Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[tony1234]

Sorry, 4 weeks is long enough for the event to sell out and for people to purchase their tickets and organise travel, etc, it only takes 1 day to buy your ticket and book a hotel and your travel if you need to. If the fight is to be held in the UK then it will sell out within 24 hours, so no need to rely on international fans. Remember these promoters are not worried about the fans.

Even if the fight is announced will people trust it will actually take place on the given date knowing past history ?

[Frostieballs]

F W on talkSPORT now.

Seems the problem is over agreeing terms for the rematch.

Win or lose, Fury camp still want the bigger share. Usual lines - ‘he’s the draw, he’s the ticket seller’ blah blah

This is defo not staged btw, F W sounds like smoke coming out his ears.

Hang on…. Usyk promoter coming on now!!

Krassyuk came on, said he didn’t blame F W.

Played a very straight bat - said they are both just representing fighters and they simply couldn’t get the terms to match.

Seems like a decent guy. Decent radio.

They both said they were going to talk again now.

[olij999]

I am pretty disappointed.

As much as I love Tyson Fury and believe him to be the best heavyweight in the world, the only blame there can be is on him. I think he simply wasn't ready, and Dereck Chisora was hardly good preparation for a fight of that magnitude.

You will never lose face with the public if you are honest. He should have said he needed more time or he needed a proper tune up before Usyk. Had he said that people would have given him respect on it, and it would have been understandable.

I don't think he needs to be stripped of the WBC but he should be forced to fight Andy Ruiz the #2 ranked heavyweight since Wilder is in negotiations to fight Francis Ngannou in Africa or Saudi Arabia. Tyson Fury has done a lot of damage to himself and his image and only proper fights will rectify the situation.

Ruiz> Joshua> Usyk needs to be the goal and those 2 men would be proper preparation for the task at hand, and give Fury more than enough time to be ready for Usyk. 2023 needs to be all about rebuilding the brand and the trust of boxing fans.

And if Tyson Fury is not willing to do that then he needs to dump the WBC belt and just be honest and say that he wants to have a career where he does what he wants to do, not proving anything to anyone except himself, and just campaign as lineal champion.

But if he does that he needs to be completely aware that he will give up any and all rights to be asking for 50/50 or 60/40 or 70/30 for anybody of consequence because he willingly took himself out of the dance.

What a mess.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

A very honest and balanced post. One of the best of the year so far.

[golden_labrador]

I'm a Fury fan but if this fight doesn't happen it's because team Fury didn't want it. To be outboxed and beaten would be a stain. Much worse than being knocked out. And there's the big risk Usyk will outbox him

[polecateddy]

It’s weird, I remember Usyk debut at heavyweight against a semi-retired Witherspoon, where he’d been okay, if a bit under-powdered and even uncomfortable for a little bit when Witherspoon connected. Now I guess he’s established as the best small heavyweight since Chris Byrd. I had a rewatch of Byrd outpointing an in-shape David Tua recently. Serious skill on display by the American! Looks now like Usyk v Joyce is where it’s at. Forget Andy Ruiz. I think there’s always potential that both Usyk and Ruiz are flattered by the mirage that is Anthony Joshua these days. Joyce will be the proper test.

[HomicideHenry]

Warren insists it's still possible to be made.

Jesus willing it could happen before April 1st before the WBA forces Daniel Dubois. Boxing has always been a sport that has made me a cynic when it comes to making the big fights. Very seldom does it ever happen without a hitch.

[Steveh583]

I’m a huge fury fan, but there’s simply no excuse. He’s shat himself. Clearly intimidated by Usyk. Knows his mind games aren’t gonna work, and terrified of being outboxed.

[Nightmare Roy]

Warren insists it's still possible to be made.

Jesus willing it could happen before April 1st before the WBA forces Daniel Dubois. Boxing has always been a sport that has made me a cynic when it comes to making the big fights. Very seldom does it ever happen without a hitch.

FW doing his best to shift the blame but he knows what's what. Inside he must be furious with Tyson.

[Monzon83]

I'll say it again, the entire Fury family are a stain on boxing.

The sooner they are out of the sport the better.

[polecateddy]

I’m a huge fury fan, but there’s simply no excuse. He’s shat himself. Clearly intimidated by Usyk. Knows his mind games aren’t gonna work, and terrified of being outboxed.

That’s it - he’s visualising losing nearly every round against the much sharper Usyk. Perhaps the fear is the big paydays would then dry up.

