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[SportsRatings]

Put the heavyweights ratings back to what they were, how can you have Usyk down at 27 p4p and ratings-wise suggest there is barely any top heavyweights.

I wonder what Usyk would rank p4p when he was still at cruiserweight. Seems like he would be near the top.

Did he actually drop p4p spots by moving up to HW and beating Joshua twice?

[margaret thatcher]

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?sex=M&div ... t&offset=0

Why is Kambosos ranked higher than Devin Haney???

i think that one may actually be a glitch, since we have the 'cant be ahead of guy who just beat you' rule

[Lackeos]

There was definitely some severe anti-heavyweight update recently. I remember recently there was something like 4 heavyweights in the top 7 p4p and another was like 11 or 17 or something. Now those fighters have dropped to #9, #28, #42, #91, and #154.

[computerrank]

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?sex=M&div ... t&offset=0

Why is Kambosos ranked higher than Devin Haney???

Thanks for the hint - that was a bug in the implementation of winner above loser rule. The corrected release is in the pipeline ...

[computerrank]

There was definitely some severe anti-heavyweight update recently. I remember recently there was something like 4 heavyweights in the top 7 p4p and another was like 11 or 17 or something. Now those fighters have dropped to #9, #28, #42, #91, and #154.

It wasn't an anti-heavyweight update.

Boxers in higher weight division were seeded higher than boxers in lower weight divisions before. Now boxers in all weight division are seeded equal.

So in fact a preference for higher weight divisions was eliminated.

[computerrank]

Put the heavyweights ratings back to what they were, how can you have Usyk down at 27 p4p and ratings-wise suggest there is barely any top heavyweights.

I wonder what Usyk would rank p4p when he was still at cruiserweight. Seems like he would be near the top.

Did he actually drop p4p spots by moving up to HW and beating Joshua twice?

If Usyk would be set to Cruiserweight, he would rank at #11 p4p.

[745051]

New release 1.1.7 is live.

Basic algorithm unchanged. A ratings cap is introduced.

The rating of a boxer may not be higher than twice the rating of his best defeated opponent within the last 3 years.

This limits the rating of a boxer, who only defeats relatively inferior opponents.

[745051]

I'm Raymond kupula former super lightweight pro boxer but now Boxing trainer manager promoter Matchmaker please can anyone help me to correct the problem I have now my boxer AUBIN BETU NDALA beat Darrin Rossouw in majority points decision but I checked the updated bouts but my Boxer AUBIN BETU NDALA ranting standing still please can anyone help me to correct it

[computerrank]

I'm Raymond kupula former super lightweight pro boxer but now Boxing trainer manager promoter Matchmaker please can anyone help me to correct the problem I have now my boxer AUBIN BETU NDALA beat Darrin Rossouw in majority points decision but I checked the updated bouts but my Boxer AUBIN BETU NDALA ranting standing still please can anyone help me to correct it

The result was entered today. The complete ratings are updated daily at about 5:10 am GMT. Please wait until tomorrow ...

[Lackeos]

George Kambosos Jr is ranked directly above Devin Haney. Kambosos's last 2 results were 2 losses to Haney. Haney's last 2 results are 2 losses to Kambosos. There's no way that this isn't a bug.

[margaret thatcher]

George Kambosos Jr is ranked directly above Devin Haney. Kambosos's last 2 results were 2 losses to Haney. Haney's last 2 results are 2 losses to Kambosos. There's no way that this isn't a bug.

read a few posts above bruh, it is a bug

[Manrae]

Comprank, would you mind breaking down the mathematics on how Kambosos is ranked higher than Lomachenko?
Normally, I wouldn't ask, but we can no longer see the numbers for ourselves

[AA484]

I've read the arguments for not posting the actual numbers for the ratings, but I think they should still be shown. The most helpful instance would be bringing back the ratings "before and after" in the matchup section. I follow the sport pretty closely, but sometimes I'd like to have a little bit better idea about how highly placed a "N/R" fighter is in a 4* matchup, as there is a pretty huge gap between the higher placed fighters and the lower placed fighters in those matchups.

If anything, maybe let us see what a N/R fighter's last ranking was before he/she was designated as "inactive."

