Most Limited Champion?

[HomicideHenry]

Who do you think was the most limited champion per weight class or out of the major weight classes?

[elmersalsa]

For me was Ricardo Mayorga. How did he became world champion is mind boggling to me.

Another one that comes to my concienceness is Rafael "Bazooka" Limon. He had no skill in my view. How did he became world champion? I don't know.

[gilgamesh]

At Heavyweight I'd say Wilder

I remember Carlos Baldomir was amazingly average for a guy who won the Welterweight crown, and defended it once.

Did Daniel Ponce De Leon ever win a title? I don't remember, but if he did he was an extremely limited dude.

[DrDuke]

Valuev is the most limited title-holder p4p ever.

Walk, paw with the jab, throw right hand sometimes.

[goose 5]

Rolly Romero.

[margaret thatcher]

ponce was a good boxer puncher, a bit too skilled for this one

provo was sheer strength, chin, and determination. even john molina outboxed him

[franciscojavier]

At Heavyweight I'd say Wilder

I remember Carlos Baldomir was amazingly average for a guy who won the Welterweight crown, and defended it once.

Did Daniel Ponce De Leon ever win a title? I don't remember, but if he did he was an extremely limited dude.

He won two belts, WBO at 122 and WBC at 126. His wins over Peñalosa and Jhonny González aged very well, and he definitely had some skills, just was too open for punches as we saw against JuanMa.

[gregregegg]

Im not much of a historian... but in recent memory.

Charles martin.

Julius Indongo (unified too...)

Jeff horn (there have been significantly worse champs, but the fact he did it at welter, the deepest division is just amazing)

[gilgamesh]

Im not much of a historian... but in recent memory.

Charles martin.

Julius Indongo (unified too...)

Jeff horn (there have been significantly worse champs, but the fact he did it at welter, the deepest division is just amazing)

Horn didn't really do it though. He got a gift decision in his home country in a fight he clearly lost.

[gregregegg]

Im not much of a historian... but in recent memory.

Charles martin.

Julius Indongo (unified too...)

Jeff horn (there have been significantly worse champs, but the fact he did it at welter, the deepest division is just amazing)

Horn didn't really do it though. He got a gift decision in his home country in a fight he clearly lost.

But he won in my eyes (bias and drunk at an australian pub).... and defended it against the great Gary Corcoran.....

Fvck horn was tough, school teacher, then fought Pac, craw, Couple fights up 2 weights, Tim tszyu.... and just had a fornicating go and never gave up.
-that round 9 beating of pac was sickening....
-the round 9 beating of zerafa was worse...
-the round 9 beating in the 2nd zerafa fight was pretty fvcking bad untill horn dinged him (round of the year for me),
- round 9 vs craw could of gone very bad with a different ref...
-tszyu couldent put him away after 8 rounds of beating the sh!t out of him (corner pulled it after 8 thankfully cause could of been another horror 9th round...)

[Ezzard]

I thought Horn won too.

[Teddy's Toupee]

Carlos Maussa

[Bodyshot3]

Valuev was hugely basic yet bizarrely effective up to a point.

Going back (a seriously long way) I can remember Gene 'Mad Dog' Hatcher who was a bona fide light-welter champ getting absolutely blitzed by Honeyghan in 45 seconds and not really knowing what the feck he was doing.

I am sure Hatcher was better than that but he came at Honeyghan as if it were a pub scrap.

[Redback Rasta]

The original aim of boxing was to knock out your opponent. That is how you won fights back in the day. For that reason I don't class knockout specialists as limited. They are proficient at winning in the manner boxing initially intended. Knockouts are the home runs of boxing. Limited is when you aren't capable of hitting home runs.

[giacomino]

Primo Carnera.
Limón is a good shout out. Probably had less fínesse than anybody I can remember who won a belt. Fun to watch though. His fights with Chacon were awesome

[hhaehre]

Dennis Andries was pretty limited. Was in some great fights though and overachieved substantially.

[locoxelbox]

Not a major weight class but Luiz Lazarte was a pretty weak champion. Lost in his first four world title attempts, was disqualified five times, was 0-4 outside of his home country, etc.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/7965

[elmersalsa]

How about Rafael Ruelas?

[Redback Rasta]

I thought Horn won too.

and me and many others.

[Redback Rasta]

Charles Martin is a reasonable call.

"Walked this earth like a God" or so he thought.

:doh:

[tiny_acres]

Bermane Stiverne not only lost the belt to Wilder.
He lost the belt being out boxed 10-2 in rounds.

Bermane is the most limited champion

[rob h]

Straight away thought of Maussa

[Ruthless-RKO]

Im not much of a historian... but in recent memory

Julius Indongo (unified too...)

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/503822

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Record
W		L	D
24		10	0
13 KOs		7 KOs	

Looking now, he's had a real fall..

He just came about at a lucky time and managed to get an undisputed shot against Crawford

[wouter]

How about Rafael Ruelas?

Why would you say that?

[bennie]

How about Rafael Ruelas?

Why would you say that?

I was thinking the same thing. Ruelas was an incredibly strong lightweight.