Is Devin Haney weak on the inside ?

[Evander]

How do you rank his inside game ?
Seems most of his work is from the outside.

[gregregegg]

Well he lacks power but has good speed and has welterweight-ish reach... also mabey a bit chinny (maabey)... The inside isnt his world.

Haney is probably the best 135er at long range, so if he can keep it there why would he change it.

If loma can get to the inside hany should grab on and drag his head down... cause lomas lil side shifts and t-rex arms can be punnishing in close.

[AlexCayWalt]

I would say he's okay. Not a master of inside but he's okay. He looks more versatile than Teofimo.

[Bandog]

No. Not as good as Loma, but has excellent footwork and skills in close.

[KiwiRider]

Does he even need to be on the inside?
There isn't any top level inside fighters in the division that stand out to me.
Loma is more of an angles guy, Kambosos has a bit of inside game, but nothing special. And Davis is too protected to be risked against Haney, and he needs a bit of room to do his work.
Cruz can dig on the inside, but again, I think Haney has the footwork and movement to keep on the outside.

It's for sure an interesting question, but maybe I'm missing who can actually test it?

[AngryGoon38]

Haney vs Prograis or Taylor or Catteral would all be Very interesting bouts imo. Especially the first two who have especially strong inside fighting capabilities. Catteral would still be a very challenging opponent though.

Loma is too small. He will make a darned good effort and have his moments but Haney's size advantages will be his
Saving grace versus the very skilled but very outsized Ukrainian.

[emallini]

He ties up when someone gets inside.

[AngryGoon38]

He ties up when someone gets inside.

I can definitely see Haney utilizing that particular defensive tactic versus the highly skilled but much too outsized Ukrainian Loma. Too bad Vasily didn't just stay at 130. At that weight he would've been the only truly formidable challenge for Shakur Stevenson. And also, a very entertaining and highly promoted showdown versus Inoue could've been eventually worked out/scheduled.

[Evander]

Loma is too small.

That's coming up time and time again.
Even if he get's to the inside will he be physically able to stay and dominate there.

[gilgamesh]

Loma is too small.

That's coming up time and time again.
Even if he get's to the inside will he be physically able to stay and dominate there.

I don't think his lack of size will be the issue so much as his aging, and a lack of speed that may come with that. If he's still as fast and his timing as good as ever. He'll put up a hell of a fight still yet.

If he's begun to slip, it'll show in a major way because his speed and technique was his whole game. Without the speed he's just a normal guy.

[KiwiRider]

Loma is too small.

That's coming up time and time again.
Even if he get's to the inside will he be physically able to stay and dominate there.

I don't think his lack of size will be the issue so much as his aging, and a lack of speed that may come with that. If he's still as fast and his timing as good as ever. He'll put up a hell of a fight still yet.

If he's begun to slip, it'll show in a major way because his speed and technique was his whole game. Without the speed he's just a normal guy.

Can we not give Loma a bit of credit for his power and footwork?
Sure his power is not game changing, but when he lands a power shot flush, its pretty respectable. And his footwork is excellent, that alone can help keep him out of trouble.
Yes he has lost some speed as to be expected, but like Manny, he has other attributes that can help keep him in the game longer.

[Evander]

Size
Haney is priming.
Lomachenko is the better boxer.
If Lomachenko has a bit more in the tank and plays it properly he has it in him to outplay Haney.
Age difference is a big obstacle.

[franciscojavier]

I’ve seen Haney-Floyd comparisons but I think of him more like Winky Wright in that he’s so dominant almost on his jab alone, that jab is insane. Some people thought before the first fight that Kambosos would rough him up but he never got the chance eating those sharp jabs and solid right hands as well. It’s probably too soon to tell if he’s good on the inside, because he’s dominated most opponents(Linares was the only one I’ve seen give him a real challenge), but if I had to guess he’s at least average or somewhat above average.

[scallum]

Probably avg on inside but he can just tie up and stay on outside. Imo he is the best fighter on the outside at 135

[adislav123]

excellent boxer but soft like a melting shit biscuit on the inside. cries all the time bout stupid shit in movies.

cried like a baby for hours last friday when he picked up the ending of the 1980 john voight (that on the other hand is a real tuff mofo, never ever cries in real life) movie 'the champ' with Ricky Schroeder.

again, great athlete, masterful boxer but what a crybaby. supersofty. defo 'weak on the inside'.