[computerrank]

Comprank, would you mind breaking down the mathematics on how Kambosos is ranked higher than Lomachenko?
Normally, I wouldn't ask, but we can no longer see the numbers for ourselves

Kamboso defeated Lopez ...

[computerrank]

I've read the arguments for not posting the actual numbers for the ratings, but I think they should still be shown. The most helpful instance would be bringing back the ratings "before and after" in the matchup section. I follow the sport pretty closely, but sometimes I'd like to have a little bit better idea about how highly placed a "N/R" fighter is in a 4* matchup, as there is a pretty huge gap between the higher placed fighters and the lower placed fighters in those matchups.

If anything, maybe let us see what a N/R fighter's last ranking was before he/she was designated as "inactive."

Wrong place here for such suggestions ... please put it there:
viewtopic.php?p=5893381#p5893381

[AA484]

I've read the arguments for not posting the actual numbers for the ratings, but I think they should still be shown. The most helpful instance would be bringing back the ratings "before and after" in the matchup section. I follow the sport pretty closely, but sometimes I'd like to have a little bit better idea about how highly placed a "N/R" fighter is in a 4* matchup, as there is a pretty huge gap between the higher placed fighters and the lower placed fighters in those matchups.

If anything, maybe let us see what a N/R fighter's last ranking was before he/she was designated as "inactive."

Wrong place here for such suggestions ... please put it there:
viewtopic.php?p=5893381#p5893381

Noted; will do. Feel free to delete

[Manrae]

Comprank, would you mind breaking down the mathematics on how Kambosos is ranked higher than Lomachenko?
Normally, I wouldn't ask, but we can no longer see the numbers for ourselves

Kamboso defeated Lopez ...

No need to be a smart-ass, pudendum

[computerrank]

Comprank, would you mind breaking down the mathematics on how Kambosos is ranked higher than Lomachenko?
Normally, I wouldn't ask, but we can no longer see the numbers for ourselves

Kamboso defeated Lopez ...

No need to be a smart-ass, pudendum

The Lopez fight makes the difference as he was the highest rated opponent for both.

By the way, I don't think, your speech is near to acceptable, or?

[SportsRatings]

Bridgerweights are ranked now at HW?

When did this change? Before, I think Babic and the others weren't listed among the HW, now I see Babic and Lukasz Rozanski are in the top 50

[SportsRatings]

Zhang ahead of Hgrovic

I thought for 12 months, you couldn't be ahead of a fighter you lost to. Hrgovic beat Zhang in August 2022

[JCS]

Zhang ahead of Hgrovic

I thought for 12 months, you couldn't be ahead of a fighter you lost to. Hrgovic beat Zhang in August 2022

Zhang beating Joyce probably overcame that defeat, no?

[computerrank]

Zhang ahead of Hgrovic

I thought for 12 months, you couldn't be ahead of a fighter you lost to. Hrgovic beat Zhang in August 2022

Zhang beating Joyce probably overcame that defeat, no?

... exactly ...

[computerrank]

Bridgerweights are ranked now at HW?

When did this change? Before, I think Babic and the others weren't listed among the HW, now I see Babic and Lukasz Rozanski are in the top 50

The editors assign a boxer to a weight division. This is not part of the ratings algorithm.

[SportsRatings]

Zhang ahead of Hgrovic

I thought for 12 months, you couldn't be ahead of a fighter you lost to. Hrgovic beat Zhang in August 2022

Zhang beating Joyce probably overcame that defeat, no?

But shouldn't he still be behind Hrgovic? Maybe I have to go read the FAQ again...

[SportsRatings]

Zhang ahead of Hgrovic

I thought for 12 months, you couldn't be ahead of a fighter you lost to. Hrgovic beat Zhang in August 2022

Zhang beating Joyce probably overcame that defeat, no?

But shouldn't he still be behind Hrgovic? Maybe I have to go read the FAQ again...

Winner above loser:

For the last 18 months a winner of a fight is kept above the loser.


To me that sounds like the winner (Hrgovic) is kept above the loser (Zhang) for 18 months
It should probably say, "this can be overcome by the loser having success in the future over a higher-rated opponent" ?
I really thought that if Zhang moved up due to future results, Hrgovic would move up along with him to stay ahead; or that Zhang's "ceiling" would be Hrgovic for 18 months