Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[The Gratest]

Usyk and Krassyuk have played Fury perfectly here. They've boxed him in with every twist and turn he's attempted and now cutting him off before he attempts his next shithousery move.

@ ashall2, cool story, Usyk comes across as a cool and genuine guy, no fake shit about him. He certainly has won over a whole legion of Brit fans. It all started with taking that phone call whilst Fury ranted and raved in the ring, put Fury on hold

[jwfg]

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/tyson-fury- ... 32837.html

Fury is training really hard for this fight.

[HomicideHenry]

I will say the whole thing is extremely bizarre, and I can only think It has to be mind games. If it is about getting inside of Usyk's head, It seems to be working. I have never seen the Ukrainian ever be agitated before.

Maybe Tyson Fury is trying to get him so mad that Usyk would try to slug it out with him, or to assume Fury is so scared of his chances that Usyk will be not take him seriously as much and make mistakes. Or it's the whole Vladimir Klitschko scenario all over again thinking Fury is crazy and therefore unpredictable and become overly cautious in the ring.

Usyk is used to dealing with serious people not WWE pantomime characters, sign the contract then play your mind games or does Fury need an extra 2 months of mind games so Usyk is ripe for the taking?

With Tyson Fury you never really know but there always seems to be a method to the madness. Perhaps it is possible to assume that Fury needs a date in May or June, but I think most of this going on is all about mind games.

Ukrainian's are people who take things so seriously, that when they encounter something unpredictable or agitating that I think they are completely befuddled because their entire lives are about being straight forward, no issues, no complexities, etc.

If you are constantly questioning within your heart and mind whether the fight will really happen and you are training for months and potentially may have to train for another month or two, you are going to be not only mentally and emotionally burnt out you're going to be physically burnt out.

[handsofstone]

I will say the whole thing is extremely bizarre, and I can only think It has to be mind games. If it is about getting inside of Usyk's head, It seems to be working. I have never seen the Ukrainian ever be agitated before.

Maybe Tyson Fury is trying to get him so mad that Usyk would try to slug it out with him, or to assume Fury is so scared of his chances that Usyk will be not take him seriously as much and make mistakes. Or it's the whole Vladimir Klitschko scenario all over again thinking Fury is crazy and therefore unpredictable and become overly cautious in the ring.

Usyk is used to dealing with serious people not WWE pantomime characters, sign the contract then play your mind games or does Fury need an extra 2 months of mind games so Usyk is ripe for the taking?

With Tyson Fury you never really know but there always seems to be a method to the madness. Perhaps it is possible to assume that Fury needs a date in May or June, but I think most of this going on is all about mind games.

Ukrainian's are people who take things so seriously, that when they encounter something unpredictable or agitating that I think they are completely befuddled because their entire lives are about being straight forward, no issues, no complexities, etc.

If you are constantly questioning within your heart and mind whether the fight will really happen and you are training for months and potentially may have to train for another month or two, you are going to be not only mentally and emotionally burnt out you're going to be physically burnt out.

Think your clutching a bit there, the fights meant to be 6 weeks away and all of a sudden he's putting risky demands in there, don't forget Fury already bailed out on the Klitschko rematch, tried to avoid the third Wilder fight while also stringing along Joshua and the public twice, how dare he be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Ali, Tyson and Lewis

[The Gratest]

Yeah, Usyk seems like a really serious guy

[Ruthless-RKO]

Just some casual fans on FB on an ESPN post.

[HomicideHenry]

Usyk is used to dealing with serious people not WWE pantomime characters, sign the contract then play your mind games or does Fury need an extra 2 months of mind games so Usyk is ripe for the taking?

With Tyson Fury you never really know but there always seems to be a method to the madness. Perhaps it is possible to assume that Fury needs a date in May or June, but I think most of this going on is all about mind games.

Ukrainian's are people who take things so seriously, that when they encounter something unpredictable or agitating that I think they are completely befuddled because their entire lives are about being straight forward, no issues, no complexities, etc.

If you are constantly questioning within your heart and mind whether the fight will really happen and you are training for months and potentially may have to train for another month or two, you are going to be not only mentally and emotionally burnt out you're going to be physically burnt out.

