But I agree that this new video is a bit odd. Why would he not want a big money rematch if he wins or a second chance if he loses? My first thoughts are that he would want to retire either way but it could be another stalling traffic when there isn't really much time to be stalling.

Talksport got Team Usyk on straight away and they said fine.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Alexander Krassyuk told talkSPORT the Brit is running scared: “The greedy belly is still trying to find a way to pull out.

“He bluffed and Usyk called his bluff.

“It’s all about nothing. He is not prepared, he is scared to fight and will try to find a way to avoid Usyk as long as it is possible. We don’t trust him.

“When we started negotiations, Fury’s side was the first to ask for a rematch clause.

“I don’t believe anyone will fight. Even if we accept this now, he will still try to find a way out.

“His credibility is already shot to pieces.

“It’s not serious already, the man is trying to escape. I’m really sorry for fighting fans. It’s a shame for a fighter to act like that. It’s not about money, it’s about fear.

“I don’t feel this fight will happen on April 29.”

[polecateddy]

Judging by this morning’s developments I don’t think the fight will happen in April. Tyson looks deranged at the minute and should be in serious training instead of making stupid videos. He’s not mentally or physically ready. Queue the abuse…

It does seem all a bit last minute. Does he even have any good fighters lined up for sparring?

[Controversial]

If it does happen in April Fury could find himself in a tough fight. Usyk is the consummate professional and he will be in tip top condition whereas Fury seems to be all over the place lately. Add into that Fury hasn't really boxed anyone with the skill level of Usyk so he might get a shock, we are used to him fighting pretty similar style HWs who all tend to be more power than skill. I still fancy Fury to beat him but I don't think it will be easy.

[tiny_acres]

Fury is putting yet another obstacle in the way of this unification fight. He has become such a bore:

I can hear Usyk now.... Alright send the contract I'll agree to anything for a chance to shut your mouth

[Terminator666]

Usyk would probably do it for winner take all.

[887986]

Fury is putting yet another obstacle in the way of this unification fight. He has become such a bore:

"and how many more dollars can you get out of it" - says the guy who demanded 70% of the purse.

At this point, it's becoming an embarrassment to even somewhat like Tyson Fury let alone being a fan of his.

[quickeyg]

Fury is putting yet another obstacle in the way of this unification fight. He has become such a bore:

Krassyk has accepted.

My favourite bit in the comments section.
‘Ffs. He’ll be asking for a rehydration clause next’.

Only PBC fighters do that

[Terminator666]

Looks like Fury is desperate for a way out- can’t see this happening april 29th

[polecateddy]

I reckon a decision loss to Usyk (at some point this year), a stoppage loss to Joshua, retirement to eat a lot of curry and cake in Morecambe.

[quickeyg]

Come on Usyk agree to the terms.



What's the matter?

[Nightmare Roy]

Fury is putting yet another obstacle in the way of this unification fight. He has become such a bore:

I don't think Usyk will be bothered, if he beats Fury he has completed boxing and will walk away as one of the GOATS

[887986]

Come on Usyk agree to the terms.



What's the matter?

How to tell me you are a Furyette without actually telling me.

Usyk has already agreed, mate.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Pulled out of the Klitschko rematch twice. Once with an ankle injury and once with mental health.

Claimed he had covid before Wilder lll and put the fight back 3 months (training camp wasn’t going well apparently) yet was in a casino days after and all his team went to a UFC fight the same weekend when they would have been isolating if he/they had Covid.

I completely forgot about the covid thing. Anyways, he fought Wilder didn't he? So I wouldn’t worry about him not showing up. As for Klitschko, I reckon an older Vladimir still would have lost had Fury been mentally sound. The fact that Fury blew up to 400 pounds is proof in the pudding that he did mentally go off the rails after the Klitschko fight.

Instead of griping we should be happy the fight is happening. It's basically 7 or 6 weeks away. I would be surprised if something dramatic happened between then and now. Both sides wouldn't have reached out to the WBA telling them that the undisputed is going down unless Fury wanted it.

It goes to show you that managers or promoters don't always get the job done. The fighters made it happen in one conversation through social media on the last day to go. If Wembley is secured, etc I can't see Fury throwing the fight away. Too much has been made. There's no going back now. Win or lose Fury has to show up otherwise it's a knock basically on his gypsy heritage. Or at least I would think so, unless it was some serious injury like broken bones.

Haha Henry the only reason this fight is made(if it actually does? Is because of Usyk and the managers/promoters, it's clear as day Warren and Krassuk have been doing their upmost to get things done, Fury has been the spanner in the works from day one, even Frank has admitted as such

Usyk however won't let Fury duck and Fury has zero excuses left only a handful of people like yourself have swallowed their dignity and clung on to defend their hero, it's tragic but so unsurprising

And we're back to square one