Who's this generation most wasted talent

NateJR
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Re: Who's this generation most wasted talent

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adislav123 wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 19:30
NateJR wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 12:47 So far I think Andrade is the front runner. He's spent his entire career fighting 2nd and 3rd tier opponents without a single career defining fight.
Andrade held the WBO light middleweight title between 2013-2015 and the WBO middleweight title from 2018 to 2022.

he won the U.S. national championships and Golden Gloves twice each. won a gold medal at the 2007 World Championships, and represented the U.S. at the 2008 Olympics.

THAT'S 'HIS GENERATION'S MOST WASTED TALENT'?

Yes, Andrade is a Elite fighter, but doesn't have any top names on his resume. Gary Russell atleast has Lomacenko, we have alot better idea the level Russell is compared to Andrade.

Mikey Garcia achieved alot, wasted the prime of his career in a contract dispute. Like Russell, Mikey has names on his resume and we seen him tested against top opposition.

Adrien Broner, is Adrien Broner, too many what ifs in his career. The fact is, he's a goof and he was always going to get in his own way. Broner is actually a overachiever. He seemed to have 9 lives when it came to landing big fights.
KiwiRider
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Re: Who's this generation most wasted talent

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Bandog wrote: 03 Jul 2023, 15:47 Thurman and Andrade.
Thurman had some really niggling, reoccurring injuries which at a rough estimate put him out for a total of 2 prime years. Maybe more. And it is a waste that these injuries cropped up just when he was peaking, but what can you do?
dmckenzie
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Re: Who's this generation most wasted talent

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adislav123 wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 06:05 fighting your way to a world champion title has zero to do with 'wasting your talent', rather the exact opposite.

no matter what turn your career path takes after that glorious, absolute pinnacle moment in a boxer's life, if you are crowned a legit boxing world champion, you did anything BUT 'waste your boxing talent'.

It's all relative

If you had the ability to maybe be a European/fringe world level fighter and you didn't get a British title shot you could be said to waste your talent.

If you had a generational talent and other worldly physical attributes and you win and lose a world title due to lack of commitment in the gym or not making weight or maybe win one and accept being matched poorly and not stepping up or unifying in favour of routine defences etc, you could be said to have wasted a talent.

I don't think there has to be a ceiling on making the best of what you have, it depends of what you had to work with and how you use it
dmckenzie
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Re: Who's this generation most wasted talent

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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 17:25
NateJR wrote: 02 Jul 2023, 12:47 So far I think Andrade is the front runner. He's spent his entire career fighting 2nd and 3rd tier opponents without a single career defining fight.

Again he just isnt great. He doesnt do anhthing well enough to beat next level fighters
But he didn't fight them to find out, so we'll never truly know if he has a better win in him than Liam Williams.
Lenny Cravats
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Re: Who's this generation most wasted talent

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Alexander Frenkel. Sparked Enzo Mac, had a few wins over reasonable opposition, was due a step up, then gone.
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