Think your clutching a bit there, the fights meant to be 6 weeks away and all of a sudden he's putting risky demands in there, don't forget Fury already bailed out on the Klitschko rematch, tried to avoid the third Wilder fight while also stringing along Joshua and the public twice, how dare he be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Ali, Tyson and Lewis

I don't count Klitschko because he was clearly going off the rails. The third fight nobody wanted, Fury wanted that Joshua fight, but Wilder won arbitration.

As for Ali, Tyson and Lewis those men had their own shenanigans throughout their careers as well so let's not rewrite history. Regardless, I wonder if your tune would change if the fight does go down and Tyson fury actually beats Usyk.

Somehow I doubt it because that is the nature of this boxing website. The critics always say Fury will lose and if he wins people will say he was a steroid abusing cheat anyways so they never give him the props anyway.

I will say and have always said that the only way Tyson Fury could lose anybody is if Tyson Fury screwed his own self over. If he loses to the Ukrainian it will be because he fucked around too much in-between fights.

I hope to Jesus that the fight happens, and that Tyson Fury is truly properly ready and that all of this crap Is just mind games and all of you are just throwing a tantrum cause you bought into it hook line and sinker. Just like you guys buy into every antic or every word he ever says.

[The Gratest]

Gypsy Bobbins fantasizing over the Gypsy King once again. This truly is a love story for the ages ❤

[polecateddy]

With Tyson Fury you never really know but there always seems to be a method to the madness. Perhaps it is possible to assume that Fury needs a date in May or June, but I think most of this going on is all about mind games.

Ukrainian's are people who take things so seriously, that when they encounter something unpredictable or agitating that I think they are completely befuddled because their entire lives are about being straight forward, no issues, no complexities, etc.

If you are constantly questioning within your heart and mind whether the fight will really happen and you are training for months and potentially may have to train for another month or two, you are going to be not only mentally and emotionally burnt out you're going to be physically burnt out.

Think your clutching a bit there, the fights meant to be 6 weeks away and all of a sudden he's putting risky demands in there, don't forget Fury already bailed out on the Klitschko rematch, tried to avoid the third Wilder fight while also stringing along Joshua and the public twice, how dare he be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Ali, Tyson and Lewis

I don't count Klitschko because he was clearly going off the rails. The third fight nobody wanted, Fury wanted that Joshua fight, but Wilder won arbitration.

As for Ali, Tyson and Lewis those men had their own shenanigans throughout their careers as well so let's not rewrite history. Regardless, I wonder if your tune would change if the fight does go down and Tyson fury actually beats Usyk.

Somehow I doubt it because that is the nature of this boxing website. The critics always say Fury will lose and if he wins people will say he was a steroid abusing cheat anyways so they never give him the props anyway.

I will say and have always said that the only way Tyson Fury could lose anybody is if Tyson Fury screwed his own self over. If he loses to the Ukrainian it will be because he fucked around too much in-between fights.

I hope to Jesus that the fight happens, and that Tyson Fury is truly properly ready and that all of this crap Is just mind games and all of you are just throwing a tantrum cause you bought into it hook line and sinker. Just like you guys buy into every antic or every word he ever says.

Just out of interest what shenanigans have you attached to Lewis? I don’t think Ali, Tyson and Lewis ever actively avoided challenging fights. There was nobody in the eras when they were at their peak that was frozen out or swerved. Bowe avoiding Lewis is really the only instance I can recall being a wasted match up. I mean at a stretch you could say Tyson and Holyfield fighting prior to jail, but they still put on some memorable fights later on. But here we have Fury seemingly reluctant to engage with any number of good fighters.

I think if Fury beats Usyk it’s great. Lots of credit! But let’s see some more - some round robins with Joyce and Joshua. Before he’s old and fat like John.

[nmhz]

Now Fury has said no to the rematch clause. This whole situation is getting unbearable to watch unfold. Ffs

[DrDuke]

Now Fury has said no to the rematch clause. This whole situation is getting unbearable to watch unfold. Ffs

Cause Fury doesn't want 2 unmarketable fights in a row. After he deals with Usyk, he'll give another chance to Joshua, and this time Joshua will take a challenge, cause it's the undiputed championship.

