Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou | TNT PPV - 28 October 2023

[jwfg]

If AJ was fighting Ngannou, the Luke Fury fans would of course be crying foul.

[MightyWarrior]

Dev Is right, this is a great exhibition!!! # furynaganaganoo

[coneye]

Whats this Lineal champ shite , Until Fury it was almost unheard off , . Its simple it s an exhibition or its not and if its not and its over 12 rnds Francis lands a lucky punch and beats Fury he takes Furys title simple has that , But then raises the question how the fooook do they get away with sanctioning a fight between a undeafeated world champion belt holder and a what is he a wrestler with a 0-0-0 fights in boxing .

Then they take the piss by putting it on PPV , Jeez theres some fooookwits with too much money about , I mean this one is so competetive and such a joy to look forward too , i've already set my alarm to get up early and go for a ride in the rain , and i'm looking forward to that more than watching the Fury circus , don't even want to see John rip his shirt off and challenge Dana

[Coco]

If AJ was fighting Ngannou, the Luke Fury fans would of course be crying foul.

Luke Partridge

[coneye]

Whats this Lineal champ shite , Until Fury it was almost unheard off , . Its simple it s an exhibition or its not and if its not and its over 12 rnds Francis lands a lucky punch and beats Fury he takes Furys title simple has that , But then raises the question how the fooook do they get away with sanctioning a fight between a undeafeated world champion belt holder and a what is he a wrestler with a 0-0-0 fights in boxing .

Then they take the piss by putting it on PPV , Jeez theres some fooookwits with too much money about , I mean this one is so competetive and such a joy to look forward too , i've already set my alarm to get up early and go for a ride in the rain , and i'm looking forward to that more than watching the Fury circus , don't even want to see John rip his shirt off and challenge Dana

Whats more if its a 10 rounder , can't really be a belt at stake so just goes to show that big shithouse , that dosser to coin a fury phrase , is scared to put anything on the line against a wrestler with no fights ,, Jeez and the gullible get more gullible every day ,and will still pay for this shite ,just can't help some people can you

[Nightmare Roy]

I don't think True Geordie is too impressed

[Redback Rasta]

This is the same thing Frank said?

It probably won’t be for the WBC belt.

It will be for the ‘Lineal belt’

But then it might not count towards records?

If it’s not an exhibition.. then is it a pro fight. If yes, then it should count on records.

Sulaiman said it is a 10 round bout. Which means even if it is a recognized professional fight, the number of rounds is not the required championship duration.

[quickeyg]

4 months to this fight and people on this forum are struggling to come to terms that Fury/Warren/Arum OUTSMARTED that rival CLOWN outfit. YOU guys better book a therapy session real quick


MMA fighters are starting to talk about this on YT and social media, add the factor of celebrities, you never know some artists might just say hey I'll sing for X amount

There's nothing like momentum

[HomicideHenry]

I don't think True Geordie is too impressed

I don't really care for the man much.

He was so far up Fury's arse only to become just about the number hater there is. That is why the Fury family always talks about so many fake people because nobody will stick with anyone through thick and thin.

[tonyevs]

Interesting to read that some posters don't consider Fury to be a coward.

Surely, though, an experienced boxer (with height and reach advantages) taking on an opponent with a 0-0-0 in a boxing match is an act of cowardice?

I wouldn't say it's cowardice.
He is just looking for free money .. we can't blame him if there enough Doofies/Dribbles/Mick's about who lap it up.

Boxing is in a bad place. Just look how UFC has done in the list of the top PPVs .. and look where the flagship heavies are on that list.

In the UFC the fighters don't get a fair cut of the PPV pie, the likes of Ronda Rousey was doing big numbers, McGregor too.
So why do you think they want to box? Where they have no chance of winning?
Rousey hasn't earned retirement money whereas she made the UFC millions upon millions.

But that isn't the point I was trying to make.

I meant the UFC has gained lots of ground on the sport of boxing in a short time. The heavyweight division has always been the flagship for the sport .. yet Fury (as heavyweight champion) only comes in at 39th highest PPV.
The only person who looks able to push big PPV in the sport today appears to be Tank (probably helped very much by Garcia) .. Fury as the most recognisable heavyweight champion is killing the heavyweight division. He doesn't care one bit obviously because he is earning well enough .. but I think it will hurt the guys coming into the sport after him for sure.

I agree the MMA guys wouldn't consider coming over to have a definite loss in boxing unless they were paid well.

[Giancarlo]

Pigg did this, prob the best post ever on boxrec, but since admitted he wrote it for fun.
However it did starts lot of genuine rumours.
It's also true that Mickey asked Frank Grant about it and Grant said it wasn't true.
But imo the greatest post of all time

Yep, Pigg's Partride Family parody was the best ever post on here. Absolute gold.

There are plenty of others that would get on the lower rungs of the podium too.

My second place would be Homicide Henry dancing around his back garden with that old iron stove when he was "in training" to fight that lad who chased Zelenoff out the ring in Charlie's only pro fight.

Bronze medal in my rankings goes to a post from many years ago entitled something like "Could anyone take a punch from me?" by some fekkwit who called himself Squat Dogg. Complete with clips of the Dogg himself trying to hit a speed ball.

Honourable mention goes to that great thread about Wakefield's own Paul Sykes from a few years back. Some hilarious stories in that one.

[maverick23]

I don't think True Geordie is too impressed

I don't really care for the man much.

