Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 May 2024, 20:15

Fury - Decision
66
27%
Fury - T/KO
36
15%
DRAW
16
7%
Usyk - T/KO
23
10%
Usyk - Decision
100
41%
 
Total votes: 241

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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

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Nightmare Roy wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 17:25
big lennox wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 17:15 Uysk and his team have done an absolute number on Fury's camp.
PR rescue mission is in full swing now, cant see it helping much though.
Agreed. Fury's camp look, at best, greedy and, at worst, not up to the Uysk challenge. I do feel sorry for Fury's promoters as I do think they wanted this fight and historical occasion.

And the sad thing is, it didn't need to be this way.
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Just a disaster for Fury. Had the chance to be the man and has shat his legacy away. Nothing he can say will change that.

And I was a fan too.
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Warren getting his emails out again, like the good old days. :zzz:

What a sorry state of affairs. The sooner this era of heavys retire the fkin better in my opinion. It's been diabolical.
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Glass Joe wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 17:41

tyson and frank getting slated in the comments :OhYes:

they will be on the phone to kugan to take the video down

i don't think there is anyone more irritating in boxing than allegedly atm and that's saying something!
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dan28uk wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 18:14
Glass Joe wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 17:41

tyson and frank getting slated in the comments :OhYes:

they will be on the phone to kugan to take the video down

i don't think there is anyone more irritating in boxing than allegedly atm and that's saying something!
The annoying thing about all this , is the amount off lies , and bullshit ,, Fury came out and said Listen this is gonna be the biggest test of my carreer and i need a bit more time to get fit and prepare , he would of got a pass from everyone , who would agree you don't face Usyk leas than 100% . But he's not its obvious now his training has consisted of just hitting the gym casually , its now not disputed he's had no decent sparring brought in and no trainer ,,, Now i don't for one minuite believe that Fwank did'nt know that , he's the promoter he's putting money up how could he off not known . and its obviuos to blind freddy , if a boxer is'ntt training for a fight he's not gonna fight
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All that needs to be said.
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It's frustrating, that the bout failed to happen. 100 pages of discussion for nothing.
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Imagine a grown man reading YouTube comments.
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big lennox wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 17:15 Uysk and his team have done an absolute number on Fury's camp.
Him fleeing to Poland will go down in boxing history.
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ashall2 wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 21:40

All that needs to be said.
:lol:
It's like how many lies does one side need to be caught in.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 16:35
tonyevs wrote: 23 Mar 2023, 16:12 I think Fury may call another fake retirement to avoid being positioned into another fight he doesn't want.

That would mean Usyk running the gauntlet of the mandatories .. which he could lose or give up the belts. Then Fury makes a comeback at end of year/early next year to cherry pick the easiest option.
I have to say, I'd not put it past him right now, and I have to call into doubt the whole mental illness schtick. Sometimes he does sound very belieavable, there was a recent interview, and what he described did sound a lot like someone who has sufferered from depression, aI know because I was diagnosed myself, and everything he described all sounded v ery familiar indeed.

There's also part of me, who thought he just went off the rails and got into doing loads of bugle and booze as a way of escparing having to actually defend his belt against Wlad.

The facts are, his career has had some good nights, but as a champion, he has been absolutely piss poor, and will go down in history as a bottle job if he doesn't do something meaningful with the tail end of his career.
Sorry to hear you've struggled with depression.

I am still 100% sure Fury does not have bipolar as he often claims, there have never been any evidence of it .. and such a high profile person all these years we'd have definitely seen it.

If he has depression is all together possible though. Lots of people have this without even an official diagnosis .. it's well known the come down off alcohol and amphetamines both act as depressants, so sure fits Fury.

I hope this whole episode dicking around with Usyk as Fury has done before with AJ to sell his next fight or get some attention has finally opened people's eyes to the fake Fury is .. he is right up there with BjS as a thick offensive bully happy to use anybodys difficulties to benefit himself.
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Looking at the social media comments, they are awash with people calling Fury a bottle job and ducker. No amount of spin from Fury's camp is going to change that, it seems. And trying to accuse Uysk, who took the sh*t end of the stick financially, of only being interested in money, rings hollow. People see right through it.

This episode of putting so many road blocks in the way, pricing himself out and his trainer saying he wasn't even here to train him, will live long in the memory for everyone.

Even if he boxes again, it will always be against the back drop that he shat the bed. It wouldn't surprise me if he retires to avoid the flack like he did to avoid the Klitschko rematch and the PED test failure.

The announcement of his wife's pregnancy, the angry video, filled with personal insults, and trying to focus on money, feels a bit like a defence Boris or Trump would make.
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big lennox wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 03:56 Looking at the social media comments, they are awash with people calling Fury a bottle job and ducker. No amount of spin from Fury's camp is going to change that, it seems. And trying to accuse Uysk, who took the sh*t end of the stick financially, of being only interested in money, rings hollow. People see right through it.

