Who's this generation most wasted talent

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I'll start off and say Gary Russell jr that's who first came to my mind.
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In the UK, many would say Josh Kelly.
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Despite winning 3 or 4 world titles, I think Broner was capable of much more
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I feel like Adrien Broner/Julio César Chávez Jr./Víctor Ortiz/etc. count as the previous “generation” so I’ll try to limit myself to fighters that started boxing since 2016 or so. The big ones that come to mind for me are Chris Colbert and Mick Conlan, Conlan especially since I was very invested in him. I have a lot of respect for him and I think he should consider retirement unless he thinks he has enough to try a third time for a world title, because when you get knocked out the way he did your health comes first and you have to focus on your family.

I’m not going to include Ryan García yet because he’s a young man and still has time, but frankly he was very poorly managed and that was largely not his fault so he has a right to be mad about that. Hopefully somebody looking out for him can get him a title shot, he has the skills and self-worth to win at least one belt at 140.
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524046 wrote: 01 Jul 2023, 20:07 I feel like Adrien Broner/Julio César Chávez Jr./Víctor Ortiz/etc. count as the previous “generation” so I’ll try to limit myself to fighters that started boxing since 2016 or so. The big ones that come to mind for me are Chris Colbert and Mick Conlan, Conlan especially since I was very invested in him. I have a lot of respect for him and I think he should consider retirement unless he thinks he has enough to try a third time for a world title, because when you get knocked out the way he did your health comes first and you have to focus on your family.

I’m not going to include Ryan García yet because he’s a young man and still has time, but frankly he was very poorly managed and that was largely not his fault so he has a right to be mad about that. Hopefully somebody looking out for him can get him a title shot, he has the skills and self-worth to win at least one belt at 140.
Colbert and Conlan are good calls though.
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Gamboa
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Monzon83 wrote: 01 Jul 2023, 19:23 In the UK, many would say Josh Kelly.
Id say he wasnt any good to begin with
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he accomplished good things, but murat gassiev has basically wasted his post usyk career

uzbek shojohan ergashev looked very good most times i saw him and was getting pushed a bit on showtime for a couple fights, then has badly stagnated over the last few years
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fighting your way to a world champion title has zero to do with 'wasting your talent', rather the exact opposite.

no matter what turn your career path takes after that glorious, absolute pinnacle moment in a boxer's life, if you are crowned a legit boxing world champion, you did anything BUT 'waste your boxing talent'.
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world ranked wrote: 01 Jul 2023, 17:57 I'll start off and say Gary Russell jr that's who first came to my mind.
Russell seems to have set an example of inactivity that others have followed since too.
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Mikey Garcia was a special talent at 126-135. Almost effortlessly beat his opponents.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 11:02 Mikey Garcia was a special talent at 126-135. Almost effortlessly beat his opponents.
His return was Decent. Was doing well until big time money came for him and he had the Spence fight.
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So far I think Andrade is the front runner. He's spent his entire career fighting 2nd and 3rd tier opponents without a single career defining fight.
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NateJR wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 12:47 So far I think Andrade is the front runner. He's spent his entire career fighting 2nd and 3rd tier opponents without a single career defining fight.

Again he just isnt great. He doesnt do anhthing well enough to beat next level fighters
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Evander wrote: 01 Jul 2023, 21:53Gamboa
gamboa is a former unified featherweight world champion, having held the WBA and IBF titles between 2009 and 2011, as well as the WBA interim championship in both the super featherweight and lightweight divisions. As an amateur he won a gold medal in the flyweight division at the 2004 Olympics, and bronze in the featherweight division at the 2005 World Championships.

HOW IN HELL IS HE 'HIS GENERATION'S MOST WASTED' TALENT?
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NateJR wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 12:47 So far I think Andrade is the front runner. He's spent his entire career fighting 2nd and 3rd tier opponents without a single career defining fight.
Andrade held the WBO light middleweight title between 2013-2015 and the WBO middleweight title from 2018 to 2022.

he won the U.S. national championships and Golden Gloves twice each. won a gold medal at the 2007 World Championships, and represented the U.S. at the 2008 Olympics.

