A very different criteria applies, for good reason and everybody knows it. Irrelevant.handsofstone wrote: ↑27 Jun 2023, 06:23 If it was a murder case would he be guilty beyond reasonable doubt??
Conor Benn - What Next?
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Redback Rasta
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margaret thatcher
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lol talk sport put their video private already?
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Controversial
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It’s on YouTube but newer upload so guess they deleted previous one and replaced it
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My T Sharp
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Amir Khan got two years for strict liability so surely the same applies here. Conor spending a fortune on a ban he could of got for a fraction of the price.
An independent tribunal accepted Khan's argument and ruled out "deliberate or reckless conduct" in a written decision dated Feb. 21, 2022, and imposed a two-year ban from all sport due to "strict liability."
"Strict liability means Athletes are ultimately responsible for what they ingest and for the presence of any prohibited substances in a sample," UKAD chief executive Jane Rumble said.
An independent tribunal accepted Khan's argument and ruled out "deliberate or reckless conduct" in a written decision dated Feb. 21, 2022, and imposed a two-year ban from all sport due to "strict liability."
"Strict liability means Athletes are ultimately responsible for what they ingest and for the presence of any prohibited substances in a sample," UKAD chief executive Jane Rumble said.
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Redback Rasta
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:TU:My T Sharp wrote: ↑28 Jun 2023, 02:37 Amir Khan got two years for strict liability so surely the same applies here. Conor spending a fortune on a ban he could of got for a fraction of the price.
An independent tribunal accepted Khan's argument and ruled out "deliberate or reckless conduct" in a written decision dated Feb. 21, 2022, and imposed a two-year ban from all sport due to "strict liability."
"Strict liability means Athletes are ultimately responsible for what they ingest and for the presence of any prohibited substances in a sample," UKAD chief executive Jane Rumble said.
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polecateddy
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Benn’s goal at this stage is not to get a 2 year ban, which would mean he’d only probably be getting a warm up fight at the end of 2024. But that sort of leniency is unlikely as UKAD rarely award less than a 2 year ban these days. 2, 3 or even 4 years seem to be the common numbers.My T Sharp wrote: ↑28 Jun 2023, 02:37 Amir Khan got two years for strict liability so surely the same applies here. Conor spending a fortune on a ban he could of got for a fraction of the price.
An independent tribunal accepted Khan's argument and ruled out "deliberate or reckless conduct" in a written decision dated Feb. 21, 2022, and imposed a two-year ban from all sport due to "strict liability."
"Strict liability means Athletes are ultimately responsible for what they ingest and for the presence of any prohibited substances in a sample," UKAD chief executive Jane Rumble said.
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Spud
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I think Frostie questioned on here … if everything Is as Benn claims, why oh why hasnt Benn been picked up on previous drugs tests.
The explanation that Team Benn gives to The hearing needs to be utterly compelling, convincing and in addition the case needs to be delivered im a manner that leaves the panel totally convinced as to Benn’s innocence.
Thats where new Team Member Rene Carayol comes in … look him up on youtube, he’s in My opinion a formidable character. I reember being sat with 2 of David Hayes sponsors thinking we were going to lose vital funding due to Davids inactivity.. to cut a long story short, we left the room thousands of pounds extra than what we originally had.
The hearing is going to be very interesting.
The explanation that Team Benn gives to The hearing needs to be utterly compelling, convincing and in addition the case needs to be delivered im a manner that leaves the panel totally convinced as to Benn’s innocence.
Thats where new Team Member Rene Carayol comes in … look him up on youtube, he’s in My opinion a formidable character. I reember being sat with 2 of David Hayes sponsors thinking we were going to lose vital funding due to Davids inactivity.. to cut a long story short, we left the room thousands of pounds extra than what we originally had.
The hearing is going to be very interesting.
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maverick23
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Apparently Benn is still working with his original lawyer too. Certainly throwing a lot it at financially.Spud wrote: ↑28 Jun 2023, 07:56 I think Frostie questioned on here … if everything Is as Benn claims, why oh why hasnt Benn been picked up on previous drugs tests.
The explanation that Team Benn gives to The hearing needs to be utterly compelling, convincing and in addition the case needs to be delivered im a manner that leaves the panel totally convinced as to Benn’s innocence.
Thats where new Team Member Rene Carayol comes in … look him up on youtube, he’s in My opinion a formidable character. I reember being sat with 2 of David Hayes sponsors thinking we were going to lose vital funding due to Davids inactivity.. to cut a long story short, we left the room thousands of pounds extra than what we originally had.
The hearing is going to be very interesting.
The Times interviewer discussed it on TalkSPORT which was quite an interesting listen.
It still doesn’t get round the strict liability point. Interestingly it seems that they released this information publicly before actually providing it to UKAD. I remain of the opinion that he’ll get a short ban (up to 6 months) with UKAD stating there was no intent.
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Redback Rasta
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It will be a disgrace of the highest order if Benn receives a lenient sentence after 2 delivering positive tests. I remain hopeful justice will be delivered but with boxing you never can tell.
