Some Interesting new heavyweights .....

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What do we think of these prospects ?

Dusan Veletic - serbia, flashy style hands low, loves uppercuts, still a novice (6-1-1) but gone very deep early, lost in a war with fellow prospect Jose Larduet

Antonio Mireless - decent US amateur, 6ft 9, moves well, bit of a wilder physique

Alexis Barriere - Canadian , seems decent enough

Mladen Miljas - moving slowly but also seems ok, canada

Jeamie Tshikeva - decent amateur, lovely fast hands, uk

Moses Jolly - another nice moving, low hands style, he's stopped the durable Phil
Williams and is 4-0 in UK.

Malik Titus - seems ok, nice single shots, needs to be tested, usa
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Miljas was being mentioned in the previous round of "new heavyweights" and his opposition is getting worse. Somebody, whether it's him or his team, must have no confidence in him so I think he will struggle when the competition improves.

Barriere seems to be the one making the more urgent moves out of those guys. Staying active and has steadily increased the competition.

From what I have seen, I wouldn't say any in the list have moved mountains enough so far to make me think they will become world level contenders but they could pick up some reasonable wins eventually.
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mireles moves well ? jeezus , how low are your standards man, he moves like an oaf, it was painful to watch him vs maitala :lol:

i dont rate any of these guys, barriere is the only one who might make it to fringe contender level at tops
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These are undefeated "prospects" who have not yet fought against a known name on my watchlist. I think most will eventually outperform those you have listed.

Clarke, Barriere, Adeleye, Akpejiori, Dychko, Hovhannisyan (new), Huni, Jalolov, Yallyev, Larduet, Dacres, Shala.
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funso banjo baby wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 03:16 What do we think of these prospects ?

Dusan Veletic - serbia, flashy style hands low, loves uppercuts, still a novice (6-1-1) but gone very deep early, lost in a war with fellow prospect Jose Larduet

Antonio Mireless - decent US amateur, 6ft 9, moves well, bit of a wilder physique

Alexis Barriere - Canadian , seems decent enough

Mladen Miljas - moving slowly but also seems ok, canada

Jeamie Tshikeva - decent amateur, lovely fast hands, uk

Moses Jolly - another nice moving, low hands style, he's stopped the durable Phil
Williams and is 4-0 in UK.

Malik Titus - seems ok, nice single shots, needs to be tested, usa

I saw Mireless fight a big fat super heavyweight who was stamina challenged but powerful. Anyway he was floored and nearly KO' d Mireless, but Mierless won a 6 round spilt decision. ( 4-2 on my card ). He's nothing like Wilder in build or speed and IMO is not going very far . He is a little goofy and not fluid. Being American he will be promted rather well.
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joshj909 wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 03:55 These are undefeated "prospects" who have not yet fought against a known name on my watchlist. I think most will eventually outperform those you have listed.

Clarke, Barriere, Adeleye, Akpejiori, Dychko, Hovhannisyan (new), Huni, Jalolov, Yallyev, Larduet, Dacres, Shala.
your mixing apples & oranges here. the guys you listed everybody who's interested in upcoming heavyweights knows them. those guys are already couple of steps ahead of the absolute beginners he came up with. minus miljas.
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adislav123 wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 08:45
joshj909 wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 03:55 These are undefeated "prospects" who have not yet fought against a known name on my watchlist. I think most will eventually outperform those you have listed.

Clarke, Barriere, Adeleye, Akpejiori, Dychko, Hovhannisyan (new), Huni, Jalolov, Yallyev, Larduet, Dacres, Shala.
your mixing apples & oranges here. the guys you listed everybody who's interested in upcoming heavyweights knows them. those guys are already couple of steps ahead of the absolute beginners he came up with. minus miljas.
I take your point but I'd argue that some are just being moved slower. I took it as an opportunity to compare prospects, even if they are more well known. Most of the ones I mentioned may have more eyes on them but at the moment there is a reason for that due to them having better opponents in fewer fights.

