Conor Benn - What Next?

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Post by Twinkle Toes »

Benn deserves no sympathy.

He rocks up to the fight last night with a minder and refuses point blank to do any interviews. Why? I mean he's declared himself innocent of being a drug cheat, so what's the problem. There is nothing to hide is there.
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Twinkle Toes wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 07:44 Benn deserves no sympathy.

He rocks up to the fight last night with a minder and refuses point blank to do any interviews. Why? I mean he's declared himself innocent of being a drug cheat, so what's the problem. There is nothing to hide is there.
And even worse than all of that, he had a vest on.
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a force wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 03:32 I hope Cash has popped dirty. He’s 100% at it & confirmation of that would surely be the end of Benn’s attempts to fight anytime soon. Remember both of them were training & living together on the Isle of Wight for one of the two failed tests.
Since Benn’s failed tests there’s been 4 pullouts from the Sims gym and only 1 fight has gone ahead...

Cash last performance (2 months after Benn’s failed test) he looked terrible then he pulls out of this one. The year before he battered Denzel Bentley who Janibek failed to put a dent in.

Craig Richards pulled out of his last 2 fights, both after Benn had failed his tests.

Cordina miraculously developed one punch power when fighting a world champion despite previously being very feather fisted.

Benn himself - absolutely crap then suddenly starts ironing out former world champions.
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Spud wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 05:13 I cannot believe the attitude and arrogance of the man.
Especially as he has nothing to be arrogant about
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ashall2 wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 07:52
a force wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 03:32 I hope Cash has popped dirty. He’s 100% at it & confirmation of that would surely be the end of Benn’s attempts to fight anytime soon. Remember both of them were training & living together on the Isle of Wight for one of the two failed tests.
Since Benn’s failed tests there’s been 4 pullouts from the Sims gym and only 1 fight has gone ahead...

Cash last performance (2 months after Benn’s failed test) he looked terrible then he pulls out of this one. The year before he battered Denzel Bentley who Janibek failed to put a dent in.

Craig Richards pulled out of his last 2 fights, both after Benn had failed his tests.

Cordina miraculously developed one punch power when fighting a world champion despite previously being very feather fisted.

Benn himself - absolutely crap then suddenly starts ironing out former world champions.
You’d have to wonder if Dr. Usman Sajjad is the connecting link.
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To give it some context, I don’t like Connor Benn, he makes that near impossible, I’m not a fan either I think I’ve only probably see one of his fights. And I’m not defending him. I just couldn’t help but feel some sympathy after what is it now? three or four months of receiving a non-stop kicking, and knowing he’s gonna forever be the punchline to a joke.
If he decided, god forbid, to end it all, I think a lot of people will be given pause for thought.
What I find glaring about the whole thing is the way other boxers get a pass.

Where’s all the same hatred for Tyson Fury? Why is that brushed under the carpet by millions?

Some of my favourite boxers got busted for the same reasons, Fernando Vargas, James Toney, Roy Jones, yet continued their careers with barely a blip. It’s common knowledge that the great Evander Holyfield cheated as well ( he could’ve killed someone as well, right? )
Where is the hatred there? Aren’t some of these fighters now in the Hall of Fame? I’m pretty certain his dad was on the same gear training out in Tenerife as well.

Why was alexander povetkin continually given a pass to fight here in the uk, and get world title shots?

And does anyone here really think that Pacman didn’t cheat as well? Don’t forget, Lance Armstrong, never tested positive either, but we all knew the guy was a low down cheat ..

it seems to me that Connor Benn is getting an almighty kicking to make up for all the other ones that are getting away with it.
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MightyWarrior wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 08:32 To give it some context, I don’t like Connor Benn, he makes that near impossible, I’m not a fan either I think I’ve only probably see one of his fights. And I’m not defending him. I just couldn’t help but feel some sympathy after what is it now? three or four months of receiving a non-stop kicking, and knowing he’s gonna forever be the punchline to a joke.
If he decided, god forbid, to end it all, I think a lot of people will be given pause for thought.
What I find glaring about the whole thing is the way the other boxes get a pass.

