Joyce would walk through Franklin and stop him. I wouldn't be so confident about the other two.mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 18:41Dubious would knock him out. So would Joyce, maybe even Wardley.stevec@france wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 18:38 franklin is a tough mutha and a hard nights work for anyone .
Good test for a 70 % ish performance from joshua .
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
I don't think it's a good look considering this guy was supposed to be brought in as cannon fodder for Joshua and yet the man goes the whole 12 rounds. I won't be surprised if Tyson Fury jumps all over this, unless Joshua purposely held back.
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The AJ you saw tonight?margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 20:05 ddd was bounced off the canvas by kev lerena, i wouldnt be so confident he runs through aj
He got the job done, granted, but it wasn't inspiring was it?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
a massive step up from anyone dub has beat, it wasn't inspiring but he's still a top hwKiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 23:01The AJ you saw tonight?margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 20:05 ddd was bounced off the canvas by kev lerena, i wouldnt be so confident he runs through aj
He got the job done, granted, but it wasn't inspiring was it?
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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 23:04a massive step up from anyone dub has beat, it wasn't inspiring but he's still a top hwKiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 23:01The AJ you saw tonight?margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 20:05 ddd was bounced off the canvas by kev lerena, i wouldnt be so confident he runs through aj
He got the job done, granted, but it wasn't inspiring was it?
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
Good comparison. Awful fight against a limited opponent, AJ looks a shadow of who he once was.
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It could be argued that even Franklin is a massive step up from anyone that Dubois has beat, let alone Joshuamargaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 23:04a massive step up from anyone dub has beat, it wasn't inspiring but he's still a top hwKiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 23:01The AJ you saw tonight?margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 20:05 ddd was bounced off the canvas by kev lerena, i wouldnt be so confident he runs through aj
He got the job done, granted, but it wasn't inspiring was it?
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
considering he came in at his heaviest i dod think he might empty late on but didnt look like he was
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
Just watched it knowing the result ..
I guess it was a very subdued fight against a genuinely live opponent, most were expecting AJ to demolish Franklin at some stage, but he seemed content to get a very safe win. That may be part of a bigger plan if he really does fight another 2x this year as planned. To build confidence for the big push this time next year.
Quite a few comments online how Fury and Joyce would beat that AJ .. I not so sure. Joyce would be getting hit
alot and whilst there is a possibility he wears AJ out by doing so, those big AJ punches could also wear Joyce out too.
I still think it's 50/50 at this stage for AJ against Fury.
I guess it was a very subdued fight against a genuinely live opponent, most were expecting AJ to demolish Franklin at some stage, but he seemed content to get a very safe win. That may be part of a bigger plan if he really does fight another 2x this year as planned. To build confidence for the big push this time next year.
Quite a few comments online how Fury and Joyce would beat that AJ .. I not so sure. Joyce would be getting hit
alot and whilst there is a possibility he wears AJ out by doing so, those big AJ punches could also wear Joyce out too.
I still think it's 50/50 at this stage for AJ against Fury.
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Fell asleep, just watched the rerun, Franklin won 3 rounds, AJ won the rest, Good fight with nice niggle at the end
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
You're letting your dislike of Fury cloud your judgement. He should be at least 3-1 against Fury. Joyce wouldn't get hit a lot, either. AJ throws single punches nowadays, he wouldn't last six rounds if he throws combinations.tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:44 Just watched it knowing the result ..
I guess it was a very subdued fight against a genuinely live opponent, most were expecting AJ to demolish Franklin at some stage, but he seemed content to get a very safe win. That may be part of a bigger plan if he really does fight another 2x this year as planned. To build confidence for the big push this time next year.
Quite a few comments online how Fury and Joyce would beat that AJ .. I not so sure. Joyce would be getting alot and whilst there is a possibility he wears AJ out by doing so, those big AJ punches could also wear Joyce out too.
I still think it's 50/50 at this stage for AJ against Fury.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
Fury goes 12 with Wallin - silence.
