Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou | TNT PPV - 28 October 2023

[tonyevs]

You used to slag Fury off daily but have never commented on AJ avoiding Wilder for 7 years or him shamelessly ducking Fury twice in 9 months.

Do you often go back and re-watch the first three* Fury vs Chisora fights? Which one is your favourite?

Or do you tend to focus on his fight against Tom Schwarz. Mind you, watching those fights will take you away from your daily anti AJ posts.

I think you are very taken with AJ really. Understandable. He is a bigger name than Fury, bigger box office, has more character, mixed in higher company and fights more regularly, whilst also taking more risks. And hasn't failed a PED test. Different gravy.

*Presumably Fury will fight Chisora again soon (or a tune up for a fourth Chisora fight).

Weak trolling.
Never commented on AJ avoiding Wilder for 7 years or him shamelessly ducking Fury twice in the past 9 months.

Yep. Theres nothing more bitter than a woman scorned.

Move on petal - your just not AJs type.

There is wayyyyy too much evidence that Fury ducked the focus of your love/hate interest (AJ) twice this last 9mths. Just as Fury did Usyk recently too ... its what Fury does.

[The Asleep Lamps]

I think it will be about a 15th ranked guy like Sanchez or Bakole and people will say that isn't exactly a game changer.

Frank’s not daft. If he’s saying game changer then it can’t be just a normal ranked contender as it makes them look even worse.

I can’t see it being Jon Jones mainly because the UFC/Dana wanting to deal with Fury and the nonsense. It’s also a hiding to nothing for Jones as he has a pretty good deal with UFC but unlike McGregor and Ngannou, his background is wrestling. Unless it’s some sort of hybrid, I can’t see it.

Ngannou is easier to get given his promotional position, has more of a boxinng background and some big one punch KOs in the ufc that could be used to hype the fight and it’s something he clearly wants.

The reason I suggested Wlad is that when Frank was interviewed this week he was asked whether Fury would be fighting a boxer next and he said yes. Could be more games but I think Wlad’s always wanted to avenge the Fury defeat whilst the stuff with Usyk may well just enforce that. I’d hate to see him lose badly to Fury so hope it’s not that.

Well it is ridiculous among all the domestic rivalries that UK cannot produce Fury vs Joshua. Nobody that I know cares about Joshua vs Whyte. And Hearn wants to take a shot at Wilder? Joshua hasn't fought yet Fury or Wilder.

[BigDoofus]

Well it is ridiculous among all the domestic rivalries that UK cannot produce Fury vs Joshua. Nobody that I know cares about Joshua vs Whyte. And Hearn wants to take a shot at Wilder? Joshua hasn't fought yet Fury or Wilder.

Joshua has avoided Wilder for 7 years. He’s just turned down 2 World title fights and people on here believe he’s fighting Wilder in a double header in a few months..

[The Gratest]

Your obsession is ridiculous. Pray for Doofy

[Nightmare Roy]

So it's looking like he is fighting the big cage fighter fella

[big lennox]

According to Eddie Hearn last night, Fury is going to take part in an exhibition against Francis Ngannou and won't be boxing Uysk in December/January. It looks like Uysk, if he beats Dubois in August, will face Hgvoric on the same night as Wilder vs Joshua.

It's not hard to see why 99% of the comments on social media are that of Fury ducking Uysk. I don't think anyone sensible (that excludes Big Doofus, obvs) can draw any other conclusion.

For a guy to hold (a small) portion of the heavyweight world titles to take on someone who hasn't had a single professional boxing fight, tells you all you need to know about their confidence.

I don't see the attraction in this exhibition. If there are no knockdowns and it is just a limited sparring match, what's the point of it? If it is a boxing match, again, what's the point: the result is known in advance. I guess the point is to duck Uysk and not risk getting beat.

[BigDoofus]

According to Eddie Hearn last night, Fury is going to take part in an exhibition against Francis Ngannou and won't be boxing Uysk in December/January. It looks like Uysk, if he beats Dubois in August, will face Hgvoric on the same night as Wilder vs Joshua.

It's not hard to see why 99% of the comments on social media are that of Fury ducking Uysk. I don't think anyone sensible (that excludes Big Doofus, obvs) can draw any other conclusion.

For a guy to hold (a small) portion of the heavyweight world titles to take on someone who hasn't had a single professional boxing fight, tells you all you need to know about their confidence.

I don't see the attraction in this exhibition. If there are no knockdowns and it is just a limited sparring match, what's the point of it? If it is a boxing match, again, what's the point: the result is known in advance. I guess the point is to duck Uysk and not risk getting beat.

