Charles 'Doc' Broadus pro record?

[Controversial]

I saw the new "Big George Foreman" film and in the film the guy who discovered Foreman (Doc Broadus played by Forest Whitaker) told Foreman he was unbeaten as a pro when he was younger (I think he said 23 or 24 fights) but gave up boxing for another career. He then pointed to a photo of himself on the wall with gloves on and fists up. I can't see any fights on boxrec for him. Anyone know more about his career? Maybe fought under another name?

I found an interview with Broadus and in that it says he was 19-1 as a welterweight before retiring.

Edit: Also saw the bio below on him, said he was 100-0 as an amateur and unbeaten in 22 as a pro and retired after his first loss but not sure how accurate this is!

"Charles "DOC" Broadus was born in 1919 in Raleigh, North Carolina. He was a grandson of a slave and was an adolescent moonshine runner. As a teenager he boxed in a summer camp with Joe Louis. Joe told him once:" Young man you must pursue the art of boxing, you will be a great one day". And so he did. After a 100-0 record as an amateur he went on to become a professional where he suffered his first loss at 22 wins. At once he retired and became a trainer where Doc went on to become arguably one of the greatest trainers who has ever lived."

[wouter]

"Charles "DOC" Broadus was born in 1919 in Raleigh, North Carolina. He was a grandson of a slave and was an adolescent moonshine runner. As a teenager he boxed in a summer camp with Joe Louis. Joe told him once:" Young man you must pursue the art of boxing, you will be a great one day". And so he did. After a 100-0 record as an amateur he went on to become a professional where he suffered his first loss at 22 wins. At once he retired and became a trainer where Doc went on to become arguably one of the greatest trainers who has ever lived."

I think that has to be taken with a grain of salt. He was born in 1919 in California and moved to North Carolina at an early age. He may have done some fighting there, but by no means was he 100-0. Interestingly there was a black middleweight named Chuck Broadus who fought out of Des Moines and later moved to Denver where he would fight under the name of Chuck Caldwell.

[margaret thatcher]

100-0 as an amateur......LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[gilgamesh]

I saw the new "Big George Foreman" film and in the film the guy who discovered Foreman (Doc Broadus played by Forest Whitaker) told Foreman he was unbeaten as a pro when he was younger (I think he said 23 or 24 fights) but gave up boxing for another career. He then pointed to a photo of himself on the wall with gloves on and fists up. I can't see any fights on boxrec for him. Anyone know more about his career? Maybe fought under another name?

I found an interview with Broadus and in that it says he was 19-1 as a welterweight before retiring.

Edit: Also saw the bio below on him, said he was 100-0 as an amateur and unbeaten in 22 as a pro and retired after his first loss but not sure how accurate this is!

"Charles "DOC" Broadus was born in 1919 in Raleigh, North Carolina. He was a grandson of a slave and was an adolescent moonshine runner. As a teenager he boxed in a summer camp with Joe Louis. Joe told him once:" Young man you must pursue the art of boxing, you will be a great one day". And so he did. After a 100-0 record as an amateur he went on to become a professional where he suffered his first loss at 22 wins. At once he retired and became a trainer where Doc went on to become arguably one of the greatest trainers who has ever lived."

The 100-0 stat and retired unbeaten after 22 is obvious bullsh*t. If the man himself said he was 19-1 as a Welterweight as a Pro, then there ya go

[Controversial]

"Charles "DOC" Broadus was born in 1919 in Raleigh, North Carolina. He was a grandson of a slave and was an adolescent moonshine runner. As a teenager he boxed in a summer camp with Joe Louis. Joe told him once:" Young man you must pursue the art of boxing, you will be a great one day". And so he did. After a 100-0 record as an amateur he went on to become a professional where he suffered his first loss at 22 wins. At once he retired and became a trainer where Doc went on to become arguably one of the greatest trainers who has ever lived."

I think that has to be taken with a grain of salt. He was born in 1919 in California and moved to North Carolina at an early age. He may have done some fighting there, but by no means was he 100-0. Interestingly there was a black middleweight named Chuck Broadus who fought out of Des Moines and later moved to Denver where he would fight under the name of Chuck Caldwell.

Yes I agree highly dubious claims, I just posted it as it mentioned his pro record.

