Errol Spence Jr. vs. Terence Crawford | Showtime PPV - July 29, 2023

[Perseus]

Best version of the truth as I know it: They let this fight marinate for too long!! There is no possibility that I will buy OR stream this fight regardless of when it happens.

[DrDuke]

Another case to be believed in only with the opening bell.

[joshj909]

Best version of the truth as I know it: They let this fight marinate for too long!! There is no possibility that I will buy OR stream this fight regardless of when it happens.

When they let fights "marinate" too long it goes mouldy.

[KiwiRider]

Best version of the truth as I know it: They let this fight marinate for too long!! There is no possibility that I will buy OR stream this fight regardless of when it happens.

Same. I've actually lost a bit of interest in it as they both get older.
I think Crawford, while still an excellent boxer, has peaked.
And Spence, if he admits it or not, suffered lasting physical damage in that car accident

[DrDuke]

Best version of the truth as I know it: They let this fight marinate for too long!! There is no possibility that I will buy OR stream this fight regardless of when it happens.

Same. I've actually lost a bit of interest in it as they both get older.
I think Crawford, while still an excellent boxer, has peaked.
And Spence, if he admits it or not, suffered lasting physical damage in that car accident

Well, Spence' performances after the accident weren't worse.

[Ruthless-RKO]

“There’s still a ways to go, but we are making progress,” Espinoza told Boxing Scene following the final Davis-Garcia press conference at MGM Grand’s KA Theatre. “It’s been slow progress, but we’re closer now than we were in the fall. I’m a firm believer that it’s not done until it’s done. You know, we’ve been close before, so I’m gonna be conservative. But overall, I’m optimistic that it gets done.”

[Evander]

So here we are, on the eve of hearing the date for Spence v Crawford.
I don't want to hear no stories Ruthless.
Tomorrow night I'm expecting the date for the fight.

[gregregegg]

These lads are aging… At this point I think I’d rather boots vs Ortiz.

[Evander]

No date for Spence v Crawford.

[lenny.boxing]

Pacquiao Mayweather type of situation.
Im pretty sure this fight wont ever happen, crawford is 35 and fights once a year, mostly in the last to months of the year. A good portion of boxers retire at that age, so for him it would have been the best to get this fight as early as possible. He could be an all time great if he gets this win.
But there is so much against this fight happening both men become older and older and the fight untimately will be one of those "what if fights".
Its also not very good look on your career when you could have been undisputed but the fight didnt happen.
Id favor Crawford by the way, his stance switches, long range, educated fight IQ and a solid chin, he only got cracked by Kavaliauskas who hits very hard.
Spence is a very good southpaw, bigger and has much better bodyshots, i belive crawford hits harder and is faster.
As long as Crawford is in his prime i see him beating Spence but once Crawford gets to old younger contenders will present a problem.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Sweet Dick Willie]

[KiwiRider]

So here we are, on the eve of hearing the date for Spence v Crawford.
I don't want to hear no stories Ruthless.
Tomorrow night I'm expecting the date for the fight.

Don't shoot the messenger Evander, just rough him up a bit

[oogiebe]

Should've happened two years ago. I've lost interest in this fight.

[Evander]

So here we are, on the eve of hearing the date for Spence v Crawford.
I don't want to hear no stories Ruthless.
Tomorrow night I'm expecting the date for the fight.

Don't shoot the messenger Evander, just rough him up a bit

I'm sure he wants to see it as well.

[Syntax Error]

Should've happened two years ago. I've lost interest in this fight.

Me too.

I used to be so pumped for this fight.

It was my most anticipated superfight in the sport today, now I couldn't give a stuff.

Don't get me wrong, I shall still watch it and I still favour Crawford ever so slightly, but these two arsing about for years when it was the most natural fight on the planet has really turned me off them.

[Sweet Dick Willie]

I don't actally think it's too late, I just don't think it will ever happen

[oogiebe]

Should've happened two years ago. I've lost interest in this fight.

Me too.

I used to be so pumped for this fight.

It was my most anticipated superfight in the sport today, now I couldn't give a stuff.

Don't get me wrong, I shall still watch it and I still favour Crawford ever so slightly, but these two arsing about for years when it was the most natural fight on the planet has really turned me off them.

They'd have to have a re-buildup for me to get interested again. Neither have had any significant fights.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[tiny_acres]

Curious as to where the 25 million is coming from

[The Asleep Lamps]

I wish they would show this fight at the movie theaters. I think the last fight they showed there was some Jake Paul fight.

[Evander]

Doesn't look like they will fight in the summer.
Hopefully they can meet later on in the year and get the "Black Hollywood" date as the fight of the year in November or December.
They'll need that amount of time to build the fight up properly considering how poorly they've done up until now.