Perhaps using Miljas as part of the benchmark skewed My view on the type of prospect.On taking a second look you could probably take Dychko off the list as he beat Ustinov a while back who is known even though he's limited. Akpejiori/Yallyev aswell given the number of pro-fights they have.
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Just a few new names that's all bar mladen.
Most are still very much novice with under 10 and not much amatuer ex.

I didn't watch the recent Mireles fight but could see it was a marginal step up...frankly the fact that he can move at all at 6ft9 is amazing...but he seemed ok in the other fights. Certainly it'll be interesting to see how long he takes to fall down if he leaves his chin out?

Also worth noting the average age of this list is around 26-27.....and that is frankly astounding
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Mijas is being brought along real slow. Jeez, even by today's standards. Surprised to see only 14 Canadian HWs listed.
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joshj909 wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 03:55 These are undefeated "prospects" who have not yet fought against a known name on my watchlist. I think most will eventually outperform those you have listed.

Clarke, Barriere, Adeleye, Akpejiori, Dychko, Hovhannisyan (new), Huni, Jalolov, Yallyev, Larduet, Dacres, Shala.
I'm not that familiar with your original list Josh.
But since you mentioned Justis Huni, I can say he is definitely on my prospect watch list.
If he gets the right promotion to move forward is probably the biggest question mark over his career, as opposed to talent.
Good chin, good punch selection, medium to decent power, good natural size, reasonable movement, and so far above average engine.
Another thing that is interesting about him is he has a really surprising inside game for a bloke if his build.
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KiwiRider wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 16:52
joshj909 wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 03:55 These are undefeated "prospects" who have not yet fought against a known name on my watchlist. I think most will eventually outperform those you have listed.

Clarke, Barriere, Adeleye, Akpejiori, Dychko, Hovhannisyan (new), Huni, Jalolov, Yallyev, Larduet, Dacres, Shala.
I'm not that familiar with your original list Josh.
But since you mentioned Justis Huni, I can say he is definitely on my prospect watch list.
If he gets the right promotion to move forward is probably the biggest question mark over his career, as opposed to talent.
Good chin, good punch selection, medium to decent power, good natural size, reasonable movement, and so far above average engine.
Another thing that is interesting about him is he has a really surprising inside game for a bloke if his build.
He could definitely be one of the top names in the next generation of heavyweights. He looks better than Dubois who's older than him, that's for sure. He's still got a a couple of years left to build some experience before jumping in with the top names. If he could take out a known name before facing Parker in a crossroads fight in a few years he could end up in the spotlight a bit.
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justis is talented.....nice quick hands...... obviously one of the more 'athletic' guys at the weight. but he seems to lose focus in there and gets into tear ups too much where he's easier to hit, and he doesnt have the power to make that style work at a high level. watching him the ams, he could box and move very well, he should adapt that more
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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 17:18 justis is talented.....nice quick hands...... obviously one of the more 'athletic' guys at the weight. but he seems to lose focus in there and gets into tear ups too much where he's easier to hit, and he doesnt have the power to make that style work at a high level. watching him the ams, he could box and move very well, he should adapt that more
Totally agree.
Fortunately his chin has kept him in there. The sad thing, like you say, he doesn't need to get into wars.
I think a change in trainer, and better promotion/management is needed ir he will become an also ran
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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 17:18 justis is talented.....nice quick hands...... obviously one of the more 'athletic' guys at the weight. but he seems to lose focus in there and gets into tear ups too much where he's easier to hit, and he doesnt have the power to make that style work at a high level. watching him the ams, he could box and move very well, he should adapt that more
I agree. He has fast hands and inside game. But he was in the vs. a guy where he can shine, needs to work on defense and has at best average type power.

Huni is an excellent regional Aussie prospect but, he is a grade B to B + type of world prospect. Not an elite level prospect.