[HomicideHenry]

Think your clutching a bit there, the fights meant to be 6 weeks away and all of a sudden he's putting risky demands in there, don't forget Fury already bailed out on the Klitschko rematch, tried to avoid the third Wilder fight while also stringing along Joshua and the public twice, how dare he be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Ali, Tyson and Lewis

I don't count Klitschko because he was clearly going off the rails. The third fight nobody wanted, Fury wanted that Joshua fight, but Wilder won arbitration.

As for Ali, Tyson and Lewis those men had their own shenanigans throughout their careers as well so let's not rewrite history. Regardless, I wonder if your tune would change if the fight does go down and Tyson fury actually beats Usyk.

Somehow I doubt it because that is the nature of this boxing website. The critics always say Fury will lose and if he wins people will say he was a steroid abusing cheat anyways so they never give him the props anyway.

I will say and have always said that the only way Tyson Fury could lose anybody is if Tyson Fury screwed his own self over. If he loses to the Ukrainian it will be because he fucked around too much in-between fights.

I hope to Jesus that the fight happens, and that Tyson Fury is truly properly ready and that all of this crap Is just mind games and all of you are just throwing a tantrum cause you bought into it hook line and sinker. Just like you guys buy into every antic or every word he ever says.

Just out of interest what shenanigans have you attached to Lewis? I don’t think Ali, Tyson and Lewis ever actively avoided challenging fights. There was nobody in the eras when they were at their peak that was frozen out or swerved. Bowe avoiding Lewis is really the only instance I can recall being a wasted match up. I mean at a stretch you could say Tyson and Holyfield fighting prior to jail, but they still put on some memorable fights later on. But here we have Fury seemingly reluctant to engage with any number of good fighters.

I think if Fury beats Usyk it’s great. Lots of credit! But let’s see some more - some round robins with Joyce and Joshua. Before he’s old and fat like John.

Lewis dumped the IBF belt, for example, for some great money making scheme in the hopes of facing Roy Jones. The idea was that Holyfield would beat Byrd, then Jones would fight Holyfield, then it'd set up a clash with Lennox Lewis. Unfortunately Byrd beat Holyfield. Jones wanted no part of Byrd, and the whole thing vaporized. Lewis, also, wanted no part of facing John Ruiz and the WBA title ended up being vacated and decided between Ruiz and Holyfield. Lewis, furthermore, wanted no part of a rematch with Vitali Klitschko despite being offered 45 million dollars to do so and unexpectedly retired.

Ali played tremendous mind games throughout his career. He avoided a fourth confrontation with Ken Norton and instead fought the novice Leon Spinks, and lost. Spinks refused to defend against Norton so the WBC title was taken off him. Ali regains the WBA title. Ali also never gave a rematch to Jimmy Young who clearly beat him, or rematched George Foreman. Throw in the ruckus with the black muslims and Sonny Liston apparently taking a dive in the rematch, etc. There was plenty of controversies with Ali.



Tyson's antics came in the 2nd part of his career following Buster Douglas. A soft road back to the title after prison. Hitting people after the bell, trying to break people's arms, the biting incident, etc. Any sort of illegal tactic to try to turn things his way. Him biting Lennox Lewis on the leg at the press conference, flipping out like a madman, retrospectively gave every impression like he wanted a way out of the fight even if he was desperate for the money. And as the video above shows Tyson paid Lewis $4 million to step aside so that Tyson could fight Bruce Seldon.

The whole general point is people seem to whitewash people's careers, forgetting all the drama and bullshit that went on before. None of these people were choir boys or heroes. If they could get an advantage in any way shape or form contractually, or psychologically, etc they did it.

And let's be honest there was a lot of fights that simply never got made in the nineties or the eighties or the seventies, Tyson never fought Bowe or Briggs or Foreman or Mercer, etc. for example. Fury is really only missing Joshua, Ruiz and Usyk. Joshua never fought Wilder or Fury, and Ruiz never fought Fury or Wilder or Usyk. Etc.