[Controversial]

I saw the new "Big George Foreman" film and in the film the guy who discovered Foreman (Doc Broadus played by Forest Whitaker) told Foreman he was unbeaten as a pro when he was younger (I think he said 23 or 24 fights) but gave up boxing for another career. He then pointed to a photo of himself on the wall with gloves on and fists up. I can't see any fights on boxrec for him. Anyone know more about his career? Maybe fought under another name?

I found an interview with Broadus and in that it says he was 19-1 as a welterweight before retiring.

Edit: Also saw the bio below on him, said he was 100-0 as an amateur and unbeaten in 22 as a pro and retired after his first loss but not sure how accurate this is!

"Charles "DOC" Broadus was born in 1919 in Raleigh, North Carolina. He was a grandson of a slave and was an adolescent moonshine runner. As a teenager he boxed in a summer camp with Joe Louis. Joe told him once:" Young man you must pursue the art of boxing, you will be a great one day". And so he did. After a 100-0 record as an amateur he went on to become a professional where he suffered his first loss at 22 wins. At once he retired and became a trainer where Doc went on to become arguably one of the greatest trainers who has ever lived."

The 100-0 stat and retired unbeaten after 22 is obvious bullsh*t. If the man himself said he was 19-1 as a Welterweight as a Pro, then there ya go

To be fair I found this bio before I found the interview with him and then edited the post. The bio says he retired after his first pro defeat, not that he retired as an unbeaten pro but in the film it says he retired unbeaten as a pro after 23 or 24 fights.

It wasn't a direct quote from him about his 19-1 record on the interview I found, it was added by the author although you'd assume that information came from Broadus.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2002/oct/1 ... ee-advice/

[Caractacus]

Forest whitakker is almost a foot taller then Doc Broadus was.
I don't know about you, I like some auethnicity in Docu-Dramas.
BTW
Back in the late 1960's ,Doc Broadus use to hang out and party all night with Sonny Liston when he was living in Las Vegas.
The difference was when the sun came up, Liston go home to sleep and Doc Broadus would have to go to work.

[Controversial]

Forest whitakker is almost a foot taller then Doc Broadus was.
I don't know about you, I like some auethnicity in Docu-Dramas.

And the actor who played Foreman looked nothing like him lol

[Bob]

Charles Broadus was fighting as an amateur as late as December 1939 in the Negro Golden Gloves in Greensboro...no record of any pro fights in the area though.

[Controversial]

Charles Broadus was fighting as an amateur as late as December 1939 in the Negro Golden Gloves in Greensboro...no record of any pro fights in the area though.

Thanks Bob.

[gilgamesh]

Forest whitakker is almost a foot taller then Doc Broadus was.
I don't know about you, I like some auethnicity in Docu-Dramas.
BTW
Back in the late 1960's ,Doc Broadus use to hang out and party all night with Sonny Liston when he was living in Las Vegas.
The difference was when the sun came up, Liston go home to sleep and Doc Broadus would have to go to work.

The guy that played Archie Moore is the guy that was the Kicker for the team on Waterboy

So he's a good bit smaller than Archie. Especially old man Archie who was training George.

It tells the story.

You can't always get an actor that looks like a dead ringer for somebody, but it gets the point across.

[Caractacus]

Archie Moore, 5 ft 11 " with 19 inch biceps.

[Controversial]

Charles Broadus was fighting as an amateur as late as December 1939 in the Negro Golden Gloves in Greensboro...no record of any pro fights in the area though.

Any results from his amateur career?

[Caractacus]

I wonder if the casting directer ever discussed with George Foreman which current actors would he think would best be for the roles in it ?
I think Mike Tyson would be good for Doc Broadus.

[Bob]

The only results I have for him all took place in the Golden Buckle negro tournament held at Memorial Stadium in Greensboro, North Carolina:

May 13, 1938 - Robert Withers - TKO
May 17, 1938 - Harold Cotton - L (semifinals in welterweight division)

May 25, 1939 - Wesley Austin - W default
May 26, 1939 - Joe Scott - TKO by (2nd round of middleweight division)

[Controversial]

The only results I have for him all took place in the Golden Buckle negro tournament held at Memorial Stadium in Greensboro, North Carolina:

May 13, 1938 - Robert Withers - TKO
May 17, 1938 - Harold Cotton - L (semifinals in welterweight division)

May 25, 1939 - Wesley Austin - W default
May 26, 1939 - Joe Scott - TKO by (2nd round of middleweight division)

Thank you Bob, so his undefeated amateur career was nonsense lol