This episode of putting so many road blocks in the way, pricing himself out and his trainer saying he wasn't even here to train him, will live long in the memory for everyone.

Even if he boxes again, it will always be against the back drop that he shat the bed. It wouldn't surprise me if he retires to avoid the flack like he did to avoid the Klitschko rematch and the PED test failure.

The announcement of his wife's pregnancy, the angry video, filled with personal insults, and trying to focus on money, feels a bit like a defence Boris or Trump would make.
Usyk took the sh#t end of the stick financially against Bellew, Chisora and Joshua. He turned down the Fury fight in December and has missed the Ukrainian winter by staying in warmer climes before fleeing back home.
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big lennox wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 03:56 Looking at the social media comments, they are awash with people calling Fury a bottle job and ducker. No amount of spin from Fury's camp is going to change that, it seems. And trying to accuse Uysk, who took the sh*t end of the stick financially, of only being interested in money, rings hollow. People see right through it.

This episode of putting so many road blocks in the way, pricing himself out and his trainer saying he wasn't even here to train him, will live long in the memory for everyone.

Even if he boxes again, it will always be against the back drop that he shat the bed. It wouldn't surprise me if he retires to avoid the flack like he did to avoid the Klitschko rematch and the PED test failure.

The announcement of his wife's pregnancy, the angry video, filled with personal insults, and trying to focus on money, feels a bit like a defence Boris or Trump would make.
makes you laugh allegedly saying fury in camp for 3 weeks and sugar hill training him when its come out now that he wasnt here to train him! i personally dont think hes scared of usyk but more scared of being seriously outboxed and losing that 0 riddick bowe still gets mentioned about ducking lennox lewis 30 odd years ago i can see the a hiatus coming siting mental health from the collapse of this fight coming
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BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:05
big lennox wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 03:56 Looking at the social media comments, they are awash with people calling Fury a bottle job and ducker. No amount of spin from Fury's camp is going to change that, it seems. And trying to accuse Uysk, who took the sh*t end of the stick financially, of being only interested in money, rings hollow. People see right through it.

This episode of putting so many road blocks in the way, pricing himself out and his trainer saying he wasn't even here to train him, will live long in the memory for everyone.

Even if he boxes again, it will always be against the back drop that he shat the bed. It wouldn't surprise me if he retires to avoid the flack like he did to avoid the Klitschko rematch and the PED test failure.

The announcement of his wife's pregnancy, the angry video, filled with personal insults, and trying to focus on money, feels a bit like a defence Boris or Trump would make.
Usyk took the sh#t end of the stick financially against Bellew, Chisora and Joshua. He turned down the Fury fight in December and has missed the Ukrainian winter by staying in warmer climes before fleeing back home.
turn it in ffs
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BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:05
big lennox wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 03:56 Looking at the social media comments, they are awash with people calling Fury a bottle job and ducker. No amount of spin from Fury's camp is going to change that, it seems. And trying to accuse Uysk, who took the sh*t end of the stick financially, of being only interested in money, rings hollow. People see right through it.

This episode of putting so many road blocks in the way, pricing himself out and his trainer saying he wasn't even here to train him, will live long in the memory for everyone.

Even if he boxes again, it will always be against the back drop that he shat the bed. It wouldn't surprise me if he retires to avoid the flack like he did to avoid the Klitschko rematch and the PED test failure.

The announcement of his wife's pregnancy, the angry video, filled with personal insults, and trying to focus on money, feels a bit like a defence Boris or Trump would make.
Usyk took the sh#t end of the stick financially against Bellew, Chisora and Joshua. He turned down the Fury fight in December and has missed the Ukrainian winter by staying in warmer climes before fleeing back home.
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
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samwbr wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:12
BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:05
big lennox wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 03:56 Looking at the social media comments, they are awash with people calling Fury a bottle job and ducker. No amount of spin from Fury's camp is going to change that, it seems. And trying to accuse Uysk, who took the sh*t end of the stick financially, of being only interested in money, rings hollow. People see right through it.

This episode of putting so many road blocks in the way, pricing himself out and his trainer saying he wasn't even here to train him, will live long in the memory for everyone.

Even if he boxes again, it will always be against the back drop that he shat the bed. It wouldn't surprise me if he retires to avoid the flack like he did to avoid the Klitschko rematch and the PED test failure.

