Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023

Who wins?

Poll ended at 01 Apr 2023, 06:44

Joshua - Decision
13
22%
Joshua - T/KO
38
63%
DRAW
1
2%
Franklin - T/KO
4
7%
Franklin - Decision
4
7%
 
Total votes: 60

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 02 Mar 2023, 11:56
mickey1975 wrote: 02 Mar 2023, 11:36
keithmoonhangover wrote: 02 Mar 2023, 10:24

I agree that Whyte is shot, but two British boxers in a high profile fight sells. Always has, always will.
Lewis v Bruno didn’t.
It sold plenty of tickets. This is a different era though, where fights like Froch-Groves II can ram a stadium, because of a controversial stoppage. AJ-Whyte will shift plenty of tickets because it has a storyline.
What’s the storyline? Busted Flush who lost his last 2 fights against a middleweight fights overweight fat nobody who lost his last fight to a shot never was?
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JamesPhilips wrote: 02 Mar 2023, 13:28
keithmoonhangover wrote: 02 Mar 2023, 11:56
mickey1975 wrote: 02 Mar 2023, 11:36
Lewis v Bruno didn’t.
It sold plenty of tickets. This is a different era though, where fights like Froch-Groves II can ram a stadium, because of a controversial stoppage. AJ-Whyte will shift plenty of tickets because it has a storyline.
What’s the storyline? Busted Flush who lost his last 2 fights against a middleweight fights overweight fat nobody who lost his last fight to a shot never was?
Joshua is a former two time, three belt world champion with plenty of wins over guys who were in the top five when he beat them. If calling him a busted flush make you happy, then so be it.
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Unsurprisingly sold next to no stadium tickets.
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Tickets Not Selling

Anthony Joshua’s fight against Jermaine Franklin on April 1 at the O2 Arena in London has “thousands” of unsold tickets, according to Gareth A. Davies. Things are starting to look desperate.

There’s concern that the Joshua-Franklin fight won’t sell out, which could signal that Joshua’s star power is beginning to fade after two consecutive defeats and three losses in his last five contests. Eddie Hearn may need to work his magic to get the tickets to sell.

Gareth believes that the fans are reacting to being disappointed with Joshua vs. Tyson Fury fight not happening last year. That’s the one that the boxing world wanted to see, particularly fans in the UK.

After that big letdown, British fans, not surprisingly, are less than eager to purchase tickets to watch Joshua fight the American Franklin, who is coming off a loss to Dillian Whyte last November at the Wembley Arena.

In hindsight, Joshua should have picked another opponent like Whyte, Joe Joyce of Deontay Wilder instead of Franklin.

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He's learning from Spence..

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Garcia released one as well saying he wanted to leave camp in the first week.
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mickey1975 wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 07:52 Garcia released one as well saying he wanted to leave camp in the first week.
I read that Robert Garcia Wanted To Leave Joshua Camp In First Week: “I’m Not Lying”
, it's quite clear Joshua has a huge ego and likes things his way during camp.

Garcia obviously felt Joshua turned up when he wanted and stopped sparring when he got tired. Be very interesting to see if James can bring the dog out of him again.

I can't see how this fight against Franklin sells out (you can guarantee Matchroom will make sure the place is full though), and Hearn has said on numerous occasions that AJ "could fill a stadium against anybody". Tickets for mid tier are £300... you'd have to be mad to pay that.
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bedreamin wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 12:16
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 07:52 Garcia released one as well saying he wanted to leave camp in the first week.
I read that Robert Garcia Wanted To Leave Joshua Camp In First Week: “I’m Not Lying”
, it's quite clear Joshua has a huge ego and likes things his way during camp.

Garcia obviously felt Joshua turned up when he wanted and stopped sparring when he got tired. Be very interesting to see if James can bring the dog out of him again.

I can't see how this fight against Franklin sells out (you can guarantee Matchroom will make sure the place is full though), and Hearn has said on numerous occasions that AJ "could fill a stadium against anybody". Tickets for mid tier are £300... you'd have to be mad to pay that.
There's not very many ranked heavyweights training properly these days - Joshua is definitely in his silk pyjamas phase of his career. Fury trains in the pancake-flat backwater that is Morecambe Bay. Whyte looks soft and uninterested, as do a number of other heavies. I can only see Joyce and Usyk doing the hard graft!
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bedreamin wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 12:16
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 07:52 Garcia released one as well saying he wanted to leave camp in the first week.
I read that Robert Garcia Wanted To Leave Joshua Camp In First Week: “I’m Not Lying”
, it's quite clear Joshua has a huge ego and likes things his way during camp.

Garcia obviously felt Joshua turned up when he wanted and stopped sparring when he got tired. Be very interesting to see if James can bring the dog out of him again.

I can't see how this fight against Franklin sells out (you can guarantee Matchroom will make sure the place is full though), and Hearn has said on numerous occasions that AJ "could fill a stadium against anybody". Tickets for mid tier are £300... you'd have to be mad to pay that.
I think going exclusively to an online streaming platform has really shown how much easier it is to promote when you're on sky. Not exactly rocket science but think hearn was believing his own hype.