Where’s all the same hatred for Tyson Fury? Why is that brushed under the carpet by millions?

Some of my favourite boxers got busted for the same reasons, Fernando Vargas, James Toney, Roy Jones, yet continued their careers with barely a blip. It’s common knowledge that the great Evander Holyfield cheated as well ( he could’ve killed someone as well, right? )
Where is the hatred there? Aren’t some of these fighters now in the Hall of Fame? I’m pretty certain his dad was on the same gear training out in Tenerife as well.

Why was alexander povetkin continually given a pass to fight here in the uk, and get world title shots?

And does anyone here really think that Pacman didn’t cheat as well? Don’t forget, Lance Armstrong, never tested positive either, but we all knew the guy was a low down cheat ..

it seems to me that Connor Benn is getting an almighty kicking to make up for all the other ones that are getting away with it.
Agree with all of that re. other fighters who have popped. I’ve no sympathy for any of them. Equally guys who have ‘missed’ a test, or any other shite, either sign up to be tested, and and out of camp, or sod off. Who pays for it is another matter.
As for feeling bad if Benn, or anyone else ended it due to all this? I’ll be honest, if you’ve cheated in a sport to gain an advantage where the end result is you could kill someone? I’ll get over that result pretty sharpish.
That might seem bloody hard but if you dope and kill someone in the ring in doing so that’s no better than murder. It’s a choice to dope, I’ve no sympathy for anyone who does
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Post by Terminator666 »

I agree too. With Connor Benn and the YouTubers though, they all want instant millions without fighting anyone of note. That rankles with me. Then on top of that he fails a drug test twice.
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MightyWarrior wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 08:32 it seems to me that Connor Benn is getting an almighty kicking to make up for all the other ones that are getting away with it.
Mate, i normally always find myself in strong agreement with you on here across a range of topics, but I think respectfully you're missing the point on this one.
The kicking is nothing to do with making up for all the other cheats IMO and everything to do with his reaction. The others you've mentioned have just stayed quiet and tried to stay under the radar while dealing with the authorities behind the scene, whereas Benn has been incredibly vocal, attacking everyone from his online' haters' through to the BBBC and VADA, while making grand (and vague) proclamations of how he is going to be cleared.
I'm sorry, but any boxer adopting such a high profile, aggressive stance that reeks of entitlement and arrogance, while also insulting the intelligence of anyone with the slightest knowledge of the specifics of the situation and refusing to answer valid questions, is inviting a 'kicking'.
What's unique here is not the situation, it's the way Benn has handled it. That's the critical difference, not that those of us criticising him are somehow seeking to make him a sacrificial lamb. Don't confuse cause and effect.
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Post by Frostieballs »

I think the problem with Benn is that he has doubled down on his position.

Most others who have popped tend to keep their heads down and wait for the storm to pass.

Benn has come out and demanded we all apologise to him and even used his dad’s fight with Gerald McClellan as evidence that he wouldn’t cheat. I think Senior has even said that he would disown him if he took PEDs.

If he’s not genuinely innocent that is quite a path to take.

Redemption is always possible. I suspect many boxers are juicing and it is part of the culture. We are all the product of people around us and boxing is full of machismo, win at all cost types. It is harder to forgive someone though when they don’t help themselves.
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MightyWarrior wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 08:32 To give it some context, I don’t like Connor Benn, he makes that near impossible, I’m not a fan either I think I’ve only probably see one of his fights. And I’m not defending him. I just couldn’t help but feel some sympathy after what is it now? three or four months of receiving a non-stop kicking, and knowing he’s gonna forever be the punchline to a joke.
If he decided, god forbid, to end it all, I think a lot of people will be given pause for thought.
What I find glaring about the whole thing is the way other boxers get a pass.

