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Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Almost 50/50. Miller weathers the initial barrage from Whyte and then launches his own attack mid way through, just like tonight. Couldn't see Whyte lasting through that attack.
Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
I don't see Miller winning. The worst Whyte we have ever seen beats the Miller we saw tonight. Remember that was Lucas Browne against him in there
Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Yes, I get that.joshj909 wrote: ↑18 Mar 2023, 17:46I don't see Miller winning. The worst Whyte we have ever seen beats the Miller we saw tonight. Remember that was Lucas Browne against him in there
But Browne ain't no pillow fister and he was landing more flush shots than I've seen him throw and Miller took them all. Which makes me think Whyte would do the same. And could Whyte take that barrage in the penultimate round tonight?
I say no, he is too shot these days.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
browne's a good puncher, miller may just be so durable that he can pull a homer simpson and beat pretty much any hw who gasses
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Miller kos whyte the hype 
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Id give Miller a 30% chance v aj tbh. And im absolutely no miller fan. 
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Was also thinking that. great fight for a fit dave allen i think.KiwiRider wrote: ↑18 Mar 2023, 17:17Oh yeah!gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Mar 2023, 17:13 Jarrell miller is perfect for a solid prospect. Great chin, no Defence, and pillow fisted.
Big baby vs Big baby makes the most sense, would be a great step up (or step sideways)
DDD vs big baby for the WBA reg would be a pretty good fight for DDD i think.
Huni would be a good fight, mabey a bit tough on his hands...
Good fight for Fabio if he has nothing lined up for the brittish.
Big fraz clarke step up main event?
These guys should be screaming for it.
Even Dave Allen would be salivating at taking Miller's "0"
But out of your list, a good scalp for Anderson
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
miller would batter allen, why would anyone want dave to take that fight after he was taken to the hospital after price and almost fainting in sparring. he shouldnt be boxing anymore
come on now folks, miller isnt somehow just an english title level fighter now
come on now folks, miller isnt somehow just an english title level fighter now
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
I thought miller looked seriously shit in there.... And honestly he looked sub english tonight... But his chin is HOF.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Mar 2023, 18:33 miller would batter allen, why would anyone want dave to take that fight after he was taken to the hospital after price and almost fainting in sparring
come on now folks, miller isnt somehow just an english title level fighter now
-Id back 2021 Fabio to beat him(the last english champ)
- id back 2023 dacres to 100-90 him (probably the next english champ)...
-2018 DDD the english champ to batter him.
-english champ version of Fury and price were better than tonights miller.
He just lost 3 or 4 rounds to 43 year old Lucus brown, and 9 months ago he went close over 10 with bracamonte.... Based on that Its hard for me to think that post drug ban miller has shown himself as well above english title levle....
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
i think you're seriously underestimating him, an anvil chin and being able to apply that steady pressure at 300+ pounds will sink most guys, let alone the ones you are mentioning. wardley had a war with eric molina ffs, the same version who's been flopping to everyone else. you were big upping browne before the fight and miller just took him out, so not sure why so over the top negative
allen shouldnt even be boxing, to think miller is a good fight for him is nuts. the david price that schooled him and sent him to hospital couldnt even beat chris hammer's pressure or last 4 with delboy, no chance he would've beat miller
dacares hasnt fought anyone remotely in miller's league, just beat up on a pub nobody tonight who is probably 400th in the world. we have no idea how we'd react react to that pressure each round.
im doubtful miller's stopped using anyway btw
allen shouldnt even be boxing, to think miller is a good fight for him is nuts. the david price that schooled him and sent him to hospital couldnt even beat chris hammer's pressure or last 4 with delboy, no chance he would've beat miller
dacares hasnt fought anyone remotely in miller's league, just beat up on a pub nobody tonight who is probably 400th in the world. we have no idea how we'd react react to that pressure each round.
im doubtful miller's stopped using anyway btw
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Miller fukin smashes any of those 3 or 4 guys mentioned. It might not be pretty but it will end 1 way fukin hell like 
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
hey let's just throw out any completely random name, they'll beat miller too!
johnny fisher and that italian he beat last week would take him out as well, maybe even phil williams
johnny fisher and that italian he beat last week would take him out as well, maybe even phil williams
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
I Ageewatsupdoc87 wrote: ↑18 Mar 2023, 18:49 Miller fukin smashes any of those 3 or 4 guys mentioned. It might not be pretty but it will end 1 way fukin hell like![]()
Miller might look like crap but he is effective.