Nothing to say about AJ avoiding Wilder for 7 years or bottling the Fury fight twice in the past 9 months?

[The Gratest]

According to Eddie Hearn last night, Fury is going to take part in an exhibition against Francis Ngannou and won't be boxing Uysk in December/January. It looks like Uysk, if he beats Dubois in August, will face Hgvoric on the same night as Wilder vs Joshua.

It's not hard to see why 99% of the comments on social media are that of Fury ducking Uysk. I don't think anyone sensible (that excludes Big Doofus, obvs) can draw any other conclusion.

For a guy to hold (a small) portion of the heavyweight world titles to take on someone who hasn't had a single professional boxing fight, tells you all you need to know about their confidence.

I don't see the attraction in this exhibition. If there are no knockdowns and it is just a limited sparring match, what's the point of it? If it is a boxing match, again, what's the point: the result is known in advance. I guess the point is to duck Uysk and not risk getting beat.

Old Doofer criticised Joshua for going to a fashion show 10 weeks prior to the proposed Fury date, then criticised him for not having a trainer in place at 10 weeks. States this as irrefutable proof that he never wanted the fight.
So, using Doofer's own logic, Fury being away to Tenerife for a holiday 10 weeks prior to Usyk, lording it up in Saudi 6 weeks prior, not having a team of sparring partners in place, not having his trainer in place (confirmed by Sugar Hill) and not having any form of training camp set up, well....thanks for confirming it Doofy, Fury ducked Usyk for the April date

I now expect some form of repetitive reply about Poland etc etc etc whilst the part of my post criticising Fury will be removed

[HomicideHenry]

I'm not necessarily upset if he does fight Ngannou or Jones. Why? He said it right after Whyte he intended to do so. So this isn't anything new necessarily. It was all in the works. It's easy money, it draws the general public. It's a spectacle. I don't mind spectacles.



Heck, I remember when exhibitions happened all the time in boxing and mma. So often in fact nobody booed or complained because it was just part of the business. I remember Frank Tate appearing on Tuesday Night Fights having a 3 round exhibition with Mickey Rourke.



Nowadays people have this bizarre mindset you have to "earn the right" to have exhibitions. Or that you should only have them after big matches. Archie Moore has like half a dozen pro debuting professional wrestlers on his actual boxing record and even planned on boxing George "Superman" Reeves ffs. It's a nothingburger and nothing to get worked up about.

But I do believe once it's out of the way, undisputed ought to be what is on the agenda. Since Fury-Jones or Fury-Ngannou is not a real fight, it's just entertainment. But when it comes to real fights the only one that matters is Usyk. There should be no substitutions unless the WBC forces a mandatory on Fury.

[tonyevs]

Doofy is obviously either an alternative account being used to Troll for that persons amusement - or a Fury family member.

There is far too much evidence of Fury ducking AJ and Usyk this last 9mths to enable anyone to dispute it. Therefore, Doofy`s posts are not even worth wasting time reading

Fury needs stripping of the title. He is a very bad joke - Fury really is the Nik Valuev of the current heavyweight division ... big and useless.

[Nightmare Roy]

I'm not necessarily upset if he does fight Ngannou or Jones. Why? He said it right after Whyte he intended to do so. So this isn't anything new necessarily. It was all in the works. It's easy money, it draws the general public. It's a spectacle. I don't mind spectacles.



Heck, I remember when exhibitions happened all the time in boxing and mma. So often in fact nobody booed or complained because it was just part of the business. I remember Frank Tate appearing on Tuesday Night Fights having a 3 round exhibition with Mickey Rourke.



Nowadays people have this bizarre mindset you have to "earn the right" to have exhibitions. Or that you should only have them after big matches. Archie Moore has like half a dozen pro debuting professional wrestlers on his actual boxing record and even planned on boxing George "Superman" Reeves ffs. It's a nothingburger and nothing to get worked up about.

But I do believe once it's out of the way, undisputed ought to be what is on the agenda. Since Fury-Jones or Fury-Ngannou is not a real fight, it's just entertainment. But when it comes to real fights the only one that matters is Usyk. There should be no substitutions unless the WBC forces a mandatory on Fury.

If he goes down the road of his younger brother celebrity boxing exhibitions and what not that's fair enough he, it's a shame though if he had fought and beat AJ and Usyk he would have had a decent legacy. Probably be regarded in the top 30 HWs. He should do the decent thing and vacate the title though, let the boxers get on with it.

[big lennox]

Doofy is obviously either an alternative account being used to Troll for that persons amusement - or a Fury family member.