Joshua goes 12 with Franklin - ‘he’s done, he needs to retire, he’s finished at the top level’
Joshua goes 12 with Franklin - ‘he’s done, he needs to retire, he’s finished at the top level’
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
This reminds me of Oscar De La Hoya vs Steve Forbes. Oscar coming off a loss to Mayweather got a really average win against an average fighter. Couldn't pull the trigger and in the next fight against Pacquaio is really exposed as the shot fighter we saw against Forbes. I think Joshua has reached this point of his career.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
That may well be a possibility, but in same way, your dislike for AJ may be clouding your judgement too.mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:47You're letting your dislike of Fury cloud your judgement. He should be at least 3-1 against Fury. Joyce wouldn't get hit a lot, either. AJ throws single punches nowadays, he wouldn't last six rounds if he throws combinations.tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:44 Just watched it knowing the result ..
I guess it was a very subdued fight against a genuinely live opponent, most were expecting AJ to demolish Franklin at some stage, but he seemed content to get a very safe win. That may be part of a bigger plan if he really does fight another 2x this year as planned. To build confidence for the big push this time next year.
Quite a few comments online how Fury and Joyce would beat that AJ .. I not so sure. Joyce would be getting alot and whilst there is a possibility he wears AJ out by doing so, those big AJ punches could also wear Joyce out too.
I still think it's 50/50 at this stage for AJ against Fury.
Based on Fury's last 2 fights and AJs last 2 fights there really isn't a lot in it when opponents are considered. I'd put that Franklin as stiffer/sturdier opposition than Whyte (I know their fight result).
And Wilder 3 v Usyk 2 is simply no comparison.
Joyce absorbs big punches every fight - why would AJ be no different?
I'd agree that Joyce would start favourite against AJ .. but that's based on AJ not looking the wrecking ball he previously did; but he just fights differently now.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
Joyce has got to be the most overrated fighter going. Any top 5 heavyweight will beat him, he takes far too many shots. He looked poor against Takam then beat Parker who is absolutely shite these days and you get clowns saying he’d beat Usyk off the back of it 
Top 5 plus Zhang *
Top 5 plus Zhang *
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
I remember the masses were saying the same after Fury's win over Pianeta, Joshua's definitely lost something but he's always fancied himself as a boxer, even from day 1 he's talked about learning, improving, not making mistakes etc, he's definitely inspired by Lewis and Wlad, it's a pity he didn't get the KO but he comfortably beat a potential banana skin, Franklin reminded me a bit of Ruiz when I was watching, short in stature but fast, had a quick jab and pretty speedy combinations, Franklin's no world beater but he should've got the win over Whyte therefore should've been regarded as a top 10 heavyweight
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
Every time Joyce steps up I think "surely that won't work at this level", but I've been wrong every time. Very interested to see how far he can go
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He keeps beating everyone they put in front of him.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
Fury beat Wilder, who hits a few hundred times harder than Usyk. There are no comparisons between those two because they are polar opposite fighters.tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:56That may well be a possibility, but in same way, your dislike for AJ may be clouding your judgement too.mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:47You're letting your dislike of Fury cloud your judgement. He should be at least 3-1 against Fury. Joyce wouldn't get hit a lot, either. AJ throws single punches nowadays, he wouldn't last six rounds if he throws combinations.tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:44 Just watched it knowing the result ..
I guess it was a very subdued fight against a genuinely live opponent, most were expecting AJ to demolish Franklin at some stage, but he seemed content to get a very safe win. That may be part of a bigger plan if he really does fight another 2x this year as planned. To build confidence for the big push this time next year.
Quite a few comments online how Fury and Joyce would beat that AJ .. I not so sure. Joyce would be getting alot and whilst there is a possibility he wears AJ out by doing so, those big AJ punches could also wear Joyce out too.
I still think it's 50/50 at this stage for AJ against Fury.
Based on Fury's last 2 fights and AJs last 2 fights there really isn't a lot in it when opponents are considered. I'd put that Franklin as stiffer/sturdier opposition than Whyte (I know their fight result).
And Wilder 3 v Usyk 2 is simply no comparison.
Joyce absorbs big punches every fight - why would AJ be no different?
I'd agree that Joyce would start favourite against AJ .. but that's based on AJ not looking the wrecking ball he previously did; but he just fights differently now.
Which fight result do you know? Whyte sparked out by Fury or Whyte beating Franklin? I don't get it. Franklin isn't very good. I would put money on Dubious knocking him out. Dillian nearly had him out of there an awful lot more than AJ.
