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Post by Spud »

Hello Forum,

How are you all doing?

A question for you all …

Have any if you won a lot of money at the bookies due to boxing?

The first fight I can remember is Corrie Sanders v Wladimir Klitschko … I remember speaking to Clive Bernath who was the editor of secondsout.com. Clive phoned me on the day of the fight & said he spoken to Rodney Berman who was totally convinced that Sanders would knock out Klitschko.

Clive phoned me after the fight and said he won a few hundred quid … typical me I didn’t back Sanders.

The next fight that I remember was George Groves v James Degale. I remember speaking to a boxing personality who sent me a copy of his betting slip because I didn’t believe him when he said he won £52k on Groves winning on a SD. Yet again typical me I won nothing.

The next fight I failed to put money on was Jazza Dickens v Tommy Ward. I remember reading Tommys facebook page people posting pictures of their winning betting slips having bet on Tommy winning at 4/1.
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Had £25 on at 25-1 on a draw for degale/badou jack. Dont think I'll beat that one. Often can pick up a bit of value 'in play' but they seem to suspend markets a lot quicker now. Will back Joyce in the rematch with Zhang for late stoppage/pts if can get decent odds
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Won 2k on price Thompson 2. Had Thompson by KO at 4-1, stuck £400 on. Was so bitter as was going to put the last of my redundancy on it (£6k) but foolishly mentioned it to my girlfriend at the time (It's not enough I have to worry about your drinking, now I'm going to have to worry about your gambling too?!) and that was the end of that 😄

We broke up shortly after...
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Audley to win prizefighter and Flintoff to win his debut were big ones. A few Winky Wright ones as well.
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Post by Coco »

Odds to win fights aren't long if he has any chance of winning.
At best bet heavy to double up.
Good odds on picking rounds but it's a lottery.
I remember sticking 20 quid on an accumulator for a Warren show years back, bet on the 4 title fights where the home fighter was pretty much guaranteed.
Turned 20 quid into 30 quid.
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mickey1975 wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 13:20 Audley to win prizefighter and Flintoff to win his debut were big ones. A few Winky Wright ones as well.
You were directly responsible for me winning 150 quid on Campbell Hatton by points in his debut, so a big thanks for that
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dookus wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 15:14
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 13:20 Audley to win prizefighter and Flintoff to win his debut were big ones. A few Winky Wright ones as well.
You were directly responsible for me winning 150 quid on Campbell Hatton by points in his debut, so a big thanks for that
I think I won on Conor Benn pts a few times.
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Post by jameswilson »

I think betting on Joyce to beat Dubois by stoppage and on Khan to win by KO in 1 vs Lo Greco are my two biggest boxing wins. Both won me about 3 grand (Joyce was 8/1 I think, Khan was 30/1.)

I had Price to lose by KO to Teper and to the German/Romanian guy.

Some of the heart breakers include having a few hundred quid on Persoon to beat Taylor in their first fight. Kiko to beat Zelfa Barrett. Gangling to beat Bridges.


It might not have been my first but I remember betting on Arturo Gatti to lose to Carlos Baldomir. Gatti at the time clearly always made weight horrendously and I just knew Baldomir would wear him down.
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I won I think £200 on the Eubank/Benn draw, and similarly on Danny Williams to beat Mike Tyson. Lost about £200 on Bruno beating McCall!
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Spud wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 12:28 Hello Forum,

How are you all doing?

A question for you all …

Have any if you won a lot of money at the bookies due to boxing?

The first fight I can remember is Corrie Sanders v Wladimir Klitschko … I remember speaking to Clive Bernath who was the editor of secondsout.com. Clive phoned me on the day of the fight & said he spoken to Rodney Berman who was totally convinced that Sanders would knock out Klitschko.

Clive phoned me after the fight and said he won a few hundred quid … typical me I didn’t back Sanders.

The next fight that I remember was George Groves v James Degale. I remember speaking to a boxing personality who sent me a copy of his betting slip because I didn’t believe him when he said he won £52k on Groves winning on a SD. Yet again typical me I won nothing.

The next fight I failed to put money on was Jazza Dickens v Tommy Ward. I remember reading Tommys facebook page people posting pictures of their winning betting slips having bet on Tommy winning at 4/1.
Your memory is good,Spud. I remember that was one of my better nights at the bookies. I soon lost it again 😂😂
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Shields was 33/1 to win gold in 2012 (when Savannah was fav in London). Had it right off.
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TheGoods wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 16:58 Shields was 33/1 to win gold in 2012 (when Savannah was fav in London). Had it right off.
Yeah boxing is the sport where I do feel the bookies can click it right up every now and then.

I had it off with Caterall v Stalker in the sense I put my money on and pretty much from first bell to last was just sat there like ‘this is coming in no problem.’
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TheGoods wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 16:58 Shields was 33/1 to win gold in 2012 (when Savannah was fav in London). Had it right off.
I got 22-1 thanks to you on here. I also had Luke Campbell and Loma and then chose Andrew Selby over AJ for an accumulator. It would have paid a fortune.
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I got a good one a few weeks back
5k acca of £50 quid
How do you post pictures on here ?
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Joyce sparking Parker paid for my holiday :lol:
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Post by coneye »

I'm not a gambler so very very rarely bet , bit hypocrytical of me considering its 12.30 pm saturday afternoon here and i'm going to the pub in about 10 minuites to spend my sat afternoon stood drinking with a table full of heavy big gamblers who will bet on probably every single race till we brak up at around 6 pm , its been a ritual for 35 plus years unless i'm away , .
But regards me gambling and fights , Tyson v Douglas it was in the pub early they showed it , I went in there like all he others expecting Mike to do a job on him , i'd never seen Buster Douglas before , after about a rnd , i said to a few mates Dougla is gonna win this , , Whaaat they said ,,, well one said 20 on it , another 10 on it and so thorth , within minuites seemed half the pub wanted to take me up on it , when douglas got dropped i said if he gets up he stops Tyson , was a quick i'll bet ya 10 i'll bet 20 bla bla , i walked out very happy and a couple grand richer ,, hardest part was keeping up with who's bbets i had took , i'm sure a few got away without paying .