Before it's all said and done I'm sure there will be people who are disgruntled because 1 or 2 fights didn't happen. I'm reminded of people giving Rocky Marciano shit because of not fighting Floyd Patterson or Sonny Liston, never mind the fact that Floyd was basically unproven as a heavyweight at the time and Liston only had a handful of fights.

I think if Fury beats Usyk that basically clears him of having to fight anybody else. Why fight on? If you beat the man who beat Joshua, that Ruiz also defeated and lost to, you can make a strong argument that there's no point in Fury fighting them. Or Joyce, etc.

As a fan I would love to see Tyson Fury continue on boxing but to be honest I think a lot of the interest or desire of being the heavyweight champion has left him. He might fight once or twice after this if he wins, but I can't see it being anything major. Perhaps Ruiz because by then the WBC will force a mandatory. But then again it's a fight that don't make sense in England and Fury can't return to America.

So I think if Tyson Fury wins, he may very well retire. Then the belts are all on the line because they are vacant. So the whole undisputed thing was all short lived anyways. It'll become a fractured mess again, and perhaps Tyson Fury would launch another comeback just to say he was 4 time heavyweight champion knocking over somebody like Daniel Dubois.

Heck truth be told I think if Usyk won he'd retire. There is no other mountain to climb or reason to stay. The titles get fractured anyways. Perhaps a loss on Fury would only motivate him to get the Joshua fight and the Ruiz fight and the Joyce fight, as damage control to insist that he was overall the better heavyweight of his era by beating everyone else.

All I know is that the only man capable of beating the Ukrainian is Tyson Fury and the only man capable of beating Tyson Fury is the Ukrainian. But I think the road is a little harder for Tyson Fury only because Tyson Fury gets in the way of his own success (ie, health wise).

In a perfect world I would love to see Fury-Usyk, then Fury-Joshua and retire with Fury-Ruiz. Maybe a farewell in Britain with Joyce, but I don't know if Fury wants to really stay around in boxing. He's so up and down since the third Wilder fight that it's hard to guage.

[nmhz]

Do you honestly believe the first undisputed heavyweight fight in over 20 years at Wembley stadium is unmarketable?

Now Fury has said no to the rematch clause. This whole situation is getting unbearable to watch unfold. Ffs

Cause Fury doesn't want 2 unmarketable fights in a row. After he deals with Usyk, he'll give another chance to Joshua, and this time Joshua will take a challenge, cause it's the undiputed championship.

[HomicideHenry]

Do you honestly believe the first undisputed heavyweight fight in over 20 years at Wembley stadium is unmarketable?

Now Fury has said no to the rematch clause. This whole situation is getting unbearable to watch unfold. Ffs

Cause Fury doesn't want 2 unmarketable fights in a row. After he deals with Usyk, he'll give another chance to Joshua, and this time Joshua will take a challenge, cause it's the undiputed championship.

You would think it would be the biggest fight in the world but the reality is for whatever reason a Joshua fight with Fury would be bigger than this financially.

[DrDuke]

Do you honestly believe the first undisputed heavyweight fight in over 20 years at Wembley stadium is unmarketable?

Cause Fury doesn't want 2 unmarketable fights in a row. After he deals with Usyk, he'll give another chance to Joshua, and this time Joshua will take a challenge, cause it's the undiputed championship.

You would think it would be the biggest fight in the world but the reality is for whatever reason a Joshua fight with Fury would be bigger than this financially.

For the reason of Joshua's hype. Fury became marketable because of his promotional abilities. Joshua received his hype because of winning the hometown Olympics by the hometown decisions. Since then he has been hyped hard. He has been tracked by the strongest promotion in the World, while it's British. Usyk is more accomplished than these two, but he's unable to present himself to the foreign fans properly.

[nmhz]

I completely agree that AJ/Fury is a bigger draw, but to say Usyk/Fury is "unmarketable" is rediculous. Both fights would sell out Wembley easily

Do you honestly believe the first undisputed heavyweight fight in over 20 years at Wembley stadium is unmarketable?

Cause Fury doesn't want 2 unmarketable fights in a row. After he deals with Usyk, he'll give another chance to Joshua, and this time Joshua will take a challenge, cause it's the undiputed championship.

