Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 May 2024, 20:15

Fury - Decision
66
27%
Fury - T/KO
36
15%
DRAW
16
7%
Usyk - T/KO
23
10%
Usyk - Decision
100
41%
 
Total votes: 241

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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

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Way too many emoji's. Someone's getting desperate and emotional. :stop:

Turned on Simon Cowell as well now. :o

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/ ... ore-target
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tonyevs wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:50
1194265 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:39
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:28 I’m embarrassed now. Turning on Simon Jordan, one of his biggest supporters… “no wonder you lost £100m”. He’s completely lost the plot.
Do you think he's stopped taking his meds?
We only have his word he was ever diagnosed - he certainly doesn't demonstrate as a person with bipolar disorder
He definitely has demonstrated symptoms typical with the condition.
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tigermoth87 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:38
Ezzard wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:33 I kind of suspect this is all nothing. I do not believe Fury is scared to fight.
Nah, I honestly think he's lost his bottle.
Really? A man who has been fighting for decades? I don't think so.
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mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:28 I’m embarrassed now. Turning on Simon Jordan, one of his biggest supporters… “no wonder you lost £100m”. He’s completely lost the plot.
He needs someone to get a grip of the situation and make him stay off social media and/or push the fight back. He’s at his best when he’s got his head down and is kept away from the nonsense.

Properly seems to have lost the plot.
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Ezzard wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:21
tigermoth87 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:38
Ezzard wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:33 I kind of suspect this is all nothing. I do not believe Fury is scared to fight.
Nah, I honestly think he's lost his bottle.
Really? A man who has been fighting for decades? I don't think so.
It's not being scared to fight, it's everything that comes with it. It's the fear of losing to someone he has belittled so much when the stakes are at their highest and all eyes are on him. It may be the fear of no longer having the drive to box if he does win which may see him spiral back down into drug and alcohol abuse. It may be that he doesn't believe in himself as much as he used to and has internal doubts. It may be the fear of losing belief in himself and think he's just a loud mouth old man like his dad if he isn't the undisputed champ and best of his era. He might be scared of becoming just a historical boxer rather than leaving the legacy he wants. There are many fears which he could be having leading up to a fight of this magnitude given his behaviour, his opposition and everything that's at stake. Nobody is saying that he's scared to throw a punch or take a punch, it's everything surrounding that. We saw what happened last time he reached what he believed was the pinnacle of the sport...
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maverick23 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:30
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:28 I’m embarrassed now. Turning on Simon Jordan, one of his biggest supporters… “no wonder you lost £100m”. He’s completely lost the plot.
He needs someone to get a grip of the situation and make him stay off social media and/or push the fight back. He’s at his best when he’s got his head down and is kept away from the nonsense.

Properly seems to have lost the plot.
Whatever Peter’s shortcomings as a trainer, there would have been none of this. Probably why he isn’t still around.
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mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:53
maverick23 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:30
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:28 I’m embarrassed now. Turning on Simon Jordan, one of his biggest supporters… “no wonder you lost £100m”. He’s completely lost the plot.
He needs someone to get a grip of the situation and make him stay off social media and/or push the fight back. He’s at his best when he’s got his head down and is kept away from the nonsense.

Properly seems to have lost the plot.
Whatever Peter’s shortcomings as a trainer, there would have been none of this. Probably why he isn’t still around.
Agreed.

I also wonder if Tyson having his dad around so much helps as whilst I think he’s very knowledgeable on certain things I also think his view on all things Tyson will be too biased.

Would help if Tyson could go out and train in the US. Assume the ban is still holding that up.
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:bag:
tonyevs wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:50
1194265 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:39
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:28 I’m embarrassed now. Turning on Simon Jordan, one of his biggest supporters… “no wonder you lost £100m”. He’s completely lost the plot.
Do you think he's stopped taking his meds?
We only have his word he was ever diagnosed - he certainly doesn't demonstrate as a person with bipolar disorder
I think you said this before (or someone on here did). Out of curiosity can you explain why please?
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maverick23 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:30
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:28 I’m embarrassed now. Turning on Simon Jordan, one of his biggest supporters… “no wonder you lost £100m”. He’s completely lost the plot.
He needs someone to get a grip of the situation and make him stay off social media and/or push the fight back. He’s at his best when he’s got his head down and is kept away from the nonsense.