Usually i pick and am wrong , thats why i don't gam;le :lol:
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TheGoods wrote: 16 Jun 2023, 16:58 Shields was 33/1 to win gold in 2012 (when Savannah was fav in London). Had it right off.
I remember this, and I feel it was tipped somewhere, possibly by yourself.

I have a bet most weekends, but a couple of fights stick in the memory where I felt the bookies got it wrong and I cashed in.

Most recently Joyce over Dubois, and I made an extra few hundred betting on rds 9-12. And prior to that I had Froch over Bute.

On both occasions I think the bookies were dazzled by the unbeaten, but unimpressive if you dig a little deeper, records
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I hardly ever bet, don’t really enjoy it. Seem to remember sticking a few quid on Froch - Groves 2 and getting the ko round correct, totally luck rather than judgement. Hadn’t even remembered doing it until I got an email the next day confirming my winnings.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 17 Jun 2023, 06:42 I hardly ever bet, don’t really enjoy it. Seem to remember sticking a few quid on Froch - Groves 2 and getting the ko round correct, totally luck rather than judgement. Hadn’t even remembered doing it until I got an email the next day confirming my winnings.
Isn't gambling mostly down to luck? I mean you can put some skill and thought into it, but ultimately, it's luck isn't it.

Are you feeling lucky?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jun 2023, 06:50
Boxerbeetle wrote: 17 Jun 2023, 06:42 I hardly ever bet, don’t really enjoy it. Seem to remember sticking a few quid on Froch - Groves 2 and getting the ko round correct, totally luck rather than judgement. Hadn’t even remembered doing it until I got an email the next day confirming my winnings.
Isn't gambling mostly down to luck? I mean you can put some skill and thought into it, but ultimately, it's luck isn't it.

Are you feeling lucky?
Depends on the bet really. It’s all luck to some extent as nothing is ever guaranteed in sport, but there’s plenty of outcomes you can confidently predict. Trouble is, so can the bookies! So you won’t win much by betting on, say, Joshua ko’ing Charles Martin or Man City winning the Premier League. But Ruiz ko’ing AJ or Leicester winning the PL would have paid out pretty well.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jun 2023, 06:50
Boxerbeetle wrote: 17 Jun 2023, 06:42 I hardly ever bet, don’t really enjoy it. Seem to remember sticking a few quid on Froch - Groves 2 and getting the ko round correct, totally luck rather than judgement. Hadn’t even remembered doing it until I got an email the next day confirming my winnings.
Isn't gambling mostly down to luck? I mean you can put some skill and thought into it, but ultimately, it's luck isn't it.

Are you feeling lucky?
Nah man - not in the same way as say, roulette, where you can have zero confidence of predicting the outcome.

What you have to overcome is the ‘over round’ or edge bookies give themselves.

Even if you outperform them in terms of predictions, this locks them in a margin.
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I don't gamble any more, but now and again you can see the bookies are way off, Eubank Junior favourite over Smith was crazy. Wasn't Ruiz 30/1 over AJ too? Think about that, the bookies are saying if they fought 30 times AJ would win them all! That's nuts, with a fighter as good as Ruiz.

Years back I had Prescott to do Khan in the round, might have been 12s or 14s but considering he had been wobbled by much lighter punchers and Prescott was known as an absolute banger I remember it seemed great value, some of the daftest match making I've seen that. Dubois being favourite over Joyce is another that springs to mind, just why? Look at their amateur credentials.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 17 Jun 2023, 10:17 I don't gamble any more, but now and again you can see the bookies are way off, Eubank Junior favourite over Smith was crazy. Wasn't Ruiz 30/1 over AJ too? Think about that, the bookies are saying if they fought 30 times AJ would win them all! That's nuts, with a fighter as good as Ruiz.

Years back I had Prescott to do Khan in the round, might have been 12s or 14s but considering he had been wobbled by much lighter punchers and Prescott was known as an absolute banger I remember it seemed great value, some of the daftest match making I've seen that. Dubois being favourite over Joyce is another that springs to mind, just why? Look at their amateur credentials.
I agree Ruiz is not a bad fighter at all.. But you're only as good as your last fight, and Ruiz wasn't very active after the Parker fight.. However, being HW boxing, those odds were terrible.
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The betting market (led by Betfair) in running - seems to take the TV pundits scorecard as near definative! Often there's value if the pundits scorecard is way off and can pay to try to score the fights yourself. Profits in running can be lucrative.

I bet less and less now as I watch less and less, and you need to be following it heavily IMO to make betting pay.
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Post by Spud »

Again there are some great replies on this.

Are are there anymore fights where the bookies it wrong?

Also what do people prefer when betting on the boxing?

Correct round!?
Method of victory ?
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