Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023

Who wins?

Poll ended at 01 Apr 2023, 06:44

Joshua - Decision
13
22%
Joshua - T/KO
38
63%
DRAW
1
2%
Franklin - T/KO
4
7%
Franklin - Decision
4
7%
 
Total votes: 60

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African Monkey wrote: 19 Mar 2023, 21:34 Kabayel has the Euro title for about the 12th time
:lol:
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African Monkey wrote: 19 Mar 2023, 21:34
JamesPhilips wrote: 19 Mar 2023, 18:28 I don’t know about the forum, but I’m really looking forward to the Campbell Hatton fight against another non puncher. It’s amazing,, almost like they know how bad he is. :D :OhYes:
I do find it amusing how they're sort of stuck trying to push him now even though we all know how bad he is. They'll have to pad his record out to about 30-0 before cashing him out, and not chuck him on PEDs after the Conor Benn saga.

If Kadiru was undefeated and was having a tune up for a European title shot against Wardley or something, then yeah, I'd see the logic in having him on, but he's already been exposed, Kabayel has the Euro title for about the 12th time, so yeah, what's the point of him being on?
Yeah you remember when Dimitri Bivol was the warmup for Campbell Hatton? I mean you could say it’s not his fault but he comes across entitled and arrogant. And that fight he lost by 5-1 he claimed he won by 5-1. I mean show some humbleness.

I don’t think Kadiru is that bad an opponent but Wardley is ready for a step up
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maverick23 wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 16:39 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxin ... -bout.html

Not ideal going in to fight week.
Basically doesn’t wanna pay them
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There is zero noise about this fight which will be made even worse by the Premier League restart.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: 16 Mar 2023, 12:00
polecateddy wrote: 16 Mar 2023, 08:53
watsupdoc87 wrote: 15 Mar 2023, 19:06

Yeah i think eddies mocking the paris fury tread there :bag:
Looks like he only went back under VADA testing around the 11th February. So prior to that you’d wonder how efficient UKAD really are at testing athletes who are based in America. It seems like a system open to abuse to me.
The thing is adding a ton of muscle doesn't really help him. Huge muscle bellies will sap all of his oxygen and he'll gas and fade. He should be working harder on building his conditioning and improving his workrate so he can throw more punches a round.
Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.
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garethhop wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 17:39 There is zero noise about this fight which will be made even worse by the Premier League restart.
Mate, I only clicked on the thread to find out why the heck it has so may posts :lol:
No one gives a flying f*ck about this fight!
It's utterly meaningless. :zzz:
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 17:43
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: 16 Mar 2023, 12:00
polecateddy wrote: 16 Mar 2023, 08:53

Looks like he only went back under VADA testing around the 11th February. So prior to that you’d wonder how efficient UKAD really are at testing athletes who are based in America. It seems like a system open to abuse to me.
The thing is adding a ton of muscle doesn't really help him. Huge muscle bellies will sap all of his oxygen and he'll gas and fade. He should be working harder on building his conditioning and improving his workrate so he can throw more punches a round.
Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.


I'm reminded of movie LEOLO where the kids brother gets bullied, so he builds up muscles, only to get his butt kicked and cries horribly. It's a really sad thing when people assume mass or looks can make the difference when it's really all inside your mind.
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Some random company are trying to sell cheap tickets. £60 -£750 vip. £100 lower tier. They must have had their fingers burned.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 17:43
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: 16 Mar 2023, 12:00
polecateddy wrote: 16 Mar 2023, 08:53

Looks like he only went back under VADA testing around the 11th February. So prior to that you’d wonder how efficient UKAD really are at testing athletes who are based in America. It seems like a system open to abuse to me.
The thing is adding a ton of muscle doesn't really help him. Huge muscle bellies will sap all of his oxygen and he'll gas and fade. He should be working harder on building his conditioning and improving his workrate so he can throw more punches a round.
Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.
Do they not help with hooks and uppercuts?
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KiwiRider wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 18:11
garethhop wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 17:39 There is zero noise about this fight which will be made even worse by the Premier League restart.
Mate, I only clicked on the thread to find out why the heck it has so may posts :lol:
No one gives a flying f*ck about this fight!
It's utterly meaningless. :zzz:
Yep agreed. None of my mates talking about this fight .. a very noticeable lack of any buzz about it.

*Big muscle thing. AJ when he first turned pro was quite lean looking (for a heavyweight!). Whilst I accept big muscles don't make you that 1 punch KO artist by default .. they certainly make you stronger and add weight to your punches.
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Fight Week!! :box:
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Are the 2 time 2 tone tight pants Tooney crew nervous?



Feeling a little sick?



Not selling out. Maybe Ed can apply some CGI.
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joshj909 wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 02:38
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 17:43
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: 16 Mar 2023, 12:00

The thing is adding a ton of muscle doesn't really help him. Huge muscle bellies will sap all of his oxygen and he'll gas and fade. He should be working harder on building his conditioning and improving his workrate so he can throw more punches a round.
Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.
Do they not help with hooks and uppercuts?
No, not really, if you're generating the power of your hooks and uppercuts from your arms alone, there will be very little on them.

The hook involves the rotation of the hips and girdle of muscles around the abdomen, with the shoulder providing an additional fulcrum. Big biceps really do nothing for punchpower.

The uppercut similarly, starts from below the waist, with the pelvis being rotated, followed by the upperbody and finally shoulder and elbow. The momentum isn't driven by the biceps it's the shoulder that rotates, and the bicep is only engaged to bend the arm, which remains static until the point of impact.