[Ruthless-RKO]

DEVELOPING: ERROL SPENCE JR.-TERENCE CRAWFORD MEGAFIGHT LOOKS LIKE JULY 29

It continues. It’s ongoing. After additional reporting on the potential welterweight superfight between IBF, WBA and WBC titlist Errol Spence Jr. and WBO counterpart Terence Crawford, RingTV.com has learned that the latest target date now could be Saturday, July 29, with a possible alternative date of Saturday, August 5, in Las Vegas. It will be a Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) event shown on Showtime PPV and will also be available on PPV.com.

The fight, which will be for The Ring’s vacant 147-pound championship, is not yet signed and is still being negotiated. But things seem to be coming to fruition. What has been known is that both southpaws want the fight—and many associated with the fight stated that they would like the fight to take place this summer, and certainly within the 2023 calendar year. Complications seem to be coming from one side of the table, according to numerous sources. All parties agree that the fight looks like it is going to happen.

Hopefully, an official fight announcement will be made soon.

Over 10 sources—unrelated to one another—aware of the discussions have stated almost verbatim that one side continues to over value itself in the boxing and overall sports marketplace as the reason for the holdup.

Otherwise, the fight would have been signed and a date and venue would have been set by now. The summer remains the ideal time to garner the greatest amount of attention for the fight, before the NFL season begins in the fall, which is the premier sports league in the U.S. and holds a King Kong dominance over American sports media. For Spence-Crawford to get the optimum level of success, the promotion would need two months to build the fight without much competition for the sports entertainment dollar than risk the loss of crossover appeal during an NFL season.

The July 29 would provide ample time to do that. The July 22 date appeared to be the target date, which has shifted like gas prices. Since the story was originally posted on Friday, April 28, numerous sources revealed that July 22 was always subject to change, since the date for this fight has already changed several times.

The other dates that were spoken about were Saturday, July 29, and Saturday, August 5, within that time frame. As stated in the original story, it is boxing, nothing is ever certain until names are on contracts—and sometimes, not even then. Nothing is ever set. The Tank Davis-Ryan Garcia fight was originally slated for Saturday April 15, and pushed back a week to accommodate the Davis’ camp and allow more time for the promotion.

As first reported by Keith Idec of Boxing Scene. the Davis-Garcia Showtime Pay-Per-View main event generated approximately 1.2 million buys in the U.S. Idec reported that, “Most insiders interviewed by BS.com before Davis’ seventh-round knockout of Garcia projected that it would produce anywhere between 450,000 and 750,000 buys, which still would’ve been a success based on the state of the boxing pay-per-view business in the U.S.”

A million buys is considered today’s gold standard. Davis-Garcia took place before a sellout crowd of 20,842 at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. The gate revenue was $22.8 million. The 1.2 million Davis-Garcia buys translated to roughly $102 million, and a total revenue of $136.8 million when considering merchandise sells, international sales and commercial revenue—and that’s a rough estimate on the low side. The total promotion generated about $140 million.

That is hugely encouraging news for the sport of boxing, though it might not apply to Spence-Crawford. No one is disputing Spence and Crawford are not superstars. But right now, they have fallen into the niche of “boxing superstars,” a notch below Davis and Garcia’s upward crossover trajectory. While a big fight to fight fans, Spence-Crawford may not hold the same cache to younger sports fans, since both are over 30, with Crawford on the brink of turning 36 in September, and Spence just turned 33 in March. Their Q-rating brand and social media star appeal to the mainstream does not equal the scale of Davis-Garcia.

o, time is of pressing importance to get Spence-Crawford made, so the gears begin generating media attention to it. Each time a new report comes out about Spence-Crawford taking place, the uninformed outside of boxing media are understandably pessimistic, as they should be, since this fight has been rumored to take place for years.

It’s a fight that the boxing public has yearned for and multiple sources confirmed is nearing fruition.

One side appears set. The other side isn’t yet.

The Ring’s No. 1 rated welterweight, Spence (28-0, 22 knockouts) represented the U.S. at the London 2012 Olympics. The 33-year-old southpaw has made six defenses and added WBA and WBC titles. He holds championship wins over Mikey Garcia (UD 12), Shawn Porter (SD 12), Danny Garcia (UD 12) and Yordenis Ugas (TKO 10).

Crawford (39-0, 30 KOs) is The Ring’s No. 2 rated welterweight. The ultra-talented switch-hitter from Nebraska has won titles at 135, 140 and 147.

Since moving to welterweight, the 35-year-old Crawford has won the WBO title and made six successful defenses, which includes victories over Amir Khan (TKO 6), Brook (TKO 4), Shawn Porter (TKO 10), and most recently, David Avanesyan (KO 6).

[Sweet Dick Willie]

[oogiebe]

exactly