[Evander]

Lomachenko may get marked up but has it in him to get passed Haney.
Look at Haney, it's all done on the outside look at him.
Kambosos 1 and 2 he was exactly the same.
Haney doesn't like the inside and has problems when his power wanes on the inside.
He doesn't have inside skills, he has the early power though

[Evander]

Probably avg on inside but he can just tie up and stay on outside. Imo he is the best fighter on the outside at 135

What's his accuracy hit rate with punches on the outside ?
Give or take.
I'm going to review his last half dozen or so bouts and see what I can come up with.

[Cent0089]

Fans overrate Lomachenko boxing skills and underrate his strength and punching power IMO.

[Evander]

Lomachenko made his name off of boxing skills, look at how he's progressed a a pro.
Maybe he's at the point you say and are suggesting his strength and power are his last resorts.

[Cent0089]

Lomachenko made his name off of boxing skills, look at how he's progressed a a pro.
Maybe he's at the point you say and are suggesting his strength and power are his last resorts.

Of course his boxing skills are insane, but dont think he is going to outbox Haney. He must hurt him and bully him or something like that if he want to win this. But Haney is HUGE so i really dont know man

[caldo2025]

Lol. Is Haney weak in the least? Lol. Let’s not get crazy here. The kid is F’ng fantastic and an absolute dynamo. So much so that he’s as confident a kid could be going in against one of the best fighters we’ve all seen in the last 7 years. I’ll be honest, I’m scared at how confident he is against Loma. If I’m anyone, I’m scared of what Loma could possibly do to make me look dumber than I am. This kid is going to put Loma in the shed and though I’m not happy about it, it’s kinda cool how good he could be to do’s it.

[Evander]

Lomachenko made his name off of boxing skills, look at how he's progressed a a pro.
Maybe he's at the point you say and are suggesting his strength and power are his last resorts.

Of course his boxing skills are insane, but dont think he is going to outbox Haney. He must hurt him and bully him or something like that if he want to win this. But Haney is HUGE so i really dont know man

Your right, it's a big obstacle for Lomachenko to overcome.
But unless he can outbox Haney from the outside which is possible, he's going to be forced into the inside which means just like you say, he must hurt him or bully him.
I lean more toward the bullying him strategically, not easy but possible.
Haney is almost priming, I'm sure his corner will know the options available to Lomachenko and act accordingly, if that's how they approach then yes Lomachenko will have to do something to breakthrough.
Just hard to imagine Lomachenko will get backed up all night through Haney's jab, I think Lomachenko is a lot smarter than that.

[Evander]

22 days out.
How big can Haney possibly be if they're weighing in within a pound or two if that
Is the size of them being overplayed ?

[gregregegg]

22 days out.
How big can Haney possibly be if they're weighing in within a pound or two if that
Is the size of them being overplayed ?

I won’t ufc 270 Cody Stamann fought at 135 and entered the ring at 159…. So judging of that 22 days out Stamann probably weighed mid 160s and made 135…

That’s about the limit of what’s practically possible.

So you could have a man that in fighting shape weighs 165 vs a man that in fighting shape weighs 145ish… 20lb difference is basicaly going up 3 or 4 weight classes at that weight.

That’s how big a difference in weight there could be, how big a difference in weight there will be..: harder to say. But it will be significant.

[Evander]

22 days out.
How big can Haney possibly be if they're weighing in within a pound or two if that
Is the size of them being overplayed ?

I won’t ufc 270 Cody Stamann fought at 135 and entered the ring at 159…. So judging of that 22 days out Stamann probably weighed mid 160s and made 135…

That’s about the limit of what’s practically possible.

So you could have a man that in fighting shape weighs 165 vs a man that in fighting shape weighs 145ish… 20lb difference is basicaly going up 3 or 4 weight classes at that weight.

That’s how big a difference in weight there could be, how big a difference in weight there will be..: harder to say. But it will be significant.

Tell me something I don't know.