Big bulging muscles are one of the most overrated aspects of a fighter's assets.

Some guys are naturally thickset, like foreman in his prime, or liston, but Joshua's arms have clearly been pumped to ludicrous proportions using weights to bulk up.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 10:18
joshj909 wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 02:38
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 17:43

Huge biceps contribute zero to puncher power either. Its just tshirt muscles.

Joshua's pretty brittle psychologically I think having big muscles makes him feel better.
Do they not help with hooks and uppercuts?
No, not really, if you're generating the power of your hooks and uppercuts from your arms alone, there will be very little on them.

The hook involves the rotation of the hips and girdle of muscles around the abdomen, with the shoulder providing an additional fulcrum. Big biceps really do nothing for punchpower.

The uppercut similarly, starts from below the waist, with the pelvis being rotated, followed by the upperbody and finally shoulder and elbow. The momentum isn't driven by the biceps it's the shoulder that rotates, and the bicep is only engaged to bend the arm, which remains static until the point of impact.

Big bulging muscles are one of the most overrated aspects of a fighter's assets.

Some guys are naturally thickset, like foreman in his prime, or liston, but Joshua's arms have clearly been pumped to ludicrous proportions using weights to bulk up.
It’s all about angles and leverage. Leverage and ableness to adapt is key.

Muscles mean fook all .
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si7dog7 wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 12:58
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 10:18
joshj909 wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 02:38

Do they not help with hooks and uppercuts?
No, not really, if you're generating the power of your hooks and uppercuts from your arms alone, there will be very little on them.

The hook involves the rotation of the hips and girdle of muscles around the abdomen, with the shoulder providing an additional fulcrum. Big biceps really do nothing for punchpower.

The uppercut similarly, starts from below the waist, with the pelvis being rotated, followed by the upperbody and finally shoulder and elbow. The momentum isn't driven by the biceps it's the shoulder that rotates, and the bicep is only engaged to bend the arm, which remains static until the point of impact.

Big bulging muscles are one of the most overrated aspects of a fighter's assets.

Some guys are naturally thickset, like foreman in his prime, or liston, but Joshua's arms have clearly been pumped to ludicrous proportions using weights to bulk up.
It’s all about angles and leverage. Leverage and ableness to adapt is key.

Muscles mean fook all .
Exactly, it's transfer of momentum, and that requires explosiveness, adroit footwork, and flexibility.

Look at Tyson in his prime, he was 205-210 at his peak weight, and incredibly fast and agile, whilst he was built, he didn't have huge bulging muscles, he was just built like a tank.
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tonyevs wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 03:04
KiwiRider wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 18:11
garethhop wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 17:39 There is zero noise about this fight which will be made even worse by the Premier League restart.
Mate, I only clicked on the thread to find out why the heck it has so may posts :lol:
No one gives a flying f*ck about this fight!
It's utterly meaningless. :zzz:
Yep agreed. None of my mates talking about this fight .. a very noticeable lack of any buzz about it.

*Big muscle thing. AJ when he first turned pro was quite lean looking (for a heavyweight!). Whilst I accept big muscles don't make you that 1 punch KO artist by default .. they certainly make you stronger and add weight to your punches.
Big muscles will add weight, which can of course add to the momentum transferred, but they also tend to slow you down, which can mitigate those effects.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 13:32
si7dog7 wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 12:58
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 10:18

No, not really, if you're generating the power of your hooks and uppercuts from your arms alone, there will be very little on them.

The hook involves the rotation of the hips and girdle of muscles around the abdomen, with the shoulder providing an additional fulcrum. Big biceps really do nothing for punchpower.

The uppercut similarly, starts from below the waist, with the pelvis being rotated, followed by the upperbody and finally shoulder and elbow. The momentum isn't driven by the biceps it's the shoulder that rotates, and the bicep is only engaged to bend the arm, which remains static until the point of impact.

Big bulging muscles are one of the most overrated aspects of a fighter's assets.

Some guys are naturally thickset, like foreman in his prime, or liston, but Joshua's arms have clearly been pumped to ludicrous proportions using weights to bulk up.
It’s all about angles and leverage. Leverage and ableness to adapt is key.

Muscles mean fook all .
Exactly, it's transfer of momentum, and that requires explosiveness, adroit footwork, and flexibility.

Look at Tyson in his prime, he was 205-210 at his peak weight, and incredibly fast and agile, whilst he was built, he didn't have huge bulging muscles, he was just built like a tank.
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AJ secures a zillion dollar deal with DAZN....

DAZN cant even get views free to air and are probably gunna have to get a last minute hero like johny fisher in to sell tickets so the arena looks full, hahaha.

What a time to be alive.
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Franklin gonna smoke AJ early
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gregregegg wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 16:27 AJ secures a zillion dollar deal with DAZN....

DAZN cant even get views free to air and are probably gunna have to get a last minute hero like johny fisher in to sell tickets so the arena looks full, hahaha.

What a time to be alive.
I think scalpers bought up a fair few tickets early on, so DAZN might make some money back there.
When it was first announced there was Richards Vs Bolotnikson the card which would have been quite decent.
Now, well it ain't garnering subscribers I'm betting.
I think even if I was at a loose end, I wouldn't bother with a free ticket.
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forcefraser wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 17:16 Franklin gonna smoke AJ early
You think Joshua is worse than Jerry Forrest or the unprepared Whyte?
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