Warren went down the swanny for quite a while after leaving sky, whilst hearn was in the ascendency. Could history be repeating with hearn and boxxer?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023

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Joshua on Franklin: "In Terms of Talent, You Can't Deny the Man; Popularity Doesn't Win Fights"

“Here’s the thing, because Whyte’s popular doesn’t mean that he’s gonna win,” Joshua told Ade Oladipo on The DAZN Boxing Show. “Popularity doesn’t win fights. Jermaine Franklin is a fighter. Whether you know of him that’s your own research and how much you invest into research and the whole business. But in terms of talent, you can’t deny the man (Franklin). When a man turns up in that ring to fight, he’s coming to fight you and take your head off. That’s what he tried to do with Dillian.”

“Whether we expect more from Dillian, I feel like you should not underestimate your opponent," Joshua said. "Even though we expect so much from Dillian, let’s not put his opponent down here because his opponent is still worthy enough to step into the ring with him.”
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The promotion of this is dire.

Normally, we’re so used to seeing AJ plastered all over Sky Sports. Whether it’s the news, in between program schedules, ads etc..

Right now.. nothing.

Where’s the promotion?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 19:31 The promotion of this is dire.

Normally, we’re so used to seeing AJ plastered all over Sky Sports. Whether it’s the news, in between program schedules, ads etc..

Right now.. nothing.

Where’s the promotion?
Its hard to promote AJ vs franklin fighting for nothing, both coming off losses....thats why i dont understand the choice...

AJ vs Whyte its brittish beef, you throw the highlights of the first fight all over the internet, you get a clip of both shit talking the other saying they are finnished and there going to take the others head off, and it sells itself... Also Whyte pretty chinny in my opinion, i think AJ does him in 3 rounds or less (if he dosent get caught first)... So it would be easy to build and a high chance of a highlight KO quicker than Fury. would have AJ right back in the mix.

Only Way that makes sense to me is they wanna do AJ vs whyte in july or august in a stadium but they will need smooth sailing vs franklin to do that.. Also if they cant sell out the O2 for this, are they really going to gamble a stadium on whyte vs AJ? (they should but might not be keen)
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Think the comment above , AJ training in silk pyjamas is a good one , its obvious his camp has been wrong his approach has been wrong , he's become more about buisness , image , and brand than boxer , a complete change is what he needed get rid of his camp of arse lickers , bring back Mckracken and go back to basics and start again , but obviously the rift with him and Mckracken has gone deep , so the next best thing and american trainer and get out of Britain , he seems to have done that , but personaly i don,t think he's given himself enough time , another 6-8 months with his new trainer should of been the go , But if he is going to come back now Franklin is the right choice , he's strong comes to fight and can box a bit , he'll see his future in lights and go for it , course the penelty for this sort of fight is going to be ticket sales , its never going to be a great seller , Opponent is'nt a big name , no SKY which is probably the biggest issue , and AJ is rebuilding but lets not forget AJ'S history and will which has been proven by his willingness to start again when he could say stuff it i'm gonna sit on the beach for the rest of my life proves he still has dsire to come again , if it does'nt work its time to pack it in and go sit on the beach , but at least he's showing more ambition to be great than some others .

Can think of one other heavyweight who if he had the balls to fight Ruiz , or Uzyk would just go cry and have another mental issue if / when he lost and the crazy thing is , he would probably win if he had the nuts to tesyt himself like AJ did
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Eddie Hearn Responds To Talk Of Poor Ticket Sales For Joshua Comeback

Eddie Hearn has defended ticket sales for Anthony Joshua’s upcoming comeback bout against Jermaine Franklin at the 02 next month.

Images have been circulating online recently that show plenty of tickets still available for the heavyweight clash on April 1st, a stark contrast to the days where ‘AJ’ would sell out Wembley and the Millennium Stadium in a matter of weeks.

However, Hearn insisted to ID Boxing that the London venue will be sold out on the night – before seemingly taking a pop at Tyson Fury his stalling in negotiations to face Oleksandr Usyk.

“We’ve got a couple of thousand left, we haven’t given tickets out yet for the undercard. We’ll be completely full on the night.”

“At the end of the day, do you want to listen to bull****, or do you want to see a real fighter?”

“You’ll see Anthony Joshua back in action, with vengeance, at the 02 on April 1st.”


Joshua was once arguably the biggest star in the in the sport, and has become accustomed to filling out football stadiums whenever he fights on British shores.

However, many feel his popularity went on a steady decline after his loss to Andy Ruiz Jr at Madison Square Garden, and has nosedived as a result of back to back defeats to Usyk

Next month’s meeting with Franklin is without question crucial for Joshua, as defeat would almost certainly spell an end to any ambitions he may have of becoming a three time world heavyweight champion.

