Anyone want a bout in London?

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 24 Aug 2006, 06:12

If anyone wants to be hooked up with an unlicensed/ semi-pro bout in London then tell me and I'll hook you up.

I've got two friends promoting an event and are on the look out for boxers (or people to attend).

Their first event is about five weeks away and is a start off.

It is 3x2, no headgear or vest and pro scoring. You'll know of your opponent quite a while before fight time which is good.

Money is earnt through commission. You get 33% of every ticket you sell, which is £5 of £15.

I think there will also be a 'best fighter award' and maybe some sponsorship for the fighter to wear a t shirt to the ring. To my knowledge these factors are under consideration.

I think that is everything. PM me if you are interested.

I'm already in talks with quite a few ESB'ers to compete and attend.

You have to be at least 18.

It is all above board. Each boxer will be insured, go through a medical pre fight and a doctor will be present.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 25 Aug 2006, 07:53

Christ almighty... some poor bastard would have to need money bad to participate in this...

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 25 Aug 2006, 08:51

this is a poor standard

my mate is 'British' welter champ

he won the title in his first fight and it was one days notice, he stopped him in the 2nd

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 25 Aug 2006, 14:35

overhand_right wrote:Christ almighty... some poor bastard would have to need money bad to participate in this...

or an amateur who wants to be paid.

or an ex pro who can't be bothered with the rigours of pro boxing.

or a beginner who prefers the outlay of unlicensed boxing.

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 25 Aug 2006, 14:36

sweetscience wrote:this is a poor standard

my mate is 'British' welter champ

he won the title in his first fight and it was one days notice, he stopped him in the 2nd

What are you saying exactly?

ciscokid · Post by **ciscokid** » 25 Aug 2006, 15:16

Where's this being held?

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 25 Aug 2006, 16:26

ciscokid wrote:Where's this being held?

It is the birth of a new promotional outfit. First event is in Tolworth Recreational Centre. The next two events they are aiming for clubs like Liquid (Sutton) and Oceana (Kingston).

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 26 Aug 2006, 19:52

smokingbullet wrote:
ciscokid wrote:Where's this being held?
It is the birth of a new promotional outfit. First event is in Tolworth Recreational Centre. The next two events they are aiming for clubs like Liquid (Sutton) and Oceana (Kingston).

Not to be rude, mate. But I don't think you are going to get a lot of interest on this board.

I've been to Oceana in Kingston. I got thrown out for going to the toilet. And everywhere in Sutton is a dump, I live up the road from that. Who'd want to go those places to drink and dance let alone watch fake boxing?

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 27 Aug 2006, 06:10

Yeah, I can tell. I've just put threads up at boxrec, BS and ESB. It is for my mate. The event is gathering momentum but things like this is just extra. At ESB its picked up quite well. I thought at BS and boxrec there would be amateurs, fans etc raring to go. Seems I was wrong. I should try a site that specialises in british boxing. For the life of me I can't remember the web address of a main one.

Nightmare Roy · Post by **Nightmare Roy** » 27 Aug 2006, 23:10

smokingbullet wrote:Yeah, I can tell. I've just put threads up at boxrec, BS and ESB. It is for my mate. The event is gathering momentum but things like this is just extra. At ESB its picked up quite well. I thought at BS and boxrec there would be amateurs, fans etc raring to go. Seems I was wrong. I should try a site that specialises in british boxing. For the life of me I can't remember the web address of a main one.

Your best bet would be to fly post the event in the local area, or kcock up some flyers and hand them out in local boozers.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 28 Aug 2006, 05:03

So not only do you have to make the show by fighting you've goto be your own promoter and sell your own tickets. And you only get 33% of the tickets you sell. Great Deal

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 28 Aug 2006, 05:21

Maybe it doesnt sound that great a deal, and maybe if it was closer to where i live i would have ago.

After all think of all us Amateurs who get in the ring on a Saturday night for nothing, to put on a show for the local piss heads. 33% of the tickets i wouldnt mind getting instead of a cold burger and chips at the end of the night!

A while ago i was thinking of white collar boxing, but after seeing how much i would have to pay to enter the ring, (thats me paying) i think it sounds even better!