I have him in my top 15 right now
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
I was big upping browns results And he can whack… but mainly cause I like him hahah… but I think losing rounds to him is pretty bad (at top level) Miller only started winning when brown was gassed which doesn’t take much. It’s a decent win no doubt, but tonight’s version of miller even with the chin and the pressure is hardly leagues ahead of previous English champs.
Dave Allen beat bracamonte and brown better than miller did. That’s the on only real evidence on after drug ban millers level…
Dave Allen beat bracamonte and brown better than miller did. That’s the on only real evidence on after drug ban millers level…
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
dave allen wasnt good enough to beat lenroy thompson, couldnt win a round vs david price or tony yoka, blacked out and then tried sparring again and felt ill. he shouldnt even be fighting and even hearn wouldnt touch him anymore. miller would pound him.
miller always starts slow, he gives away the first round or two often, he is all about steadily applying that pressure and breaking people down. browne can seriously punch and milled walked through him like he was pillow fisted, to act like everyone and their grandma would beat miller now is ridiciulous
i mean david price would've schooled miller? chris hammer's pressure was too much for price, erkan tepper splatted him in 2, etc
dacares has like what, 5 fights, only been 8 rounds, against no one in the world's top 100. fraser clarke never been more than 6 rounds.
miller has never been seriously troubled by any opponent. ya he's a slob, but he's very effective to a certain level, and that is well beyond these guys you are throwing around. what's next, soko beating him? and like i said, i doubt he's gonna be fully off the peds anyway
miller always starts slow, he gives away the first round or two often, he is all about steadily applying that pressure and breaking people down. browne can seriously punch and milled walked through him like he was pillow fisted, to act like everyone and their grandma would beat miller now is ridiciulous
i mean david price would've schooled miller? chris hammer's pressure was too much for price, erkan tepper splatted him in 2, etc
dacares has like what, 5 fights, only been 8 rounds, against no one in the world's top 100. fraser clarke never been more than 6 rounds.
miller has never been seriously troubled by any opponent. ya he's a slob, but he's very effective to a certain level, and that is well beyond these guys you are throwing around. what's next, soko beating him? and like i said, i doubt he's gonna be fully off the peds anyway
Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Browne was knocked out in one round against a rugby player. Was stopped in 3 by domestic level Allen. Was robbed against Sokolowski. He was on a good run but he doesn't have the success and take those rounds off any of the top 25 like he did against Miller. A better boxer will win those rounds and continue to avoid getting hit as much, will then go on to win on the cards. They might not KO him clean but they can beat him on the cards and I could also see him folding due to exhaustion.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
browne took a dive against gallen, it wasnt a good acting job either, at one point he literally throws himself backward when no punches land
miller will be beaten, but it will be someone much better than english title level opponents and novices who've only gone 6-8 rounds vs piddly opposition. he often lost the first round or two even when he was in the prime of his hype and initial run, it's not a big deal really because he has a long game, impose himself gradually style. he won everything after the 2nd vs browne too
im convinced some people want dave allen to be seriously injured. this is a guy who blacked out after losing every round to price, then beaten into illness in sparring. hearn even got too worried to work with him anymore. no one should want him to box on, let alone for him to box a guy like miller. if he incurred a serious brain injury no one could say they didnt see it coming
miller will be beaten, but it will be someone much better than english title level opponents and novices who've only gone 6-8 rounds vs piddly opposition. he often lost the first round or two even when he was in the prime of his hype and initial run, it's not a big deal really because he has a long game, impose himself gradually style. he won everything after the 2nd vs browne too
im convinced some people want dave allen to be seriously injured. this is a guy who blacked out after losing every round to price, then beaten into illness in sparring. hearn even got too worried to work with him anymore. no one should want him to box on, let alone for him to box a guy like miller. if he incurred a serious brain injury no one could say they didnt see it coming
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
I think your remembering pre ban miller too much.