You would think it would be the biggest fight in the world but the reality is for whatever reason a Joshua fight with Fury would be bigger than this financially.

[tonyevs]

Gypsy Bobbins fantasizing over the Gypsy King once again. This truly is a love story for the ages ❤

Henry is clearly bonkers.

If he has the same opinion as you regarding boxing or a boxer then it's time to join a darts or snooker forum

Unfortunately it's looking more likely the fight on 29th April gets cancelled.
However - if fWank has already booked Wembley, where does that leave him financially??

[polecateddy]

I don't count Klitschko because he was clearly going off the rails. The third fight nobody wanted, Fury wanted that Joshua fight, but Wilder won arbitration.

As for Ali, Tyson and Lewis those men had their own shenanigans throughout their careers as well so let's not rewrite history. Regardless, I wonder if your tune would change if the fight does go down and Tyson fury actually beats Usyk.

Somehow I doubt it because that is the nature of this boxing website. The critics always say Fury will lose and if he wins people will say he was a steroid abusing cheat anyways so they never give him the props anyway.

I will say and have always said that the only way Tyson Fury could lose anybody is if Tyson Fury screwed his own self over. If he loses to the Ukrainian it will be because he fucked around too much in-between fights.

I hope to Jesus that the fight happens, and that Tyson Fury is truly properly ready and that all of this crap Is just mind games and all of you are just throwing a tantrum cause you bought into it hook line and sinker. Just like you guys buy into every antic or every word he ever says.

Just out of interest what shenanigans have you attached to Lewis? I don’t think Ali, Tyson and Lewis ever actively avoided challenging fights. There was nobody in the eras when they were at their peak that was frozen out or swerved. Bowe avoiding Lewis is really the only instance I can recall being a wasted match up. I mean at a stretch you could say Tyson and Holyfield fighting prior to jail, but they still put on some memorable fights later on. But here we have Fury seemingly reluctant to engage with any number of good fighters.

I think if Fury beats Usyk it’s great. Lots of credit! But let’s see some more - some round robins with Joyce and Joshua. Before he’s old and fat like John.

Lewis dumped the IBF belt, for example, for some great money making scheme in the hopes of facing Roy Jones. The idea was that Holyfield would beat Byrd, then Jones would fight Holyfield, then it'd set up a clash with Lennox Lewis. Unfortunately Byrd beat Holyfield. Jones wanted no part of Byrd, and the whole thing vaporized. Lewis, also, wanted no part of facing John Ruiz and the WBA title ended up being vacated and decided between Ruiz and Holyfield. Lewis, furthermore, wanted no part of a rematch with Vitali Klitschko despite being offered 45 million dollars to do so and unexpectedly retired.

Ali played tremendous mind games throughout his career. He avoided a fourth confrontation with Ken Norton and instead fought the novice Leon Spinks, and lost. Spinks refused to defend against Norton so the WBC title was taken off him. Ali regains the WBA title. Ali also never gave a rematch to Jimmy Young who clearly beat him, or rematched George Foreman. Throw in the ruckus with the black muslims and Sonny Liston apparently taking a dive in the rematch, etc. There was plenty of controversies with Ali.



Tyson's antics came in the 2nd part of his career following Buster Douglas. A soft road back to the title after prison. Hitting people after the bell, trying to break people's arms, the biting incident, etc. Any sort of illegal tactic to try to turn things his way. Him biting Lennox Lewis on the leg at the press conference, flipping out like a madman, retrospectively gave every impression like he wanted a way out of the fight even if he was desperate for the money. And as the video above shows Tyson paid Lewis $4 million to step aside so that Tyson could fight Bruce Seldon.

The whole general point is people seem to whitewash people's careers, forgetting all the drama and bullshit that went on before. None of these people were choir boys or heroes. If they could get an advantage in any way shape or form contractually, or psychologically, etc they did it.

And let's be honest there was a lot of fights that simply never got made in the nineties or the eighties or the seventies, Tyson never fought Bowe or Briggs or Foreman or Mercer, etc. for example. Fury is really only missing Joshua, Ruiz and Usyk. Joshua never fought Wilder or Fury, and Ruiz never fought Fury or Wilder or Usyk. Etc.