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 28 Aug 2006, 05:36

Nightmare Roy wrote:
smokingbullet wrote:Yeah, I can tell. I've just put threads up at boxrec, BS and ESB. It is for my mate. The event is gathering momentum but things like this is just extra. At ESB its picked up quite well. I thought at BS and boxrec there would be amateurs, fans etc raring to go. Seems I was wrong. I should try a site that specialises in british boxing. For the life of me I can't remember the web address of a main one.
Your best bet would be to fly post the event in the local area, or kcock up some flyers and hand them out in local boozers.

Yeah, that is already being done.

:good

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 28 Aug 2006, 05:42

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:So not only do you have to make the show by fighting you've goto be your own promoter and sell your own tickets. And you only get 33% of the tickets you sell. Great Deal

33% is bloody good. It is the promoters who have to cover loads of costs. Considering the size of this event they are breaking a good amount of bread with the fighters.

Plus most fighters won't promoter anything. You bring 20 friends and 5 family members and you go home with £125. Not the hardest thing to do especially with a good amount of time to do it.

Some people don't want money, they just want to fight for the experience. Help them in their amateur career or get ready for the pros.

You can also take 20 tickets, sell them and take all the money. That is another way.

At the end of the day you are independent, more or less self employed. You cover all your own stuff. You can negotiate who you box, its up to you how much you get paid and many other things.

I think its a good deal.

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 28 Aug 2006, 05:44

ABA Boxing wrote:Maybe it doesnt sound that great a deal, and maybe if it was closer to where i live i would have ago.

After all think of all us Amateurs who get in the ring on a Saturday night for nothing, to put on a show for the local piss heads. 33% of the tickets i wouldnt mind getting instead of a cold burger and chips at the end of the night!

A while ago i was thinking of white collar boxing, but after seeing how much i would have to pay to enter the ring, (thats me paying) i think it sounds even better!

If you are sharp you'll also get a good amount of time to prepare unlike many amateur shows where you are matched a week before, the day before or on fight night.

Some of these guys have had NINE weeks to prepare. Thats being treated like a pro. If someone joins now they still have 3.5 weeks which any amateur knows is good stuff.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 28 Aug 2006, 05:52

smokingbullet wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:So not only do you have to make the show by fighting you've goto be your own promoter and sell your own tickets. And you only get 33% of the tickets you sell. Great Deal
33% is bloody good. It is the promoters who have to cover loads of costs. Considering the size of this event they are breaking a good amount of bread with the fighters.

Plus most fighters won't promoter anything. You bring 20 friends and 5 family members and you go home with £125. Not the hardest thing to do especially with a good amount of time to do it.

Some people don't want money, they just want to fight for the experience. Help them in their amateur career or get ready for the pros.

You can also take 20 tickets, sell them and take all the money. That is another way.

At the end of the day you are independent, more or less self employed. You cover all your own stuff. You can negotiate who you box, its up to you how much you get paid and many other things.

I think its a good deal.

Personally, at 34, if by some miracle I ever got fit enough to fight again, I would do this.

I'm more or less to old for the amatuers, which is so strict you land one firm shot and a standing 8 is issued. Head-guards piss me off.

White collar is prohibitively expensive, and the head guards and 16oz gloves, make it comparable to sparring at your local gym, which you can do for subs of aboput £2.50. Why pay all that money to white collar firms?

At least with the unlicenced, you get a proper fight and a bit of money. There is medical supervision.

My questions would be: (To smoking bullett)

1) Is a paramedic Present?

2) Is the ring floor padding up to Board of control standard.

3) Presumably, gloves are 8 or 10 oz?

4) Presumably, vests are not worn?

5) Presumably, Headguards are not worn?

6) Does the promoter have insurance?

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 28 Aug 2006, 06:39

smokingbullet wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:So not only do you have to make the show by fighting you've goto be your own promoter and sell your own tickets. And you only get 33% of the tickets you sell. Great Deal
33% is bloody good. It is the promoters who have to cover loads of costs. Considering the size of this event they are breaking a good amount of bread with the fighters.

Plus most fighters won't promoter anything. You bring 20 friends and 5 family members and you go home with £125. Not the hardest thing to do especially with a good amount of time to do it.

Some people don't want money, they just want to fight for the experience. Help them in their amateur career or get ready for the pros.

You can also take 20 tickets, sell them and take all the money. That is another way.

At the end of the day you are independent, more or less self employed. You cover all your own stuff. You can negotiate who you box, its up to you how much you get paid and many other things.

I think its a good deal.

Distance is a problem with me, and as i could sell maybe 50+ tickets they to would not travel anymore than a couple of hours drive if you ever get to do a show down Plymouth or Bristol i would have ago & also the same points that KO Artist mentioned!