There is far too much evidence of Fury ducking AJ and Usyk this last 9mths to enable anyone to dispute it. Therefore, Doofy`s posts are not even worth wasting time reading

Fury needs stripping of the title. He is a very bad joke - Fury really is the Nik Valuev of the current heavyweight division ... big and useless.

Sounds like Joshua vs Wilder is a done deal. In which case Joshua will have been in with Wilder, Ruiz and Uysk. Fury, by contrast, will have been in with just Wilder and Chisora.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, Fury's legacy won't be as good as Joshua's. Or Uysk's ( nowhere near Uysk's in fact: two weight world champion and ran Fury out of town).

[jamesmcdonnell]

If furys next 'fight' turns out to be an exhibition agaibst an MMA fighter, then its a complete shambles. Strip the pudendum. Hes not even defending his bloody title.

[mickey1975]

Doofy is obviously either an alternative account being used to Troll for that persons amusement - or a Fury family member.

There is far too much evidence of Fury ducking AJ and Usyk this last 9mths to enable anyone to dispute it. Therefore, Doofy`s posts are not even worth wasting time reading

Fury needs stripping of the title. He is a very bad joke - Fury really is the Nik Valuev of the current heavyweight division ... big and useless.

Sounds like Joshua vs Wilder is a done deal. In which case Joshua will have been in with Wilder, Ruiz and Uysk. Fury, by contrast, will have been in with just Wilder and Chisora.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, Fury's legacy won't be as good as Joshua's. Or Uysk's ( nowhere near Uysk's in fact: two weight world champion and ran Fury out of town).

If AJ gets beat? Do you have Peter Buckley as an ATG?

[Nightmare Roy]

Doofy is obviously either an alternative account being used to Troll for that persons amusement - or a Fury family member.

There is far too much evidence of Fury ducking AJ and Usyk this last 9mths to enable anyone to dispute it. Therefore, Doofy`s posts are not even worth wasting time reading

Fury needs stripping of the title. He is a very bad joke - Fury really is the Nik Valuev of the current heavyweight division ... big and useless.

Sounds like Joshua vs Wilder is a done deal. In which case Joshua will have been in with Wilder, Ruiz and Uysk. Fury, by contrast, will have been in with just Wilder and Chisora.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, Fury's legacy won't be as good as Joshua's. Or Uysk's ( nowhere near Uysk's in fact: two weight world champion and ran Fury out of town).

If AJ gets beat? Do you have Peter Buckley as an ATG?

I don't think he saying he'll be an ATG just that he constantly fights actual world level boxers

[big lennox]

Doofy is obviously either an alternative account being used to Troll for that persons amusement - or a Fury family member.

There is far too much evidence of Fury ducking AJ and Usyk this last 9mths to enable anyone to dispute it. Therefore, Doofy`s posts are not even worth wasting time reading

Fury needs stripping of the title. He is a very bad joke - Fury really is the Nik Valuev of the current heavyweight division ... big and useless.

Sounds like Joshua vs Wilder is a done deal. In which case Joshua will have been in with Wilder, Ruiz and Uysk. Fury, by contrast, will have been in with just Wilder and Chisora.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, Fury's legacy won't be as good as Joshua's. Or Uysk's ( nowhere near Uysk's in fact: two weight world champion and ran Fury out of town).

If AJ gets beat? Do you have Peter Buckley as an ATG?

You have to look at it all in the round. And Joshua is willing to get in there with the best of his era, and Fury isn't. Plus, Fury has failed a PED test which does raise question marks over some of the success he has had. How could it not?

[maverick23]

I’d be really disappointed if it’s an exhibition with Ngannou. That’s fine if he’s active fighting the other too boxers but this will be his first fight in c.10 months after his previous fight was a crap one against Del Boy.

[quickeyg]

Desperate times at FraudRoom

Eggie phones up his YTBC gang and tells them 'can you make another Fury hating video' lol

Same old crew

Ugly bastard Charlie ch*ster looking no*ce from Newcastle (Not TG) likes looking in caves.

The 2 Joshua ar*elickers from London (Are they the same people?)

The failed swimmer (complete and utter loser)

And of course Julius who looks like Buffalo Bill from Silence of the lambs (American connection)

There's tons more.

If the rumoured fight is true - hopefully it sells out and does good business around the world. I know for a fact social media will go crazy.

[mickey1975]

I’d be really disappointed if it’s an exhibition with Ngannou. That’s fine if he’s active fighting the other too boxers but this will be his first fight in c.10 months after his previous fight was a crap one against Del Boy.

X2

[mickey1975]

Sounds like Joshua vs Wilder is a done deal. In which case Joshua will have been in with Wilder, Ruiz and Uysk. Fury, by contrast, will have been in with just Wilder and Chisora.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, Fury's legacy won't be as good as Joshua's. Or Uysk's ( nowhere near Uysk's in fact: two weight world champion and ran Fury out of town).