Before it's all said and done I'm sure there will be people who are disgruntled because 1 or 2 fights didn't happen. I'm reminded of people giving Rocky Marciano shit because of not fighting Floyd Patterson or Sonny Liston, never mind the fact that Floyd was basically unproven as a heavyweight at the time and Liston only had a handful of fights.

I think if Fury beats Usyk that basically clears him of having to fight anybody else. Why fight on? If you beat the man who beat Joshua, that Ruiz also defeated and lost to, you can make a strong argument that there's no point in Fury fighting them. Or Joyce, etc.

As a fan I would love to see Tyson Fury continue on boxing but to be honest I think a lot of the interest or desire of being the heavyweight champion has left him. He might fight once or twice after this if he wins, but I can't see it being anything major. Perhaps Ruiz because by then the WBC will force a mandatory. But then again it's a fight that don't make sense in England and Fury can't return to America.

So I think if Tyson Fury wins, he may very well retire. Then the belts are all on the line because they are vacant. So the whole undisputed thing was all short lived anyways. It'll become a fractured mess again, and perhaps Tyson Fury would launch another comeback just to say he was 4 time heavyweight champion knocking over somebody like Daniel Dubois.

Heck truth be told I think if Usyk won he'd retire. There is no other mountain to climb or reason to stay. The titles get fractured anyways. Perhaps a loss on Fury would only motivate him to get the Joshua fight and the Ruiz fight and the Joyce fight, as damage control to insist that he was overall the better heavyweight of his era by beating everyone else.

All I know is that the only man capable of beating the Ukrainian is Tyson Fury and the only man capable of beating Tyson Fury is the Ukrainian. But I think the road is a little harder for Tyson Fury only because Tyson Fury gets in the way of his own success (ie, health wise).

In a perfect world I would love to see Fury-Usyk, then Fury-Joshua and retire with Fury-Ruiz. Maybe a farewell in Britain with Joyce, but I don't know if Fury wants to really stay around in boxing. He's so up and down since the third Wilder fight that it's hard to guage.

I’m not dissecting all this but there was never any serious clamour for Lewis v Jones. Maybe Lewis didn’t actually fancy Bryd that much but surely would have easily beaten him. And what’s this all about Tyson v Mercer, Tyson v Briggs?! Is this stuff just in your head?

[Counter-puncher]

Is this stuff just in your head?

you need to ask?

[Ruthless-RKO]

[HomicideHenry]

Is this stuff just in your head?

you need to ask?

The whole point was people talking about matches that may or may not happen... There is many fights people could have had and never did for one reason or another... Or could have had fights a lot earlier than they did (ie, Mayweather vs Pacquiao) and yet I don't see any of those people getting anywhere near the criticism of Tyson Fury.

BTW, are you going to get that federal ID or not?

Or are your friends going to jump into the conversation again saying I'm the bully, and that no fight is going to happen, when the only people who said the fight wouldn't happened was everybody else but you.

Or are you just going to continue to troll and run your mouth and keep running from the question? You want to make fun of Tyson Fury but you yourself have no balls. I may have a screwed up neck and back but I would definitely get back into the ring to fight you.

I mean who the hell would run away from a guy who hasn't fought in 11 years with a screwed up neck and back? After all I'm the one who would be paying you to come on out to whip my ass. Easy as pie.

[Nightmare Roy]

Now Fury has said no to the rematch clause. This whole situation is getting unbearable to watch unfold. Ffs

Cause Fury doesn't want 2 unmarketable fights in a row. After he deals with Usyk, he'll give another chance to Joshua, and this time Joshua will take a challenge, cause it's the undiputed championship.

[Counter-puncher]

[big lennox]

Did anyone see Ian Darke's tweet yesterday? He wrote:

" Pretty clear Fury is ducking Uysk. Won't even accept 70 - 30 cut in his favour. Bad look."

Also, Al Bernstein tweeted:

[The Gratest]

I received applications from Ian Darke and Al Bernstein to join the Boxrec Knitting Circle. It's growing every day!
As is the poll in favour of an Usyk points win.

Boxing fans will turn on Tyson Fury if he sabotages the Usyk fight.