But i would prefer to wear a vest to cover my belly lol

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 29 Aug 2006, 09:05

KO Artist wrote:Personally, at 34, if by some miracle I ever got fit enough to fight again, I would do this.

I'm more or less to old for the amatuers, which is so strict you land one firm shot and a standing 8 is issued. Head-guards piss me off.

White collar is prohibitively expensive, and the head guards and 16oz gloves, make it comparable to sparring at your local gym, which you can do for subs of aboput £2.50. Why pay all that money to white collar firms?

At least with the unlicenced, you get a proper fight and a bit of money. There is medical supervision.

My questions would be: (To smoking bullett)

1) Is a paramedic Present?

2) Is the ring floor padding up to Board of control standard.

3) Presumably, gloves are 8 or 10 oz?

4) Presumably, vests are not worn?

5) Presumably, Headguards are not worn?

6) Does the promoter have insurance?

Some people hate the amateur system because it is like human fencing rather than boxing. Many boxers hate headguards and like you say White Collar costs money and 16oz is too much imo.

There is a doctor present. He will give you a pre fight medical and be on call for the whole evening.

The ring is rented so is up to standard.

10oz gloves.

No headguard or vests.

Yes the promoter insures his events.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 29 Aug 2006, 09:14

smokingbullet wrote:
KO Artist wrote:Personally, at 34, if by some miracle I ever got fit enough to fight again, I would do this.

I'm more or less to old for the amatuers, which is so strict you land one firm shot and a standing 8 is issued. Head-guards piss me off.

White collar is prohibitively expensive, and the head guards and 16oz gloves, make it comparable to sparring at your local gym, which you can do for subs of aboput £2.50. Why pay all that money to white collar firms?

At least with the unlicenced, you get a proper fight and a bit of money. There is medical supervision.

My questions would be: (To smoking bullett)

1) Is a paramedic Present?

2) Is the ring floor padding up to Board of control standard.

3) Presumably, gloves are 8 or 10 oz?

4) Presumably, vests are not worn?

5) Presumably, Headguards are not worn?

6) Does the promoter have insurance?
Some people hate the amateur system because it is like human fencing rather than boxing. Many boxers hate headguards and like you say White Collar costs money and 16oz is too much imo.

There is a doctor present. He will give you a pre fight medical and be on call for the whole evening.

The ring is rented so is up to standard.

10oz gloves.

No headguard or vests.

Yes the promoter insures his events.

Sounds good to me.

When is your next London show, and where can I buy a ticket?

Good luck with it.

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 29 Aug 2006, 09:27

I think they are negotiating one for Friday 22 September at Tolworth Rec and one at the end of October at a nightclub (The Work or Oceana in Kingston or Liquid in Sutton).

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 31 Aug 2006, 02:34

ABA Boxing wrote:Maybe it doesnt sound that great a deal, and maybe if it was closer to where i live i would have ago.

After all think of all us Amateurs who get in the ring on a Saturday night for nothing, to put on a show for the local piss heads. 33% of the tickets i wouldnt mind getting instead of a cold burger and chips at the end of the night!

A while ago i was thinking of white collar boxing, but after seeing how much i would have to pay to enter the ring, (thats me paying) i think it sounds even better!

I have to agree, I had a few amature fights and all i got out of them was sore ribs and head, At least these blokes can make a buck and only go 3 by 2 mins. Why don't they have it over here id get in decent shape for a 6 min fight.

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 31 Aug 2006, 06:35

Momentum is slowly gathering. The owner of semi pro boxing in America actually made a post on another forum.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 31 Aug 2006, 07:38

Another question who would we have has corner men?

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 31 Aug 2006, 11:10

ABA Boxing wrote:Another question who would we have has corner men?

You could bring your own cornerman who you trust or you could be hooked up with one. A network is forming. There are one or two coaches involved (me being one of them) at the moment. As time goes by more connections will be developed.

So basically bring your own or be hooked up with one. Being hooked up costs some money though. I charge about 20quid to work the corner. I do this simply because if I wasn't working the corner I'd be spending time with my proper fighters which I would prefer doing.

I prefer to train talent, guys who may even be interested in turning pro one day.

smokingbullet · Post by **smokingbullet** » 02 Sep 2006, 14:08

I take it that is everyone. Thanks for the interest. :good