Where’s all the same hatred for Tyson Fury? Why is that brushed under the carpet by millions?

Some of my favourite boxers got busted for the same reasons, Fernando Vargas, James Toney, Roy Jones, yet continued their careers with barely a blip. It’s common knowledge that the great Evander Holyfield cheated as well ( he could’ve killed someone as well, right? )
Where is the hatred there? Aren’t some of these fighters now in the Hall of Fame? I’m pretty certain his dad was on the same gear training out in Tenerife as well.

Why was alexander povetkin continually given a pass to fight here in the uk, and get world title shots?

And does anyone here really think that Pacman didn’t cheat as well? Don’t forget, Lance Armstrong, never tested positive either, but we all knew the guy was a low down cheat ..

it seems to me that Connor Benn is getting an almighty kicking to make up for all the other ones that are getting away with it.
I’ve got no sympathy for a man who illegally tries to increase his own power and strength when his job is to punch people in the head. This isn’t cycling or sprinting.
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MightyWarrior wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 08:32 To give it some context, I don’t like Connor Benn, he makes that near impossible, I’m not a fan either I think I’ve only probably see one of his fights. And I’m not defending him. I just couldn’t help but feel some sympathy after what is it now? three or four months of receiving a non-stop kicking, and knowing he’s gonna forever be the punchline to a joke.
If he decided, god forbid, to end it all, I think a lot of people will be given pause for thought.
What I find glaring about the whole thing is the way other boxers get a pass.

Where’s all the same hatred for Tyson Fury? Why is that brushed under the carpet by millions?

Some of my favourite boxers got busted for the same reasons, Fernando Vargas, James Toney, Roy Jones, yet continued their careers with barely a blip. It’s common knowledge that the great Evander Holyfield cheated as well ( he could’ve killed someone as well, right? )
Where is the hatred there? Aren’t some of these fighters now in the Hall of Fame? I’m pretty certain his dad was on the same gear training out in Tenerife as well.

Why was alexander povetkin continually given a pass to fight here in the uk, and get world title shots?

And does anyone here really think that Pacman didn’t cheat as well? Don’t forget, Lance Armstrong, never tested positive either, but we all knew the guy was a low down cheat ..

it seems to me that Connor Benn is getting an almighty kicking to make up for all the other ones that are getting away with it.
benn has had a pampered, privleged career and when he got caught cheating acted like a total entitled utter dick flute, i dont get feeling sorry for him at all, bizarre tbh
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MightyWarrior wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 08:32 To give it some context, I don’t like Connor Benn, he makes that near impossible, I’m not a fan either I think I’ve only probably see one of his fights. And I’m not defending him. I just couldn’t help but feel some sympathy after what is it now? three or four months of receiving a non-stop kicking, and knowing he’s gonna forever be the punchline to a joke.
If he decided, god forbid, to end it all, I think a lot of people will be given pause for thought.
What I find glaring about the whole thing is the way other boxers get a pass.

Where’s all the same hatred for Tyson Fury? Why is that brushed under the carpet by millions?

Some of my favourite boxers got busted for the same reasons, Fernando Vargas, James Toney, Roy Jones, yet continued their careers with barely a blip. It’s common knowledge that the great Evander Holyfield cheated as well ( he could’ve killed someone as well, right? )
Where is the hatred there? Aren’t some of these fighters now in the Hall of Fame? I’m pretty certain his dad was on the same gear training out in Tenerife as well.

Why was alexander povetkin continually given a pass to fight here in the uk, and get world title shots?

