Classic fights I've watched recently
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handsofstone
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Rocky Juarez vs Zahir Raheem
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handsofstone
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Humberto Soto vs Rocky Juarez
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handsofstone
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Robinson Castellanos vs Rocky Juarez
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AngryGoon38
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I finally decided to watch the Mayweather jr-Pacqiou bout, yesterday, on my 32" smart-tv.
I had watched LiL HL snippets of it here and there, over the years since they're bout that they had in,... 2015..?
I just couldn't get over Floyd's blatant "Chickeny Crab" style of scardey cat-defensive cheatery.
It was Funny though, seeing Manny smiling, and almost laughing after each round ended.
He was probably basically thinking, "Gee, what a Chicken !"...And...
"Sheesh, This guy darts all around like a chicken on amphetamines, and keeps on constantly grabbing, like he learned it from a Crab defending itself from getting gobbled up."
With that said, had I been reffing, I would've deducted a point, multiple times.
Any other fighter would've had multiple point deductions.
And anyone who will say, "Oh, well.., Floyd's a defensive genius, blah blah blah..."
Yeah Sure, and if You Yourself were a Pro Boxer versus him and he was pulling all that shananigary on you, then You'd be Totally Changing You're Tune on all of that !!
It'd suddenly go from, "He's a defensive Genius, blah blah blah" to, "This Mf'er fights like a Chicken Sh$t Cheatin Coward". "Why doesn't he man up and fight like a Real Man instead of like a Chicken-Crab wonky outer space hybrid Creature...?!"
And also, "Why does the Ref pay it all No Mind whatsoever..?!" It's like, He's specially excempt from normal ref contempt of boxers who excessively run and grab. Especially the excessive grabbing and clinching.
Other boxers would have multiple point deductions doing all that shananigary, but no, not Floyd !!
He's Allowed !! Because boxing like a Chicken Crab is defensive Genius if it's Floyd doing it..!!!
I had watched LiL HL snippets of it here and there, over the years since they're bout that they had in,... 2015..?
I just couldn't get over Floyd's blatant "Chickeny Crab" style of scardey cat-defensive cheatery.
It was Funny though, seeing Manny smiling, and almost laughing after each round ended.
He was probably basically thinking, "Gee, what a Chicken !"...And...
"Sheesh, This guy darts all around like a chicken on amphetamines, and keeps on constantly grabbing, like he learned it from a Crab defending itself from getting gobbled up."
With that said, had I been reffing, I would've deducted a point, multiple times.
Any other fighter would've had multiple point deductions.
And anyone who will say, "Oh, well.., Floyd's a defensive genius, blah blah blah..."
Yeah Sure, and if You Yourself were a Pro Boxer versus him and he was pulling all that shananigary on you, then You'd be Totally Changing You're Tune on all of that !!
It'd suddenly go from, "He's a defensive Genius, blah blah blah" to, "This Mf'er fights like a Chicken Sh$t Cheatin Coward". "Why doesn't he man up and fight like a Real Man instead of like a Chicken-Crab wonky outer space hybrid Creature...?!"
And also, "Why does the Ref pay it all No Mind whatsoever..?!" It's like, He's specially excempt from normal ref contempt of boxers who excessively run and grab. Especially the excessive grabbing and clinching.
Other boxers would have multiple point deductions doing all that shananigary, but no, not Floyd !!
He's Allowed !! Because boxing like a Chicken Crab is defensive Genius if it's Floyd doing it..!!!
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I agree...referee can win or lose a fight and that ain't right!!
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AngryGoon38
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Samuel Serrano-Julio Valdez
From February of 1979.
Amazing Junior Lightweight Championship Bout.
They're records entering into this bout...
Serrano 39-4-1.
Valdez 16-6-2.
It went the 15 round distance. They kept fighting after the final bell. Valdez was incredibly Angry at Serrano.
Serrano's size, look, and boxing style was So incredibly similar to "Edwin Viruet".
I highly recommend watching this bout.![[icon_e_geek.gif] :geek:](./images/smilies/icon_e_geek.gif)
From February of 1979.
Amazing Junior Lightweight Championship Bout.
They're records entering into this bout...
Serrano 39-4-1.
Valdez 16-6-2.
It went the 15 round distance. They kept fighting after the final bell. Valdez was incredibly Angry at Serrano.
Serrano's size, look, and boxing style was So incredibly similar to "Edwin Viruet".
I highly recommend watching this bout.
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handsofstone
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Bobby Czyz vs Robbie Sims
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handsofstone
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Robbie Sims vs Iran Barkley
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scartissue
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That was a terrific fight.
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handsofstone
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It was a cracker, a rarity this far into the thread
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Dokes vs Ocasio l. A legit draw. Dokes' boxing later help offset Ocasio's success earlier in the fight.