Properly seems to have lost the plot.
I actually think the belly insult has strangely got to him. He can say he hasn't got insecurities but his weight probably is an insecurity. So a Ukrainian Bond Villian constantly talking down to him about it in the simple word 'belly' is bothering him. He's usually winning the mind games or trash talk but that isn't the case here. That and being in what might be a genuine 50-50 is bothering him. Going into Wilder, Whyte, Chisora he knew all he had to do was apply a blue print. This is a level skill contest
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He’s that off his head he even tagged Simon Cowell by accident when trying to type Simon Jordan…
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:14
maverick23 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:30
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:28 I’m embarrassed now. Turning on Simon Jordan, one of his biggest supporters… “no wonder you lost £100m”. He’s completely lost the plot.
He needs someone to get a grip of the situation and make him stay off social media and/or push the fight back. He’s at his best when he’s got his head down and is kept away from the nonsense.

Properly seems to have lost the plot.
I actually think the belly insult has strangely got to him. He can say he hasn't got insecurities but his weight probably is an insecurity. So a Ukrainian Bond Villian constantly talking down to him about it in the simple word 'belly' is bothering him. He's usually winning the mind games or trash talk but that isn't the case here. That and being in what might be a genuine 50-50 is bothering him. Going into Wilder, Whyte, Chisora he knew all he had to do was apply a blue print. This is a level skill contest
His weird obsession with Joshua's looks and body were clear signs that he is insecure about his appearance. He tried to own it by being the one to call himself fat and ugly but he may not be liking it now.
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mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:16 He’s that off his head he even tagged Simon Cowell by accident when trying to type Simon Jordan…
:lol: :lol:
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When are the adults going to step in with an intervention - trainer/manager/promoter - are they all just yes men now? Just let Fury get his head back together and plan a proper training camp. Do the fight in the autumn or something. We don’t really need another Oliver McCall - Lewis 2, with a mental breakdown in the boxing ring, do we?
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polecateddy wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:37 When are the adults going to step in with an intervention - trainer/manager/promoter - are they all just yes men now? Just let Fury get his head back together and plan a proper training camp. Do the fight in the autumn or something. We don’t really need another Oliver McCall - Lewis 2, with a mental breakdown in the boxing ring, do we?
The fighter is ultimately the boss and Tyson is well aware of this. Fwank will be absolutely seething in private. Fwank walked away from Naz for less but he was a lot stronger at the time.
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mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:16 He’s that off his head he even tagged Simon Cowell by accident when trying to type Simon Jordan…
Still doesn’t beat the time when he accidentally called out Lucy Bronze for a fight, instead of Wilder :lol:
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Fury isn't acting any more irrational than he usually does, it's just that there's a Ukrainian with 3 belts who wants to take his head off that's magnifying it, he's always spouting off on Twitter tagging wrong people with horrendous spelling, usually he's lorded as master of the mind games but coz Usyk isn't playing ball Fury looks the plum that he is, always has been and always will be
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mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:49
polecateddy wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:37 When are the adults going to step in with an intervention - trainer/manager/promoter - are they all just yes men now? Just let Fury get his head back together and plan a proper training camp. Do the fight in the autumn or something. We don’t really need another Oliver McCall - Lewis 2, with a mental breakdown in the boxing ring, do we?
The fighter is ultimately the boss and Tyson is well aware of this. Fwank will be absolutely seething in private. Fwank walked away from Naz for less but he was a lot stronger at the time.
Fwank was on Talk Sport yesterday saying the fight is almost done. Fury was on the other side of the country buying a used car.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:07 :bag:
tonyevs wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:50
1194265 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:39

Do you think he's stopped taking his meds?
We only have his word he was ever diagnosed - he certainly doesn't demonstrate as a person with bipolar disorder
I think you said this before (or someone on here did). Out of curiosity can you explain why please?
Every person will have times where they feel on top of the world, and times when they think life is sh1t. That's life.