[Controversial]

allegedly has now insisted that Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is NOT OFF as far as he's confirmed. He said he convinced Fury to U-turn and accept a rematch clause, but a dispute then emerged over the rematch split: “We want the fight, why can't it be overcome?” [@talkSPORT]

[Boxerbeetle]

allegedly has now insisted that Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is NOT OFF as far as he's confirmed. He said he convinced Fury to U-turn and accept a rematch clause, but a dispute then emerged over the rematch split: “We want the fight, why can't it be overcome?” [@talkSPORT]

I’m sure FW is desperate for the fight to take place. Shame Fury isn’t.

[coneye]

Franks in rescue mode ,, saying theres no reason for it not to go on insinuating its Usyk , Sounds like Usyk wants the rematch clause but Tyson wants the Lions share once again of any rematch , Usyks standing his ground on the rematch percentage and so he should lets have it right Usyk really has catapulted himself into the big money fights , he would make a fortune against Wilder , , who else really is there for Fury thats gonna sell more than him and Usyk , doubt AJ will he's damaged goods now thanks to Usyk making himself the Man , even doubt wilder 4 would come any where near it Fury Dubois would'nt , and Fury - Joyce may sell big but nothing compared to Fury -uSYK ONE OR TWO , i think Fury has actually done a lot of harm to his brand so to speak , with all his bullshit and shenanigans

[Frostieballs]

Imagine trying to manage/promote Tyson Fury.

Would it be worth the millions?

[polecateddy]

Fury’s Twitter still has the Chisora fight firmly pinned to the top. I think that tells a story of how seriously he’s treating the Usyk fight. How sad it would be if that’s effectively his career. Three Wilder fights and a tight decision over old Wlad. What a waste!

As an aside do you think Fury has to pay FW for all the wasted time? You’d think Fury would be presented with a big bill for generating all this crap.

[chinarich]

allegedly has now insisted that Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is NOT OFF as far as he's confirmed. He said he convinced Fury to U-turn and accept a rematch clause, but a dispute then emerged over the rematch split: “We want the fight, why can't it be overcome?” [@talkSPORT]

If the first bout is 70/30 then the rematch should be 70/30 the other way. Shouldn't even be a negotiation.

[Boxerbeetle]

It’s just so embarrassing for boxing to have a guy like Fury involved. All the criticisms he’s received over the years for ducking a challenge have been absolutely confirmed. I’d be ashamed to be a fan, tbh.

[ThereByTheGrace]

I’m a huge fury fan, but there’s simply no excuse. He’s shat himself. Clearly intimidated by Usyk. Knows his mind games aren’t gonna work, and terrified of being outboxed.

Nail on head. Next up fury v UFC no mark. Strip the title now

[polecateddy]

Usyk will fight Dubois, who has a punchers chance to upset the applecart.

[Controversial]

allegedly has now insisted that Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is NOT OFF as far as he's confirmed. He said he convinced Fury to U-turn and accept a rematch clause, but a dispute then emerged over the rematch split: “We want the fight, why can't it be overcome?” [@talkSPORT]

If the first bout is 70/30 then the rematch should be 70/30 the other way. Shouldn't even be a negotiation.

Assuming Fury lost then yes it should be that. Presumably they are arguing over the split if he wins, probably asking for 90-10 lol. For someone supposedly not interested in money it always seems to be a stumbling block for Fury. I don’t really get what difference a few million extra makes in the grand scheme of things when you are worth multiple millions and will continue to earn millions for every fight

[Ruthless-RKO]

[big lennox]

My reading of it is that Uysk has had enough of being d*cked about by Fury, who pushed the negotiations too far.

Fury is going to be harder to sell now. He will still do big business of course, but his whole ' no man born from his mother can beat me' schtick has evaporated now.

His promoters will be in the position of having to sell a known bottle job to the wider public. Even if he boxes Joshua, the backdrop will be ' Fury the ducker'. What a shame for everyone.

Felt sorry for Fury’s promotional team
They have obviously gone way beyond the call of duty to try and make the unification match happen.

[tigermoth87]

I'm a Fury fan, or was, but the simple thing is, he's bottled it.

He was livid when Uysk accepted 70-30 and then moved the goal posts again. No matter what Uysk accepts, Fury's gonna keep moving the goalposts to weasel out of it. I wouldn't be surprised if next he insists Big John Fury is the ref.

Complete bottlejob. Hopefully his fans realise he's bottled it, too.

It's a shame--he could have been up with with Lennox as one of Britain's best ever. Now, he'll just be known as Fury the Bottler.

[tigermoth87]

It’s just so embarrassing for boxing to have a guy like Fury involved. All the criticisms he’s received over the years for ducking a challenge have been absolutely confirmed. I’d be ashamed to be a fan, tbh.

I've lost all respect for him. He'll forever be known as a bottler now. He's shit himself, pure and simple. He knows he can't beat Uysk.

[Ruthless-RKO]