The announcement of his wife's pregnancy, the angry video, filled with personal insults, and trying to focus on money, feels a bit like a defence Boris or Trump would make.
Usyk took the sh#t end of the stick financially against Bellew, Chisora and Joshua. He turned down the Fury fight in December and has missed the Ukrainian winter by staying in warmer climes before fleeing back home.
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
It’s irrelevant what his team said they would accept. He’d quit camp and headed home.
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BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:15
samwbr wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:12
BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:05
Usyk took the sh#t end of the stick financially against Bellew, Chisora and Joshua. He turned down the Fury fight in December and has missed the Ukrainian winter by staying in warmer climes before fleeing back home.
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
It’s irrelevant what his team said they would accept. He’d quit camp and headed home.
He quit camp because he had had enough of being jerked about by Fury, who never wanted the fight.

In credibility terms, Fury is now a busted flush. But, it seems he would rather be known as a bottle job than actually getting beat, which might have happened against Uysk.

Even Matt Macklin and Johnny Nelson are saying the Fury didn't fancy it against Uysk, and they are fellow pros.
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BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:15
samwbr wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:12
BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:05
Usyk took the sh#t end of the stick financially against Bellew, Chisora and Joshua. He turned down the Fury fight in December and has missed the Ukrainian winter by staying in warmer climes before fleeing back home.
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
It’s irrelevant what his team said they would accept. He’d quit camp and headed home.
Usyk said he’d take 30% aslong as Fury gave £1m to Ukrainian charities. Possibly when it became clear Fury wouldn’t accept that (as Frank said yesterday) he decided enough was enough.
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big lennox wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:25
BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:15
samwbr wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:12
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
It’s irrelevant what his team said they would accept. He’d quit camp and headed home.
He quit camp because he had had enough of being jerked about by Fury, who never wanted the fight.

In credibility terms, Fury is now a busted flush. But, it seems he would rather be known as a bottle job than actually getting beat, which might have happened against Uysk.

Even Matt Macklin and Johnny Nelson are saying the Fury didn't fancy it against Uysk, and they are fellow pros.
It seems like the fight was agreed until Usyk’s team brought up the rematch split. Usyk quit camp and headed for Poland before it was negotiated.
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Usyk ducking Belly?
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maverick23 wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:29
BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:15
samwbr wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:12
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
It’s irrelevant what his team said they would accept. He’d quit camp and headed home.
Usyk said he’d take 30% aslong as Fury gave £1m to Ukrainian charities. Possibly when it became clear Fury wouldn’t accept that (as Frank said yesterday) he decided enough was enough.

Usyk may as well have said he’d take 20%. It’s irrelevant because he did a runner.
Frank actually said that Usyk’s team accepted a bet with him for the £1m.
How do the charities or the war effort benefit from Usyk spending the winter in Turkey before fleeing for Poland?
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BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:15
samwbr wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:12
BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:05
Usyk took the sh#t end of the stick financially against Bellew, Chisora and Joshua. He turned down the Fury fight in December and has missed the Ukrainian winter by staying in warmer climes before fleeing back home.
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
It’s irrelevant what his team said they would accept. He’d quit camp and headed home.
you realise a flight to poland isn't a one way trip? It's not like he was on a nazi cattle truck is it. It's a 3 hour flight, he could easily fly back.

Given the fact Fury, ACCORDING TO HIS OWN TRAINER, wasn't even in camp at all, I think it's pretty clear which of the two fighters had the most serious intention to fight.

I wish you would shut up now, you're embarrassing yourself.

As predicted by myself and others just minutes ago, Warren is now talking about Fury retiring.

I expect that in the next days or weeks, Steward will also announce he is no longer working with Fury - I get the impression he's fed up already of working with Fury, as he is full of shite and chaotic.
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BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:15
samwbr wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:12
BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:05
Usyk took the sh#t end of the stick financially against Bellew, Chisora and Joshua. He turned down the Fury fight in December and has missed the Ukrainian winter by staying in warmer climes before fleeing back home.
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
It’s irrelevant what his team said they would accept. He’d quit camp and headed home.
Because there was no chance of a deal being done, rowing back on everything and renegotiating previously agreed terms. Fury has shit the bed, its plain as day.
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big lennox wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:25
BigDoofus wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:15
samwbr wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 04:12
And earned the right not to take the low side with his performances. Its not difficult.

And the small matter of 3 belts.
It’s irrelevant what his team said they would accept. He’d quit camp and headed home.
He quit camp because he had had enough of being jerked about by Fury, who never wanted the fight.

In credibility terms, Fury is now a busted flush. But, it seems he would rather be known as a bottle job than actually getting beat, which might have happened against Uysk.

Even Matt Macklin and Johnny Nelson are saying the Fury didn't fancy it against Uysk, and they are fellow pros.
Alex Krassyuk said Fury wasn’t to blame. Krassyuk knows why Usyk fled. The Sky pundits don’t.
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