If AJ gets beat? Do you have Peter Buckley as an ATG?

You have to look at it all in the round. And Joshua is willing to get in there with the best of his era, and Fury isn't. Plus, Fury has failed a PED test which does raise question marks over some of the success he has had. How could it not?

I’d say if Wilder does him it just confirms he couldn’t quite hang with the very top boys.

[tonyevs]

Doofy is obviously either an alternative account being used to Troll for that persons amusement - or a Fury family member.

There is far too much evidence of Fury ducking AJ and Usyk this last 9mths to enable anyone to dispute it. Therefore, Doofy`s posts are not even worth wasting time reading

Fury needs stripping of the title. He is a very bad joke - Fury really is the Nik Valuev of the current heavyweight division ... big and useless.

Sounds like Joshua vs Wilder is a done deal. In which case Joshua will have been in with Wilder, Ruiz and Uysk. Fury, by contrast, will have been in with just Wilder and Chisora.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, Fury's legacy won't be as good as Joshua's. Or Uysk's ( nowhere near Uysk's in fact: two weight world champion and ran Fury out of town).

What will it say if AJ loses to Wilder?
We have had one of Furys biggests fans stating that the AJ we have now is a shadow of his 2016 peak version ... so by that logic it would not solidify Furys standing whom beat Wilder twice already.
But what it would say if AJ beat Wilder is that Furys legacy fights have no value .. because a guy 7 years from his peak who is recognised as a mere shadow of his best version beat him. It would diminish Furys legacy even further - what would Fury then have on his record worthy of anything? Wlad Klit?? an ancient Wlad Klit whom Fury got caught doping for about that time .. and a fight that stank as bad as the worse heavyweight title fights in history.

Nah ... Fury is going to be held no higher than Nik Valuev based on his current record. And even less so if AJ actually beats Wilder.

AJ is no ATG .. possibly on par with Frank Bruno. But he is still comfortably ahead of Fury who is probably even with Herbie Hide about now.

[tonyevs]

If AJ gets beat? Do you have Peter Buckley as an ATG?

You have to look at it all in the round. And Joshua is willing to get in there with the best of his era, and Fury isn't. Plus, Fury has failed a PED test which does raise question marks over some of the success he has had. How could it not?

I’d say if Wilder does him it just confirms he couldn’t quite hang with the very top boys.

But you have recently opined that the AJ today is a shadow of his former self. So would his peak of 2016 (as you again opined) have been able to hang with the top boys?

What does it say about Fury having life and death with Wilder last time if the shadow of AJ actually beats Wilder??

[mickey1975]

You have to look at it all in the round. And Joshua is willing to get in there with the best of his era, and Fury isn't. Plus, Fury has failed a PED test which does raise question marks over some of the success he has had. How could it not?

I’d say if Wilder does him it just confirms he couldn’t quite hang with the very top boys.

But you have recently opined that the AJ today is a shadow of his former self. So would his peak of 2016 (as you again opined) have been able to hang with the top boys?

What does it say about Fury having life and death with Wilder last time if the shadow of AJ actually beats Wilder??

I actually think that version would have given Usyk big problems.

[BigDoofus]

Sounds like Joshua vs Wilder is a done deal. In which case Joshua will have been in with Wilder, Ruiz and Uysk. Fury, by contrast, will have been in with just Wilder and Chisora.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, Fury's legacy won't be as good as Joshua's. Or Uysk's ( nowhere near Uysk's in fact: two weight world champion and ran Fury out of town).

If AJ gets beat? Do you have Peter Buckley as an ATG?

I don't think he saying he'll be an ATG just that he constantly fights actual world level boxers

He turned down a WBC title fight to fight a fat guy that lost to Whyte. Now he’s turned down another WBC title fight in the hope of fighting Whyte again.

[BigDoofus]

Sounds like Joshua vs Wilder is a done deal. In which case Joshua will have been in with Wilder, Ruiz and Uysk. Fury, by contrast, will have been in with just Wilder and Chisora.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, Fury's legacy won't be as good as Joshua's. Or Uysk's ( nowhere near Uysk's in fact: two weight world champion and ran Fury out of town).

If AJ gets beat? Do you have Peter Buckley as an ATG?

You have to look at it all in the round. And Joshua is willing to get in there with the best of his era, and Fury isn't. Plus, Fury has failed a PED test which does raise question marks over some of the success he has had. How could it not?

Joshua has ducked Fury twice in the past 9 months and has avoided Wilder for 7 years.