When things significantly progress to impacting on your life then that's when a Doctor may look to give a diagnosis. There is a diagnosis criteria for lower level mood disorders like depression which I guess most of us would meet .. but for the more problematic but still lower level cyclothymia there would need to be quite significant evidence needed over something like a 2 year timeline .. as said - this would need to be quite significant. Something we have not seen from Tyson Fury.

To progress to full on diagnosis of bipolar is something else. There have been a couple ex boxers (and a father of a current boxer) demonstrating what an episode looks like. Fury most definitely has not demonstrated this ever.

It could be argued Fury demonstrates having EUPD more than bipolar. He appears to go to bits when things not going as he wants it too .. such as now when his bluff has been called and he sees his popularity plummet.
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mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:49
polecateddy wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:37 When are the adults going to step in with an intervention - trainer/manager/promoter - are they all just yes men now? Just let Fury get his head back together and plan a proper training camp. Do the fight in the autumn or something. We don’t really need another Oliver McCall - Lewis 2, with a mental breakdown in the boxing ring, do we?
The fighter is ultimately the boss and Tyson is well aware of this. Fwank will be absolutely seething in private. Fwank walked away from Naz for less but he was a lot stronger at the time.
I thought with Naz the contract ended and Naz went looking a promoter to give him the bigger slice of the cake
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 10:21
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:49
polecateddy wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:37 When are the adults going to step in with an intervention - trainer/manager/promoter - are they all just yes men now? Just let Fury get his head back together and plan a proper training camp. Do the fight in the autumn or something. We don’t really need another Oliver McCall - Lewis 2, with a mental breakdown in the boxing ring, do we?
The fighter is ultimately the boss and Tyson is well aware of this. Fwank will be absolutely seething in private. Fwank walked away from Naz for less but he was a lot stronger at the time.
I thought with Naz the contract ended and Naz went looking a promoter to give him the bigger slice of the cake
Maybe. I thought Fwank says he walked away.
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Tyson can't stay off the socials or stop coming across as obnoxious.

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1194265 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 10:02
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:49
polecateddy wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 09:37 When are the adults going to step in with an intervention - trainer/manager/promoter - are they all just yes men now? Just let Fury get his head back together and plan a proper training camp. Do the fight in the autumn or something. We don’t really need another Oliver McCall - Lewis 2, with a mental breakdown in the boxing ring, do we?
The fighter is ultimately the boss and Tyson is well aware of this. Fwank will be absolutely seething in private. Fwank walked away from Naz for less but he was a lot stronger at the time.
Fwank was on Talk Sport yesterday saying the fight is almost done. Fury was on the other side of the country buying a used car.
Been saying that for ages, same with the Joshua fight. It's just a farce now, sign the contract and fight or retire
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Tyson can't stay off the socials or stop coming across as obnoxious. 'Rule Britania' in his England top :roll:

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mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:53
maverick23 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:30
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 07:28 I’m embarrassed now. Turning on Simon Jordan, one of his biggest supporters… “no wonder you lost £100m”. He’s completely lost the plot.
He needs someone to get a grip of the situation and make him stay off social media and/or push the fight back. He’s at his best when he’s got his head down and is kept away from the nonsense.

Properly seems to have lost the plot.
Whatever Peter’s shortcomings as a trainer, there would have been none of this. Probably why he isn’t still around.
I like Peter, seems a smart man with a level head but can't see him standing for all the nonsense and BS.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023? - icons he's talking about you - you u**y b**t*rd lol.

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quickeyg wrote: 14 Mar 2023, 08:05 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


All the haters - F you he said because he's getting 70 percent :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

DISSES Usyk lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
DISSES Simon Jordan :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just makes him look more of a nob, talk sport have been up Fury's bunghole for as far as I can remember, they finally gave him a bit of well deserved criticism and he loses it. Thin skinned much.
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