cmdenny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 10:30
The betting market (led by Betfair) in running - seems to take the TV pundits scorecard as near definative! Often there's value if the pundits scorecard is way off and can pay to try to score the fights yourself. Profits in running can be lucrative.
I bet less and less now as I watch less and less, and you need to be following it heavily IMO to make betting pay.
Having some money on betting in
Running can be good
Best I had was Frank Bruno winning in the 1st round against Emmen and then getting something like 8/1 against Marin in 1995.
A lot of near misses and bad luck stories since
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 10:17
I don't gamble any more, but now and again you can see the bookies are way off, Eubank Junior favourite over Smith was crazy. Wasn't Ruiz 30/1 over AJ too? Think about that, the bookies are saying if they fought 30 times AJ would win them all! That's nuts, with a fighter as good as Ruiz
In the UK he was more like between 12 and 14/1.
Don’t know for sure but I think a lot of these really long odds you hear about are often the longest odds offered by a casino in Vegas (like with the 42/1 for Buster Douglas)
In my experience, with UK bookies it’s rare to see odds much over 10/1 outright for the underdog in any fight, especially a title fight (for example, Chisora was 10/1 vs Fury). You’d be lucky to get 30/1 for the draw.
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 10:17
I don't gamble any more, but now and again you can see the bookies are way off, Eubank Junior favourite over Smith was crazy. Wasn't Ruiz 30/1 over AJ too? Think about that, the bookies are saying if they fought 30 times AJ would win them all! That's nuts, with a fighter as good as Ruiz
In the UK he was more like between 12 and 14/1.
Don’t know for sure but I think a lot of these really long odds you hear about are often the longest odds offered by a casino in Vegas (like with the 42/1 for Buster Douglas)
In my experience, with UK bookies it’s rare to see odds much over 10/1 outright for the underdog in any fight, especially a title fight (for example, Chisora was 10/1 vs Fury). You’d be lucky to get 30/1 for the draw.
Yeah he definitely wasn’t 30/1 over here. That would be the longest outsider I think I’ve ever seen in any fight.
I tend to find the bookies overestimate the home fighters or the known fighters in the U.K.
I won a fair bit when Levan Kirakosyan stopped Scott Lawton. Lawton was a fairly big favourite from memory.
I don’t bet much anymore. Had 2 bets last year and 2 this year. Last year I picked Brook to win inside 6 rounds against Amir Khan and I also picked Thor to beat Eddie Hall (Hall was a narrow favourite).
This year I’ve had 2 bets. I bet on Babic to lose his world title fight when it was an even fight and also bet on Stevie Sparks to beat Gabriel Valenzuela. I thought he won but didn’t get the decision.
Betting on boxing is not about gambling - it's about whether you think the bookies have the odds wrong. I don't always think their boxing book runners know more than a well versed fan.
I've had a few big wins - Cory Spinks was 4/1 to win on points at a fight in Atlantic City I was at (would need to check the opponent) - thought the real odds were evens and piled in.
Had a decent bet on AJ to stop Martín.
I had a significant sum on Floyd v MacGregor - it only paid at 25% as Floyd was 1/4 which were ridiculous odds for a virtual certainty. A friend of mine had a large six figure sum on it.
My biggest win by far was in Vegas when at a pre -fight event, a fighting legend told me he had seen one of the fighters the day before and he stank of booze. I put a lot of money on the other fella to win 1-4 with separate bets on each of those rounds.
Loynesy wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 13:23
Betting on boxing is not about gambling - it's about whether you think the bookies have the odds wrong. I don't always think their boxing book runners know more than a well versed fan.
I've had a few big wins - Cory Spinks was 4/1 to win on points at a fight in Atlantic City I was at (would need to check the opponent) - thought the real odds were evens and piled in.
Had a decent bet on AJ to stop Martín.
I had a significant sum on Floyd v MacGregor - it only paid at 25% as Floyd was 1/4 which were ridiculous odds for a virtual certainty. A friend of mine had a large six figure sum on it.
My biggest win by far was in Vegas when at a pre -fight event, a fighting legend told me he had seen one of the fighters the day before and he stank of booze. I put a lot of money on the other fella to win 1-4 with separate bets on each of those rounds.
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 10:17
I don't gamble any more, but now and again you can see the bookies are way off, Eubank Junior favourite over Smith was crazy. Wasn't Ruiz 30/1 over AJ too? Think about that, the bookies are saying if they fought 30 times AJ would win them all! That's nuts, with a fighter as good as Ruiz
In the UK he was more like between 12 and 14/1.
Don’t know for sure but I think a lot of these really long odds you hear about are often the longest odds offered by a casino in Vegas (like with the 42/1 for Buster Douglas)
In my experience, with UK bookies it’s rare to see odds much over 10/1 outright for the underdog in any fight, especially a title fight (for example, Chisora was 10/1 vs Fury). You’d be lucky to get 30/1 for the draw.
Yeah he definitely wasn’t 30/1 over here. That would be the longest outsider I think I’ve ever seen in any fight.
Don’t know for sure but I think a lot of these really long odds you hear about are often the longest odds offered by a casino in Vegas (like with the 42/1 for Buster Douglas)
In my experience, with UK bookies it’s rare to see odds much over 10/1 outright for the underdog in any fight, especially a title fight (for example, Chisora was 10/1 vs Fury). You’d be lucky to get 30/1 for the draw.
Yeah he definitely wasn’t 30/1 over here. That would be the longest outsider I think I’ve ever seen in any fight.
Not saying there wasn't 30/1 anywhere at some point. But I also think journalists sometimes take a fight where the favourite is 1/20 and use that to say the opponent is a 20/1 underdog as it makes better copy.
Finding good bets isn't really a problem. I have a bet that I am 100% confident will win this weekend at good odds. Getting the bet on in the first place is what people run into difficulty with. The bookies all limit you for winning. I have been given the boot from ladbrokes, paddy power, sportingbet, boylesports, betvictor, betfred, william hill and skybet. My crime was winning some bets. Most of those accounts wouldn't even be up 2k. I understand they are running a business but shouldn't they have "winners not welcome" in their advertising?
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑23 Jun 2023, 07:08
Finding good bets isn't really a problem. I have a bet that I am 100% confident will win this weekend at good odds. Getting the bet on in the first place is what people run into difficulty with. The bookies all limit you for winning. I have been given the boot from ladbrokes, paddy power, sportingbet, boylesports, betvictor, betfred, william hill and skybet. My crime was winning some bets. Most of those accounts wouldn't even be up 2k. I understand they are running a business but shouldn't they have "winners not welcome" in their advertising?
Yeah that's what they do, ban consistent winners, they want to take your money, they dont want you taking theirs, that would just be silly.
Rarely bet. But have always got it right on boxing but no big wins.
Lennox - Mason told all my mates at Uni and they all went in. I suddenly got nervous when they entered the ring thinking I'd be lynched if Mason did him.
Hopkins - Tarver just seemed obvious. Tarver had just done that film. He was overrated too because he beat the overrated Jones.
Joyce - Dubois just felt like Lewis-Mason all over again.
Best bet I got up at the boxing was when ggg fought canelo the first time,fancied ggg but felt he'd get seen off from the judges, so took the draw at 20/1