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Your bias really showing through now Mick.mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 04:23Fury beat Wilder, who hits a few hundred times harder than Usyk. There are no comparisons between those two because they are polar opposite fighters.tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:56That may well be a possibility, but in same way, your dislike for AJ may be clouding your judgement too.mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:47
You're letting your dislike of Fury cloud your judgement. He should be at least 3-1 against Fury. Joyce wouldn't get hit a lot, either. AJ throws single punches nowadays, he wouldn't last six rounds if he throws combinations.
Based on Fury's last 2 fights and AJs last 2 fights there really isn't a lot in it when opponents are considered. I'd put that Franklin as stiffer/sturdier opposition than Whyte (I know their fight result).
And Wilder 3 v Usyk 2 is simply no comparison.
Joyce absorbs big punches every fight - why would AJ be no different?
I'd agree that Joyce would start favourite against AJ .. but that's based on AJ not looking the wrecking ball he previously did; but he just fights differently now.
Which fight result do you know? Whyte sparked out by Fury or Whyte beating Franklin? I don't get it. Franklin isn't very good. I would put money on Dubious knocking him out. Dillian nearly had him out of there an awful lot more than AJ.
I agree Wilder hits harder than Usyk - a few hundred times harder ..
But I'd say Usyk hits harder than Cunningham.
I meant Whyte getting the dubious decision over Franklin .. who you state isn't very good .. then by default Fury sparking Whyte holds little weight.
Whyte only fights one way - do or die .. which nowadays sees him looking more fragile and quite dramatically starched.
Fury hasn't looked great in his last 2 fights. Because AJ wasn't the wrecking ball of old last night doesn't make Fury any better ..
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
Just caught up on this. Clear win and I guess we don’t know how good Franklin is.
Thing that struck me most was the lack of speed in AJ’s work - both in throwing punches and his footwork.
He was like a 45rpm record being played at 33rpm.
What’s all that about?
Is he hesitant because he’s gunshy? Or because he’s trying to work on new things and piece it all together?
Thing that struck me most was the lack of speed in AJ’s work - both in throwing punches and his footwork.
He was like a 45rpm record being played at 33rpm.
What’s all that about?
Is he hesitant because he’s gunshy? Or because he’s trying to work on new things and piece it all together?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
What has Cunningham got to do with it? Because he floored Fury 10 years ago before getting bullied and stopped by the much bigger man? What has Tyson done wrong in his last two fights? They were non competitive!tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 05:00Your bias really showing through now Mick.mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 04:23Fury beat Wilder, who hits a few hundred times harder than Usyk. There are no comparisons between those two because they are polar opposite fighters.tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 03:56
That may well be a possibility, but in same way, your dislike for AJ may be clouding your judgement too.
Based on Fury's last 2 fights and AJs last 2 fights there really isn't a lot in it when opponents are considered. I'd put that Franklin as stiffer/sturdier opposition than Whyte (I know their fight result).
And Wilder 3 v Usyk 2 is simply no comparison.
Joyce absorbs big punches every fight - why would AJ be no different?
I'd agree that Joyce would start favourite against AJ .. but that's based on AJ not looking the wrecking ball he previously did; but he just fights differently now.
Which fight result do you know? Whyte sparked out by Fury or Whyte beating Franklin? I don't get it. Franklin isn't very good. I would put money on Dubious knocking him out. Dillian nearly had him out of there an awful lot more than AJ.
I agree Wilder hits harder than Usyk - a few hundred times harder .... we too old for school playground now Mick
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But I'd say Usyk hits harder than Cunningham.
I meant Whyte getting the dubious decision over Franklin .. who you state isn't very good .. then by default Fury sparking Whyte holds little weight.
Whyte only fights one way - do or die .. which nowadays sees him looking more fragile and quite dramatically starched.
Fury hasn't looked great in his last 2 fights. Because AJ wasn't the wrecking ball of old last night doesn't make Fury any better ..
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin | DAZN - 1 April 2023
Think we need to remember, people who are saying Joshua aint the same monster since getting battered by Ruiz or even dropped by Klitschko, the invincible fasade works both ways, Joshua may be more hesitant but also now his opponents are more willing to engage now they see the vulnerabilities
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Same, he keeps winning and nothing seems to phase or slow him down.martinmrts wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 04:10Every time Joyce steps up I think "surely that won't work at this level", but I've been wrong every time. Very interested to see how far he can go
It has to be doing him damage taking all those flush shots to the head