Ric
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by Ric » 30 Aug 2006, 13:03
What are your candidates for the The Top-Five Rivalries of All-Time? I'm trying to get an idea. I do not have a list of my own. (Please, try not to make them all heavies either, unless that is in fact your list.)
BoxBuzz
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by BoxBuzz » 30 Aug 2006, 13:12
Graziano Zale might make the list. Holyfield Bowe? Norton Ali? Some candidates.....I think we got robbed of the Nelson Sanchez possibility. Robinson-Lamotta?
KOJOE90
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by KOJOE90 » 30 Aug 2006, 13:13
Purely to get the ball rolling and in no particular order.
Barrera - Morales.
Saddle - Pep.
Graziano - Zale
Robinson - LaMotta
Griffith - Paret.
Griffith - Rodriguez.
Williams - Jack.
pundit
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by pundit » 30 Aug 2006, 13:15
Greb Tunney
Leonard Duran
BoxBuzz
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by BoxBuzz » 30 Aug 2006, 13:16
I'm making a prediction for the future.....Valero Pacquio
mattyp151
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by mattyp151 » 30 Aug 2006, 13:17
Joe Calzaghe and his hands?
Just kidding.
Ward-Gatti based on pure heart and excitement.
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by Borinken25 » 30 Aug 2006, 13:24
Bobby Chacon vs. Rafael Limon
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KOJOE90
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by KOJOE90 » 30 Aug 2006, 13:25
Moore - Johnsom.
Carbajal - Gonzalez
Saldivar - Winstone.
Lewis - Britton.
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by Eric the Viking » 30 Aug 2006, 13:34
I'd suggest that a great rivalry has to have at least 3 meetings of the participants - none of these two-fight stands, folks. ;)
I think this one also deserves a "B" list, i.e. great rivalries between guys who were somewhat less than all-time greats, for instance:
Pazienza/Haugen
Gatti/Ward
mattyp151
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by mattyp151 » 30 Aug 2006, 13:42
KOJOE90 wrote: Moore - Johnsom.
Carbajal - Gonzalez
Saldivar - Winstone.
Lewis - Britton.
Great call on Carbajal/Gonzalez.
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by scottmallon » 30 Aug 2006, 13:47
Louis - Schmeling has to be up there if not for anything other than the policitcal ramifications.
Ali - Frazier for sure
Robinson - LaMotta
Leonard - Duran
Graziano - Zale
Carbajal - Gonzalez
From Asia:
Kingpetch - Harada
Chionoi - McGowan / Torres
JC
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by JC » 30 Aug 2006, 13:49
Probably not top 5 but,
Duran - De Jesus
Greb - Tunney
kick asner
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by kick asner » 30 Aug 2006, 14:00
Their was a similar thread awile back that had you list you're favorite triligies. I listed Patterson/Johansen on that thread and I will list it again here.
mattyp151
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by mattyp151 » 30 Aug 2006, 14:05
Robinson-LaMotta....any rivalry that goes 6 fights has to be noted...excluding Smith/Strickland.
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by hebrew_hammer » 30 Aug 2006, 14:28
J-C wrote: Probably not top 5 but,
Duran - De Jesus
Greb - Tunney
Great call on Duran-De Jesus... you beat me to it. I think another one that definitely has to be there is Charles - Walcott.
Ric
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by Ric » 30 Aug 2006, 14:54
And what elements made for a classic rivalry?
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by elmersalsa » 30 Aug 2006, 17:11
My top 5 rivalries:
Ali vs Frazier
Zale vs Graziano
Duran vs Leonard
Barrera vs Morales
Chacon vs Limon
My other 5:
Leonard vs Hearns
Hoyfield vs Tyson
Holyfield vs Bowe
Olivares vs Chucho Castillo
Hagler vs Hearns
pundit
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by pundit » 30 Aug 2006, 17:15
Mattyp151 wrote: Robinson-LaMotta....any rivalry that goes 6 fights has to be noted...excluding Smith/Strickland.
Robinson also had great rivalries with Carmen Basilio (although this was "only" two fights) and Gene Fulmer.
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by Expug » 30 Aug 2006, 18:41
Some lesser talked about ones
Billy Graham - Kid Gavilan
Billy Graham - Joey Giardello
Ketchel - Papke
Wolgast - Nelson
Terry Mcgovern - Young Corbett
Armstrong - Zivic
BoxBuzz
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by BoxBuzz » 30 Aug 2006, 19:37
You know one we forgot that is very contemporary and really represented a deep dislike and actually may stand the test of time is Jones-Tarver. Tarver dedicated himself to become the perfect "Jones Defeater" to the exclusion of just about everything else.
May have had more "bad intent" than any of the others. Tarver's obsession was beyond eccentric.
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by Seamus » 30 Aug 2006, 21:34
Jimmy McLarnin v Barney Ross
Jimmy McLarnin v Billy Petrolle
Azumah Nelson v Jesse James Leija
Sam Langford v Joe Jeanette