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Just spent 5 minutes looking up Dr Mohammed Enayat
1. Can't find any scientific articles published by him (their is a Dr of a similar name but significantly older who has published, a number of articles)
2. This is the company he works for https://lmswellness.com/house-of-lms/
3. He looks qualified to do a test of a persons DNA and determine genetics, aging metabolism
4. Can't find any evidence of being involved in doping in sport
I agree with Coneye. Ignore Benn, don't pay him any attention. Let him come back after a 2/3/4 year ban and start again, but be tested regularly.
1. Can't find any scientific articles published by him (their is a Dr of a similar name but significantly older who has published, a number of articles)
2. This is the company he works for https://lmswellness.com/house-of-lms/
3. He looks qualified to do a test of a persons DNA and determine genetics, aging metabolism
4. Can't find any evidence of being involved in doping in sport
I agree with Coneye. Ignore Benn, don't pay him any attention. Let him come back after a 2/3/4 year ban and start again, but be tested regularly.
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All just PR. You dont release your new case to the media before UKAD if you are confident in your case.
Benn remains in a bad place. No chance there is a fight in September.
Benn remains in a bad place. No chance there is a fight in September.
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maverick23
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I can’t see a fight happening until the UKAD situation is resolved either way.
I don’t know the process for a UKAD case I.E. whether it’s performed like a trial where the evidence is presented which a committee reviews and makes a judgement at the end or whether it can run on for weeks/months.
I would imagine it’s the former and I still think the most he’ll probably get is 6 months which leaves a September fight possible.
Was certainly strange to release it to the public before UKAD. I like Matt Lawton and it was interesting, at least to me, that he appeared to have bought Benn’s story.
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Frostieballs
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So the new 'expert team' are on talkSPORT now trying to blind everyone with science.
I hope Jordan puts up a stiff examination.
So its a combination of freak genetics and contaminated eggs (with a substance not in our food supply).
It is amazing what medical explanations you can find if you can afford to hire the experts.
I hope Jordan puts up a stiff examination.
So its a combination of freak genetics and contaminated eggs (with a substance not in our food supply).
It is amazing what medical explanations you can find if you can afford to hire the experts.
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maverick23
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Conte’s going after Eddie hard. I understand it partly on the Benn stuff but unfortunately, given his history, I find it tough to take Conte seriously.
He went after the lack of VADA testing for Prograis’ recent fight. He’d be in the WBC’s testing program but they didn’t pay the something like £20k costs to have further testing for the fight.
I wouldn’t mention it but surely if he’s going after Eddie for the lack of testing with the Prograis fight (despite it having some), he has to go after every boxer/promoter involved in a world title fight that doesn’t have VADA/ fight specific testing?
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He also had something to say about Joe Cordina's recent fight.maverick23 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 07:43 Conte’s going after Eddie hard. I understand it partly on the Benn stuff but unfortunately, given his history, I find it tough to take Conte seriously.
He went after the lack of VADA testing for Prograis’ recent fight. He’d be in the WBC’s testing program but they didn’t pay the something like £20k costs to have further testing for the fight.
I wouldn’t mention it but surely if he’s going after Eddie for the lack of testing with the Prograis fight (despite it having some), he has to go after every boxer/promoter involved in a world title fight that doesn’t have VADA/ fight specific testing?
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Anybody listen to that bollocks on Talksport just now.
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Frostieballs
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Yeah mate - I’ve mentioned it above.
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I wonder if this will sufficiently muddy the waters. Will be interested to hear what the Fight Disciples think later this week.
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It might muddy the waters for some but for the majority he is still as guilty as sin (and rightly so).
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Frostieballs
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As we all predicted, he will be fighting again soon.
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I'm not sure Eddie posting Benns clean test result is the flex he thinks it is.
Conor said he still eats eggs, therefore shouldn't he still be popping dirty?
Conor said he still eats eggs, therefore shouldn't he still be popping dirty?
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Frostieballs
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Not according to his team as I mention above.
He apparently ate some eggs contaminated with clomifene - maybe whilst in LA. He has a genetic anomaly that means he can’t break down clomifene - hence he popped.
So the question this begs for me is - surely they can replicate the test to see if the same thing occurs.
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polecateddy
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Is he really going for this nonsense and hoping 'this is the story' that will get him back in the ring? I think Clomifene is metabolized in the liver. Too much of that or other anabolic agents can cause damage. Is what he is saying really just - I've got some liver damage detected from taking 6 years of PEDs since the Cedrick Peynaud fight?Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 14:30Not according to his team as I mention above.
He apparently ate some eggs contaminated with clomifene - maybe whilst in LA. He has a genetic anomaly that means he can’t break down clomifene - hence he popped.
So the question this begs for me is - surely they can replicate the test to see if the same thing occurs.
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Redback Rasta
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Fighting again to clear his name yes, but fighting in the ring in the UK anytime soon, I doubt it.
This thing won't be resolved in the media.