Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 May 2024, 20:15

Fury - Decision
66
27%
Fury - T/KO
36
15%
DRAW
16
7%
Usyk - T/KO
23
10%
Usyk - Decision
100
41%
 
Total votes: 241

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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 10:49
So even if Usyk won, Tyson wanted 70% again for the rematch :lol: absolute clown, they would never agree to that. Even if they did it would be something else wouldn't it.
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Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.
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TBA wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 11:09 Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.
How is that fair?

It would be fair if the first fight was 50/50 too. But it's 70/30 for Fury. Now, if Usyk were to win the first match, why on Earth would he give 50% to a beltless opponent who demanded 70/30 previously? If it's 70/30 in the first fight for Fury, then it should be 70/30 for Usyk in the second fight if he won the first.
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We never know who'll be worth what in a rematch until after the first; either man's stock could diminish.

But 70:30 to the winner's completely fair on Usyk's side. 50:50 on agg if he wins the first, else Fury nets a jackpot.
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Just watched FW talk about it, no surprise he’s making it out like they are in the right. Considering Usyk was happy with no rematch clause then why not do that, just sounds like Fury wants everything on his terms win or lose
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Fury has made himself look very bad in all this.

He also didn't want to give the £1 million to Ukraine as suggested by Usyk. Bit tight for an O7 plate Passat driver who not interested in money ..
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Surely if fury is so confident he won't care about usyk having advantage in rematch if he manages to beat Fury in the first especially if he doesn't care about money.

This is looking pretty weak.
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Awaiting the inevitable Fury Twitter/Instagram rant
Pretty sure most on here can quote it word for word
Before it even comes out
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I love how FW trying to spin it that Usyk will earn more money in the rematch even if he beats Fury in the first fight than he would if he fought his mandatory. If he beats Fury then he surely deserves more than Fury who would then be the challenger.
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Controversial wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 13:34 I love how FW trying to spin it that Usyk will earn more money in the rematch even if he beats Fury in the first fight than he would if he fought his mandatory. If he beats Fury then he surely deserves more than Fury who would then be the challenger.
Its laughable FW said months ago it's an easy fight to make 50/50 split.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 14:19
Controversial wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 13:34 I love how FW trying to spin it that Usyk will earn more money in the rematch even if he beats Fury in the first fight than he would if he fought his mandatory. If he beats Fury then he surely deserves more than Fury who would then be the challenger.
Its laughable FW said months ago it's an easy fight to make 50/50 split.
He has to jump to Fury’s tune though, if the boot was on the other foot he wouldn’t think it was a good deal
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Controversial wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 13:34 I love how FW trying to spin it that Usyk will earn more money in the rematch even if he beats Fury in the first fight than he would if he fought his mandatory. If he beats Fury then he surely deserves more than Fury who would then be the challenger.
If Usyk wins then Fury's stock plummets. Fury would need the rematch more than Usyk needs it plus Usyk would hold all four belts.
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si7dog7 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 13:15 Awaiting the inevitable Fury Twitter/Instagram rant
Pretty sure most on here can quote it word for word
Before it even comes out
‘Gappy teeth doesn’t wanna fight the big Gypsy King because he knows he’ll get smashed to pieces, the big shithouse dosser, the little sausage’
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ashall2 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 14:58
si7dog7 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 13:15 Awaiting the inevitable Fury Twitter/Instagram rant
Pretty sure most on here can quote it word for word
Before it even comes out
‘Gappy teeth doesn’t wanna fight the big Gypsy King because he knows he’ll get smashed to pieces, the big shithouse dosser, the little sausage’
Couldn’t have put it better himself
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

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I hope the travelling community drop Fury every bit as much as the boxing community has. The least he deserves for railroading us all.

Still think the fight will happen, cant see how an egocentrical type like Fury will live with himself if it didn't.
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The Docker wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:08 I hope the travelling community drop Fury every bit as much as the boxing community has. The least he deserves for railroading us all.

Still think the fight will happen, cant see how an egocentrical type like Fury will live with himself if it didn't.
Why does that even matter?
Its boxing fans who see thru this fugazi
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The Docker wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:08 I hope the travelling community drop Fury every bit as much as the boxing community has. The least he deserves for railroading us all.