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handsofstone
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Doug DeWitt vs Robbie Sims 2
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handsofstone
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Robbie Sims vs John Collins
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AngryGoon38
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Roy Jones Jr vs Jorge Castro
This bout took place on June 30th, 1992.
They fought a 10 rounder, at MW(160).
Jones Jr was ranked number 4. Castro was ranked at number 6.
Jones Jr was 17-0 with 17 ko's.
Castro was 71-3-2 with 51 ko's. He had previously fought Terry Norris @ 154, losing a 12 round decision to Norris.
This bout is Very interesting. I had previously only watched highlight videos of it.
Jones Jr landed a left hook in the 2nd round which Broke Castro's nose.
Castro also kept shaking out his right arm throughout the bout. He was obviously having rotator cuff issues.
He Did continue to throw these random over-hand right looping haymakers throughout the bout.
Some Did connect. And After one particular round, Jones Jr acknowledged to Castro, that he Did land a Good punch on him. This was a display of Good Sportsmanship on Jones Jr's behalf.
Jones Jr won a wide unanimous decision, but Castro Did put on a Valiant effort.
Castro would win by a dramatic 9th round knockout over a 32-0 boxer, by the name of John David Jackson, 2 years later, in 1994. The equalizer punch ironically being a wild winging left hook, even though Castro's Primary Homerun punch was obviously that Over-hand Right.
This bout took place on June 30th, 1992.
They fought a 10 rounder, at MW(160).
Jones Jr was ranked number 4. Castro was ranked at number 6.
Jones Jr was 17-0 with 17 ko's.
Castro was 71-3-2 with 51 ko's. He had previously fought Terry Norris @ 154, losing a 12 round decision to Norris.
This bout is Very interesting. I had previously only watched highlight videos of it.
Jones Jr landed a left hook in the 2nd round which Broke Castro's nose.
Castro also kept shaking out his right arm throughout the bout. He was obviously having rotator cuff issues.
He Did continue to throw these random over-hand right looping haymakers throughout the bout.
Some Did connect. And After one particular round, Jones Jr acknowledged to Castro, that he Did land a Good punch on him. This was a display of Good Sportsmanship on Jones Jr's behalf.
Jones Jr won a wide unanimous decision, but Castro Did put on a Valiant effort.
Castro would win by a dramatic 9th round knockout over a 32-0 boxer, by the name of John David Jackson, 2 years later, in 1994. The equalizer punch ironically being a wild winging left hook, even though Castro's Primary Homerun punch was obviously that Over-hand Right.
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handsofstone
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Robbie Sims vs Roberto Duran
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handsofstone
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Sumbu Kalambay vs Robbie Sims
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handsofstone
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Dariusz Michalczewski vs Nicky Piper
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handsofstone
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Frank Bruno vs Pierre Coetzer
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Bit of an ugly one that........Frank was more than a bit naughty at times but in a sense he was also beginning to learn the art of protecting-pacing himself a bit more and also having a Plan B when the big bombs did not finish things early.Frank Bruno vs Pierre Coetzer
There would be a definite improvement against Lewis later on - a fight many people thought would be a total humiliation and were dead against - and ultimately it would allow him to deal with McCall as well.
Coetzer was a brave old dude - bloody rugged as well - but he was kind of a good way for the Bruno team to test out a new style of fighting at the top level.
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George Foreman vs Pierre Coetzer
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Gerrie Coetzee vs Michael Dokes
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Herbie Hide vs Michael Bentt
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handsofstone
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Alexis Arguello vs Jose Luis Ramirez
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AngryGoon38
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Sugar Ray Leonard - Dicky Eklund
July 18, 1978
10 rounder
This one particular bout is a very underrated early on bout in the career of SRL.
Yes, it was portrayed in that one movie about Mickey Ward and emphasized his cousin Dicky a fair amount as well.
It's still an underrated classic imo though. I had watched it in the past, but enough time in between had elapsed before
I had a sudden hankering/craving to watch it again. Needless to say, I wasn't disappointed in the least amount.
My analysis of this bout has become even more enhanced with myself watching other bouts with other similar fighting styles that Eklund had. Classic Bouts with Samuel Serrano and Edwin Viruet for prime examples.
Amazing how all three(Eklund, Serrano, Viruet) had Very Similar defensive Boxing attributes.
They're defensive boxing styles were Enjoyable to watch. Not frustrating and annoying like that of Clinch-Happy types such as Money Mayweather and Devon Haney as prime examples. All three of those defensive stylists from the 1970's-1980's exhibited Very Graceful footwork and pure elusiveness. They didn't employ all this excessive grabbery/clinchery, which just gets Very annoying, frustrating, and boring to watch as well. Basically, they worked Hard in there. Genuinely Hard working defensive type boxers. Unlike the Grabbing Clinching Dirty-Pool defensive stylists of the modern times. It's funny though that this kind of thing proverbiates the old saying of History repeats itself, being that "Jack Johnson" was apparently the Godfather of "Clinch-Happy Defensive Boxing", just as much as "Gene Tunney" is The Godfather of "Elusive defensive Boxing" stylists.