-after ban miller went close with bracamonte... Who dacres didnt lose a round to, and big fraz stopped in 2, and dempsy mckean clean sheeted, and dave allen retired.
-He stopped also someone who is very very low levle and had been stopped early 3 times in 2021... almost meaningless...
-he went to war with lucus brown, got there in the end, its a decent win no doubt, Big Daddy has some real power, and millers chin proved to be exceptional, but lucus is 43 and only really started to lose once he was gassed... Big daddy got well stopped by allen nearly 4 years ago.
Ultimently we are far apart on our assessment of miller.... Do i think he can get back to being decent, mabey, but based on what iv seen since the ban he has not proven himself to be definitively above (or bellow) english levle. and honestly he hasnt proven himself a sure thing vs Soko hahaha.
Hopefully he is in with someone that isnt charr next so we can get some clarity.
-after ban miller went close with bracamonte... Who dacres didnt lose a round to, and big fraz stopped in 2, and dempsy mckean clean sheeted, and dave allen retired.
-He stopped also someone who is very very low levle and had been stopped early 3 times in 2021... almost meaningless...
-he went to war with lucus brown, got there in the end, its a decent win no doubt, Big Daddy has some real power, and millers chin proved to be exceptional, but lucus is 43 and only really started to lose once he was gassed... Big daddy got well stopped by allen nearly 4 years ago.
Ultimently we are far apart on our assessment of miller.... Do i think he can get back to being decent, mabey, but based on what iv seen since the ban he has not proven himself to be definitively above (or bellow) english levle. and honestly he hasnt proven himself a sure thing vs Soko hahaha.
Hopefully he is in with someone that isnt charr next so we can get some clarity.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
he beat bracomnte easily after FOUR years out of action, he ground down browne and busted him up after giving away the first two rounds, he still has an anvil chin and applies that steady pressure and size..........you guys are going way overboard on how much he sucks
allen, clarke, dacares.......it sounds like you're just picking names out of a hat. pro novices who've never boxed anyone, guys who've only gone 6-8, a guy who no major promoter will work with because he blacks out and faints. david price couldnt handle chris hammer's pressure, but would've beat miller 100-90? what are you smoking man!
allen, clarke, dacares.......it sounds like you're just picking names out of a hat. pro novices who've never boxed anyone, guys who've only gone 6-8, a guy who no major promoter will work with because he blacks out and faints. david price couldnt handle chris hammer's pressure, but would've beat miller 100-90? what are you smoking man!
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
Post ban miller and the guys mentioned have common opponents (4 times).... Miller did worse than them in very single instance.
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Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
miller beat them all easily...........even the comeback fight after 4 years out. he's also been more than 6-8 rounds, he's actually fought and beat other contenders and fringe contenders to build experience, and he also doesn't collapse and get rushed to the hospital after his bouts. nor is he a physically and mentally fragile flower like price, who somehow couldnt last with chris hammer but shuts out miller according to you
do you know what's gone on with dave allen? do you want him to die or something?
how much longer until johnny fisher gets added to the list
do you know what's gone on with dave allen? do you want him to die or something?
how much longer until johnny fisher gets added to the list
Re: Jarrell Miller vs. Lucas Browne | ProBox TV - March 18, 2023
I think Jared Anderson could out point Miller over 10.
Miller is so slow and easy to hit, a young lion like Anderson would move out of the slow telegraphed shots coming from Miller, and keep him on the end of his jab whilst firing at will and winning rounds.
Miller was utter crap, off the juice he is what he looks like - a slow, fat, predictable lump of lard.
Stopping grandpa Browne is British level stuff.
Miller is so slow and easy to hit, a young lion like Anderson would move out of the slow telegraphed shots coming from Miller, and keep him on the end of his jab whilst firing at will and winning rounds.
Miller was utter crap, off the juice he is what he looks like - a slow, fat, predictable lump of lard.
Stopping grandpa Browne is British level stuff.