Still think the fight will happen, cant see how an egocentrical type like Fury will live with himself if it didn't.
Tyson is living in his own little world where his hangers on repeat to him what Big-John says .. his ego is so overinflated Tyson just doesn't want to hear any other views/opinions/perspectives.

It's only when the TV/radio interviews start bringing the reality to him and he starts to realise he is a laughing stock will he go into melt down.

The Fury's have over stayed their time in boxing. Time for them to disappear.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

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887986 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 11:14
TBA wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 11:09 Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.
How is that fair?

It would be fair if the first fight was 50/50 too. But it's 70/30 for Fury. Now, if Usyk were to win the first match, why on Earth would he give 50% to a beltless opponent who demanded 70/30 previously? If it's 70/30 in the first fight for Fury, then it should be 70/30 for Usyk in the second fight if he won the first.
Joshua/Usuk II was around 50/50 split (Josh slightly more iirc).

But that fight happened in Saudi, so going by Fury scenario, each party would negotiate their own split anyways if Usyk/Fury went that route.

Ideally it would be as you say, the winner takes the bigger purse and certainly in the rematch.

But it doesn't work like that as we all know. The A side gets the bigger purse usually.

So think of it like this. If there is a Usyk/Fury II then where is it going to happen?

-Ukraine? Nope (obviously)
-Middle East? (Purses negotiated individually)
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-UK?
-US?

If it's the latter two then in the UK Fury will still be the draw. In the US more debatable (though I don't see the fight happening there).

I certainly think a 50/50 split for a rematch in the UK is fair if Usyk wins basically.
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si7dog7 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:20
The Docker wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:08 I hope the travelling community drop Fury every bit as much as the boxing community has. The least he deserves for railroading us all.

Still think the fight will happen, cant see how an egocentrical type like Fury will live with himself if it didn't.
Why does that even matter?
Its boxing fans who see thru this fugazi
Fury and Saunders flew the flag for the Gypsy/traveller community. It's a shame that both turned out to be bad role models.

Henry Wharton never played up to it during his career - although he was a far better role model imo

The Fury's and Saunders have brought nothing but embarrassment.
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tonyevs wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:27
si7dog7 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:20
The Docker wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:08 I hope the travelling community drop Fury every bit as much as the boxing community has. The least he deserves for railroading us all.

Still think the fight will happen, cant see how an egocentrical type like Fury will live with himself if it didn't.
Why does that even matter?
Its boxing fans who see thru this fugazi
Fury and Saunders flew the flag for the Gypsy/traveller community. It's a shame that both turned out to be bad role models.

Henry Wharton never played up to it during his career - although he was a far better role model imo

The Fury's and Saunders have brought nothing but embarrassment.
Loved Henry Wharton. Spartan that guy.
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si7dog7 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:20
The Docker wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:08 I hope the travelling community drop Fury every bit as much as the boxing community has. The least he deserves for railroading us all.

Still think the fight will happen, cant see how an egocentrical type like Fury will live with himself if it didn't.
Why does that even matter?
Its boxing fans who see thru this fugazi
Not sure why I have to bridge the gap from my point and you being a gimp here.

It maybe the most pertinent point to Fury lacing them up. Micky alluded in a post earlier, the crowd would be heavily weighted with travellers
cheering for their king. It would likely be more hurtful and spiteful to him were they to turn their back on him through cowardice to fight.
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The Docker wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:43
si7dog7 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:20
The Docker wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 15:08 I hope the travelling community drop Fury every bit as much as the boxing community has. The least he deserves for railroading us all.

Still think the fight will happen, cant see how an egocentrical type like Fury will live with himself if it didn't.
Why does that even matter?
Its boxing fans who see thru this fugazi
Not sure why I have to bridge the gap from my point and you being a gimp here.

It maybe the most pertinent point to Fury lacing them up. Micky alluded in a post earlier, the crowd would be heavily weighted with travellers
cheering for their king. It would likely be more hurtful and spiteful to him were they to turn their back on him through cowardice to fight.
Allude all you like
It’s nonsense to bring up a demographic when Tyson had bridged all of that.
Personal insults are just… well
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maverick23 wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 16:16
He's a warrior proper throwback how can fight fans not love this guy. There comes a point though where enough is enough.
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