Now, back to the main topic being this specific particular Classic Bout, yes, Eklund was in essence a mere Classic Proverbial example of a Great Amateur Boxer who just simply didn't quite have it to become a Truly successful Pro Boxer. His lifetime pro boxing record wound up reading 19-10 with 4 ko's. Right there tells you that his biggest flaw was the obvious lack of FirePower. Also in his pro boxing record, it reads that he never lost by Ko or Tko. Entering into the bout versus a 12-0 SRL, Eklund had a pro record of 11-3 with 2 Ko's. Eklund had just lost a 10 round decision to an opponent who had gone the 10 round distance with SRL. In the in-ring interview with both boxers, following they're rather riveting bout, SRL acknowledged respect towards Eklund, calling him a Very Good Boxer, along with pointing out that he wasn't surprised that Eklund was able to get up after each of those 3 knockdowns.
It's Very interesting to watch that 9th round, where Leonard was Really having his Way for a certain amount of time in that round, and thus began motioning to the ref to stop the bout, much like Ali did in his 2nd bout versus Quarry.
This particular ref apparently saw something that told him that Eklund was Still worthy to remain in the ring, still trying, still battling on, and still mesmerizing the audience. Turns out that the ref's decision to let the bout continue Was in fact The Right Correct decision. As Eklund actually mounted a bit of an offensive barrage of his own, towards the end of that 9th round.
Sadly and Unfortunately, Today, these days, obviously that bout Would've been stopped, at least by 99% of these modern day Paranoia ridden refs.
July 18, 1978
10 rounder
This one particular bout is a very underrated early on bout in the career of SRL.
Yes, it was portrayed in that one movie about Mickey Ward and emphasized his cousin Dicky a fair amount as well.
It's still an underrated classic imo though. I had watched it in the past, but enough time in between had elapsed before
I had a sudden hankering/craving to watch it again. Needless to say, I wasn't disappointed in the least amount.
My analysis of this bout has become even more enhanced with myself watching other bouts with other similar fighting styles that Eklund had. Classic Bouts with Samuel Serrano and Edwin Viruet for prime examples.
Amazing how all three(Eklund, Serrano, Viruet) had Very Similar defensive Boxing attributes.
They're defensive boxing styles were Enjoyable to watch. Not frustrating and annoying like that of Clinch-Happy types such as Money Mayweather and Devon Haney as prime examples. All three of those defensive stylists from the 1970's-1980's exhibited Very Graceful footwork and pure elusiveness. They didn't employ all this excessive grabbery/clinchery, which just gets Very annoying, frustrating, and boring to watch as well. Basically, they worked Hard in there. Genuinely Hard working defensive type boxers. Unlike the Grabbing Clinching Dirty-Pool defensive stylists of the modern times. It's funny though that this kind of thing proverbiates the old saying of History repeats itself, being that "Jack Johnson" was apparently the Godfather of "Clinch-Happy Defensive Boxing", just as much as "Gene Tunney" is The Godfather of "Elusive defensive Boxing" stylists.
Now, back to the main topic being this specific particular Classic Bout, yes, Eklund was in essence a mere Classic Proverbial example of a Great Amateur Boxer who just simply didn't quite have it to become a Truly successful Pro Boxer. His lifetime pro boxing record wound up reading 19-10 with 4 ko's. Right there tells you that his biggest flaw was the obvious lack of FirePower. Also in his pro boxing record, it reads that he never lost by Ko or Tko. Entering into the bout versus a 12-0 SRL, Eklund had a pro record of 11-3 with 2 Ko's. Eklund had just lost a 10 round decision to an opponent who had gone the 10 round distance with SRL. In the in-ring interview with both boxers, following they're rather riveting bout, SRL acknowledged respect towards Eklund, calling him a Very Good Boxer, along with pointing out that he wasn't surprised that Eklund was able to get up after each of those 3 knockdowns.
It's Very interesting to watch that 9th round, where Leonard was Really having his Way for a certain amount of time in that round, and thus began motioning to the ref to stop the bout, much like Ali did in his 2nd bout versus Quarry.
This particular ref apparently saw something that told him that Eklund was Still worthy to remain in the ring, still trying, still battling on, and still mesmerizing the audience. Turns out that the ref's decision to let the bout continue Was in fact The Right Correct decision. As Eklund actually mounted a bit of an offensive barrage of his own, towards the end of that 9th round.
Sadly and Unfortunately, Today, these days, obviously that bout Would've been stopped, at least by 99% of these modern day Paranoia ridden refs.