He has cleaned up on the other Aussie prospects and been moved rather quickly. The next step for him will prove to be more difficult.
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Sounds like a who's who? As in who the heck are they??? :maybe:

Had a look at this Jolly chap on youtube, a moustache from the 70's and a hairstyle from the 80's :lol:
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IRONFIST wrote: 29 Mar 2023, 09:21 Sounds like a who's who? As in who the heck are they??? :maybe:

Had a look at this Jolly chap on youtube, a moustache from the 70's and a hairstyle from the 80's :lol:
Oi!
That is the height of men's fashion down under thank you! :shame:
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funso banjo baby wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 03:16 What do we think of these prospects ?

Dusan Veletic -6-1-1 and has a past it Soko next. Might take a flier on Soko!

Antonio Mireless - A big nothing with a chandelier jaw

Alexis Barriere - best name on his 9 victories is 38 y/o Adam Braidwood a local stiff.

Mladen Miljas - been fighting 6 years in the pros and barely out of 6 rounders. Looks 'delicate.' used to have him on my watchlist but he's a KO waiting to happen

Jeamie Tshikeva - 29 with only 4 fights. Nope.

Moses Jolly - 27 with only 4 fights. I wouldn't be hopeful on him.

Malik Titus -Staying busy. Power & size but not much else at the moment he is on my watchlist
Not sure where you dug this list up from bruh. :maybe:
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IRONFIST wrote: 29 Mar 2023, 09:21 Sounds like a who's who? As in who the heck are they??? :maybe:

Had a look at this Jolly chap on youtube, a moustache from the 70's and a hairstyle from the 80's :lol:
:OhYes:
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Wanna see someone 'interesting?" watch Johnny Fisher. 24 y/o from the UK looks like he could make some noise on European level in a couple of years.
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johnny is young and strong, though fights like a pub brawler
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oogiebe wrote: 29 Mar 2023, 18:07 Wanna see someone 'interesting?" watch Johnny Fisher. 24 y/o from the UK looks like he could make some noise on European level in a couple of years.
Wanna see something" disgusting?"
Watch Big John Fisher. A morbidly obese man from the UK who celebrates his gluttony on youtube.

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I did quick brief look at all of their styles in a flash so to speak, this isn't an in depth.
Veletic ... Needs to up his boxing skills, likes to admire his work.
Mireless ... Clumsy reckless, looks all arms and legs at times, needs more control.
Barriere ... Overly conventional, should to commit to one style or another.
Miljas ... Square straight up and robotic, powerful but one dimensional.
Tshikeva ... Wild, his approach works against his skills.
Jolly ... Low on the boxing skill but big and strong.
Titus ... Sluggish but can dig deep.
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Evander wrote: 30 Mar 2023, 04:10 I did quick brief look at all of their styles in a flash so to speak, this isn't an in depth.
Veletic ... Needs to up his boxing skills, likes to admire his work.
Mireless ... Clumsy reckless, looks all arms and legs at times, needs more control.
Barriere ... Overly conventional, should to commit to one style or another.
Miljas ... Square straight up and robotic, powerful but one dimensional.
Tshikeva ... Wild, his approach works against his skills.
Jolly ... Low on the boxing skill but big and strong.
Titus ... Sluggish but can dig deep.
All of the above will be fighting for the " I'm going nowhere belt. Having a " jolly " good time watching them all step up and please do provide a bit more detail. Jake Paul has some competition. Too bad can't be hyped. Well, maybe the 6'9". Mireless, that gawky looking clumsy man can. He sure has taking a fall down well. He might have the biggest nose in boxing!
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KiwiRider wrote: 29 Mar 2023, 17:01
IRONFIST wrote: 29 Mar 2023, 09:21 Sounds like a who's who? As in who the heck are they??? :maybe:

Had a look at this Jolly chap on youtube, a moustache from the 70's and a hairstyle from the 80's :lol:
Oi!
That is the height of men's fashion down under thank you! :shame:
:lol: The chap seems a bit of a character though, :TU: I thought it was Darts player Steve Beaton at one point.
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