And does anyone here really think that Pacman didn’t cheat as well? Don’t forget, Lance Armstrong, never tested positive either, but we all knew the guy was a low down cheat ..

it seems to me that Connor Benn is getting an almighty kicking to make up for all the other ones that are getting away with it.

great post but today its alot more magnified with social media im sure in time it will quieten down
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ashall2 wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 07:52
a force wrote: 02 Apr 2023, 03:32 I hope Cash has popped dirty. He’s 100% at it & confirmation of that would surely be the end of Benn’s attempts to fight anytime soon. Remember both of them were training & living together on the Isle of Wight for one of the two failed tests.
Since Benn’s failed tests there’s been 4 pullouts from the Sims gym and only 1 fight has gone ahead...

Cash last performance (2 months after Benn’s failed test) he looked terrible then he pulls out of this one. The year before he battered Denzel Bentley who Janibek failed to put a dent in.

Craig Richards pulled out of his last 2 fights, both after Benn had failed his tests.

Cordina miraculously developed one punch power when fighting a world champion despite previously being very feather fisted.

Benn himself - absolutely crap then suddenly starts ironing out former world champions.
Exactly 👏. We don’t have to be geniuses to see what’s going off there do we
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Benn says he is grateful for the continued support … where are these supporters?

Next question and I am repeating it…

To convince the more sceptical boxing fan when is Conor Benn going to release the necessary information which clears him unequivocally of any wrong doing with regards to 2 Failed drugs tests?
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Spud wrote: 03 Apr 2023, 08:25 Benn says he is grateful for the continued support … where are these supporters?

Next question and I am repeating it…

To convince the more sceptical boxing fan when is Conor Benn going to release the necessary information which clears him unequivocally of any wrong doing with regards to 2 Failed drugs tests?
Not allowed to talk about it Lawyers told Benn if he releases it there gonna sue him :lol: :lol:
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Spud wrote: 03 Apr 2023, 08:25 Benn says he is grateful for the continued support … where are these supporters?

Next question and I am repeating it…

To convince the more sceptical boxing fan when is Conor Benn going to release the necessary information which clears him unequivocally of any wrong doing with regards to 2 Failed drugs tests?
Stay tuned Spud
It will all be revealed imminently
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I will be the first to apologise to Conor.
If i have this wrong
And I’m just a fifty something no-mark whl loves the sport.

However, this bloody stinks
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It will be interesting to see if Dr Usman Sajjad ends up outing a load of fighters like Benn, Tyson and Tommy Fury, Joseph Parker, Paddy Pimblett, etc as going on various cycles to boost their testosterone. In cycling USADA did eventually catch up with the notorious Dr Michele Ferrari and issue him with a lifetime ban. UKAD seem a bit toothless though in comparison in terms of investigative will.
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polecateddy wrote: 03 Apr 2023, 15:08 It will be interesting to see if Dr Usman Sajjad ends up outing a load of fighters like Benn, Tyson and Tommy Fury, Joseph Parker, Paddy Pimblett, etc as going on various cycles to boost their testosterone. In cycling USADA did eventually catch up with the notorious Dr Michele Ferrari and issue him with a lifetime ban. UKAD seem a bit toothless though in comparison in terms of investigative will.
Not Paddy “the baddie” too ?
This is getting deep now folks
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Can boxrec together with some journalists (with cohones) really b n ail the corruption within boxing
Or is it still Irish/Italian mob oriented

That question needs to be asked
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si7dog7 wrote: 03 Apr 2023, 15:25 Can boxrec together with some journalists (with cohones) really b n ail the corruption within boxing
Or is it still Irish/Italian mob oriented

That question needs to be asked
There does seem a bit more of a "Omertà" Mafia code of silence in boxing. Not many tell-all stories. Presumably because it’s such a top-loaded sport of haves and have nots, that the Benn’s of this world will just try to sue you into oblivion if you say too much.
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Thanks for sharing. That was a fascinating little read.

Good writer is Donald McRae. Dark Trade is a great read.

This article really shines a light on Hearn. Eddie will not enjoy this and is being firmly dragged into the murky world of peds and questions raised about his integrity, or a lack of. This does not help his image and at a time when DAZN is struggling in the uk and Eddie has been losing fighters.
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Brilliant.
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