The American gave a respectable account of himself in defeat to Dillian Whyte last November, however Joshua still goes into the contest as wide betting favourite, and will be looking to make a statement against the ‘989 Assassin.’

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If you want to go you may as well wait for the prices to plummet in the days before the fight or the give away competitions to win tickets.
Nobody would pay the advertised prices for this now
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Maybe dazn forcing people to stump up 100 quid for a year - primarily to get this as a non Ppv - has dulled the appetite for going in person to watch it
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 07:45 Tickets Not Selling

Anthony Joshua’s fight against Jermaine Franklin on April 1 at the O2 Arena in London has “thousands” of unsold tickets, according to Gareth A. Davies. Things are starting to look desperate.

There’s concern that the Joshua-Franklin fight won’t sell out, which could signal that Joshua’s star power is beginning to fade after two consecutive defeats and three losses in his last five contests. Eddie Hearn may need to work his magic to get the tickets to sell.

Gareth believes that the fans are reacting to being disappointed with Joshua vs. Tyson Fury fight not happening last year. That’s the one that the boxing world wanted to see, particularly fans in the UK.

After that big letdown, British fans, not surprisingly, are less than eager to purchase tickets to watch Joshua fight the American Franklin, who is coming off a loss to Dillian Whyte last November at the Wembley Arena.

In hindsight, Joshua should have picked another opponent like Whyte, Joe Joyce of Deontay Wilder instead of Franklin.

This was bound to happen when you dont have a powerhouse like Sky or BT behind you.
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Surprised that no further undercard fights have been announced yet.

I went "full British & Irish forum" and checked out the o2's website, where there appears to be plenty of tickets left.
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magnus wrote: 13 Mar 2023, 13:50 Surprised that no further undercard fights have been announced yet.

I went "full British & Irish forum" and checked out the o2's website, where there appears to be plenty of tickets left.
The ticket thing is true, what Eddie is saying is bollocks.
And they are probably scared to announce undercard fights because they will be as sh*t as the main event. How could they be decent if there isn't any money left in the pot with flagging ticket sales.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 13:14
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 07:45 Tickets Not Selling

Anthony Joshua’s fight against Jermaine Franklin on April 1 at the O2 Arena in London has “thousands” of unsold tickets, according to Gareth A. Davies. Things are starting to look desperate.

There’s concern that the Joshua-Franklin fight won’t sell out, which could signal that Joshua’s star power is beginning to fade after two consecutive defeats and three losses in his last five contests. Eddie Hearn may need to work his magic to get the tickets to sell.

Gareth believes that the fans are reacting to being disappointed with Joshua vs. Tyson Fury fight not happening last year. That’s the one that the boxing world wanted to see, particularly fans in the UK.

After that big letdown, British fans, not surprisingly, are less than eager to purchase tickets to watch Joshua fight the American Franklin, who is coming off a loss to Dillian Whyte last November at the Wembley Arena.

In hindsight, Joshua should have picked another opponent like Whyte, Joe Joyce of Deontay Wilder instead of Franklin.

This was bound to happen when you dont have a powerhouse like Sky or BT behind you.
I think it's more the opponent and AJ's recent results. A hard sell both coming of losses, no belts either.
I mean, in my view it isn't even main event material to have a 'confidence booster' fight topping the card.
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KiwiRider wrote: 13 Mar 2023, 15:54
Nightmare Roy wrote: 10 Mar 2023, 13:14
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 07:45 Tickets Not Selling

Anthony Joshua’s fight against Jermaine Franklin on April 1 at the O2 Arena in London has “thousands” of unsold tickets, according to Gareth A. Davies. Things are starting to look desperate.

There’s concern that the Joshua-Franklin fight won’t sell out, which could signal that Joshua’s star power is beginning to fade after two consecutive defeats and three losses in his last five contests. Eddie Hearn may need to work his magic to get the tickets to sell.

Gareth believes that the fans are reacting to being disappointed with Joshua vs. Tyson Fury fight not happening last year. That’s the one that the boxing world wanted to see, particularly fans in the UK.

After that big letdown, British fans, not surprisingly, are less than eager to purchase tickets to watch Joshua fight the American Franklin, who is coming off a loss to Dillian Whyte last November at the Wembley Arena.

In hindsight, Joshua should have picked another opponent like Whyte, Joe Joyce of Deontay Wilder instead of Franklin.

This was bound to happen when you dont have a powerhouse like Sky or BT behind you.
I think it's more the opponent and AJ's recent results. A hard sell both coming of losses, no belts either.
I mean, in my view it isn't even main event material to have a 'confidence booster' fight topping the card.
That's part of it but when you are a PPV fighter on sky it's constant promotion on the sports and news channels to a massive audience.
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Realistically, all it has is a former unified champ and missing everything else. It's missing promotion (DAZN over Sky), a proper opponent (only known for losing to Whyte), no belts on the line, momentum (both coming off a loss), value for money, and marketability (no history or big mouths). There is no wow factor which is enticing people to see it, especially when the undisputed fight is being discussed.
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Arms look bigger than ever
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