THAT'S 'HIS GENERATION'S MOST WASTED TALENT'?
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adislav123 wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 19:30
NateJR wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 12:47 So far I think Andrade is the front runner. He's spent his entire career fighting 2nd and 3rd tier opponents without a single career defining fight.
Andrade held the WBO light middleweight title between 2013-2015 and the WBO middleweight title from 2018 to 2022.

he won the U.S. national championships and Golden Gloves twice each. won a gold medal at the 2007 World Championships, and represented the U.S. at the 2008 Olympics.

THAT'S 'HIS GENERATION'S MOST WASTED TALENT'?
He could have done much more
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world ranked wrote: 01 Jul 2023, 17:57 I'll start off and say Gary Russell jr that's who first came to my mind.
gary Russell WBC CHAMPION from 2015 to 2022.

Russell won the golden gloves in 2005 and 2006. national champion 2005 and a bantamweight bronze medal at the 2005 World Championships.[8] In 2011, he was named Prospect of the Year by The Ring,[9] Sports Illustrated,[10] and ESPN.[11]

how did he waste his talent the most out of everybody in his generation?

WHAT'S THE QUESTION OF THIS THREAD?

LEAST ACTIVE WORLD CHAMPION?

MOST DISLIKED WORLD CHAMPIONS?

MOST BORING ASS WORLD CHAMP EVER?

Fighters who possibly hypothetically could've would've done whatever?? got it.
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adislav123 wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 19:24
Evander wrote: 01 Jul 2023, 21:53Gamboa
gamboa is a former unified featherweight world champion, having held the WBA and IBF titles between 2009 and 2011, as well as the WBA interim championship in both the super featherweight and lightweight divisions. As an amateur he won a gold medal in the flyweight division at the 2004 Olympics, and bronze in the featherweight division at the 2005 World Championships.

HOW IN HELL IS HE 'HIS GENERATION'S MOST WASTED' TALENT?
He's one of them but not the only one.
Reason is because he had so much talent and promise at one point, he looked like he could go onto much bigger things.
He was badly mismanaged and got himself into trouble outside the ring and basically fell apart in front of eyes.
Considering as you say he was a decorated amateur, I would have expected him to do way better as a pro than he did.
His performances as a pro at one point were borderline spectacular and he was must see boxing, then all of a sudden he seemed to cop an attitude and got lazy and fell apart.
The question was who is this generations most wasted talent, well considering his pedigree and what he'd achieved as an amateur and a pro to a certain point and to fall apart the way he did so rapidly, I think he qualifies.
Those are my reasons.
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Gassiev, Kabayel, 160 Charlo, Demetrius Andrade
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:shame:
Evander wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 19:52
adislav123 wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 19:24
Evander wrote: 01 Jul 2023, 21:53Gamboa
gamboa is a former unified featherweight world champion, having held the WBA and IBF titles between 2009 and 2011, as well as the WBA interim championship in both the super featherweight and lightweight divisions. As an amateur he won a gold medal in the flyweight division at the 2004 Olympics, and bronze in the featherweight division at the 2005 World Championships.

HOW IN HELL IS HE 'HIS GENERATION'S MOST WASTED' TALENT?
He's one of them but not the only one.
Reason is because he had so much talent and promise at one point, he looked like he could go onto much bigger things.
He was badly mismanaged and got himself into trouble outside the ring and basically fell apart in front of eyes.
Considering as you say he was a decorated amateur, I would have expected him to do way better as a pro than he did.
His performances as a pro at one point were borderline spectacular and he was must see boxing, then all of a sudden he seemed to cop an attitude and got lazy and fell apart.
The question was who is this generations most wasted talent, well considering his pedigree and what he'd achieved as an amateur and a pro to a certain point and to fall apart the way he did so rapidly, I think he qualifies.
Those are my reasons.
:shame: u just don't get it.
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Thurman and Andrade.
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In the pros, maybe Yeleussinov? Clean swept the Olympics against four fighters who've done more than he in the pros (albeit none really setting the world alight and Maestre didn't deserve the Fox W).
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ya yelly is a great example
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Odlanier Solis
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