He was so far up Fury's arse only to become just about the number hater there is. That is why the Fury family always talks about so many fake people because nobody will stick with anyone through thick and thin.

He called out the Chisora fight for what it was. He was being honest about it rather than being fake and telling Tyson/everyone else it was a good fight. Fury then came across as childish with his name calling.

[mickey1975]

I wouldn't say it's cowardice.
He is just looking for free money .. we can't blame him if there enough Doofies/Dribbles/Mick's about who lap it up.

Boxing is in a bad place. Just look how UFC has done in the list of the top PPVs .. and look where the flagship heavies are on that list.

In the UFC the fighters don't get a fair cut of the PPV pie, the likes of Ronda Rousey was doing big numbers, McGregor too.
So why do you think they want to box? Where they have no chance of winning?
Rousey hasn't earned retirement money whereas she made the UFC millions upon millions.

But that isn't the point I was trying to make.

I meant the UFC has gained lots of ground on the sport of boxing in a short time. The heavyweight division has always been the flagship for the sport .. yet Fury (as heavyweight champion) only comes in at 39th highest PPV.
The only person who looks able to push big PPV in the sport today appears to be Tank (probably helped very much by Garcia) .. Fury as the most recognisable heavyweight champion is killing the heavyweight division. He doesn't care one bit obviously because he is earning well enough .. but I think it will hurt the guys coming into the sport after him for sure.

I agree the MMA guys wouldn't consider coming over to have a definite loss in boxing unless they were paid well.

You are only focusing on US buys. Hatton, Haye, AJ all did 1m plus just in The UK. Fury v Wilder 2 was up there. MMA is big in America, not here. Wlad wasn’t even ppv in America, nor Haye, Aj, etc so Fury had brought it back over there for the Heavyweights.

[big lennox]

4 months to this fight and people on this forum are struggling to come to terms that Fury/Warren/Arum OUTSMARTED that rival CLOWN outfit. YOU guys better book a therapy session real quick


MMA fighters are starting to talk about this on YT and social media, add the factor of celebrities, you never know some artists might just say hey I'll sing for X amount

There's nothing like momentum

I saw Chael Sonnen call this the most lop sided sporting event ever and he and Michael Bisping both questioned Fury's decision to not fight Uysk and box someone 0-0-0 instead.

Undoubtedly a big pay day for everyone involved but the trade off is loss of reputation as well. The only one that comes out well is Francis Ngannou, but he is sacrificing his health for a big pay day, which is a concern.

[polecateddy]

It does seems totally nuts but a sign of the times I suppose. I think it would be fairly hard to find an even halfway credible journeyman heavyweight boxer who wouldn’t box Ngannou into oblivion over 10 rounds. Clearly moving away from mma because he was on the cusp of becoming fodder for the up and comers. If he’s stayed in the UFC he’d probably have back to back loses right now.

[tonyevs]

In the UFC the fighters don't get a fair cut of the PPV pie, the likes of Ronda Rousey was doing big numbers, McGregor too.
So why do you think they want to box? Where they have no chance of winning?
Rousey hasn't earned retirement money whereas she made the UFC millions upon millions.

But that isn't the point I was trying to make.

I meant the UFC has gained lots of ground on the sport of boxing in a short time. The heavyweight division has always been the flagship for the sport .. yet Fury (as heavyweight champion) only comes in at 39th highest PPV.
The only person who looks able to push big PPV in the sport today appears to be Tank (probably helped very much by Garcia) .. Fury as the most recognisable heavyweight champion is killing the heavyweight division. He doesn't care one bit obviously because he is earning well enough .. but I think it will hurt the guys coming into the sport after him for sure.

I agree the MMA guys wouldn't consider coming over to have a definite loss in boxing unless they were paid well.

You are only focusing on US buys. Hatton, Haye, AJ all did 1m plus just in The UK. Fury v Wilder 2 was up there. MMA is big in America, not here. Wlad wasn’t even ppv in America, nor Haye, Aj, etc so Fury had brought it back over there for the Heavyweights.

As far as I can see; or more appropriate - not see. The Fury v Wilder 2 UK numbers were never released .. unless I missed it?
Where as Wilder v Fury 3 only did 300,000 .. that's very poor for the claimed biggest draw in heavyweight division when the year before Usyk, who apparently couldn't sell out his mother's front room sofa did over a million against Chisora.

I am intrigued what the Saudis get from putting up big money for these fights though. I doubt many will travel there .. and PPVs will likely not be very high given the poor match up and likely time the fight gets broadcast.

[BillyTKid]

Who is going to buy this? I wouldn't watch it for free.

I know Mayweather v Conor did amazing numbers but that was the ultimate sell.

They should have at least done it boxing rules but in a cage, mma gloves and 5 x 5 min rounds. Fury would have still pasted him but at least it would have been unique.

Even people on then payroll are going to struggle to keep a straight face when polishing this turd.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Ngannou is looking at over $8million (£6m) for this.

Fury considerably more.

Ngannou's last UFC purse was $600,000.



"This is life-changing," Martin told The MMA Hour last night. "This is exactly what we planned and visualised so we're happy." When asked if the purse is more than his entire UFC career to date, he responded that it was "by far, by multiples." "He would have had to fight, even by being champion, multiple times just to be in this ballpark."

[mickey1975]

But that isn't the point I was trying to make.

I meant the UFC has gained lots of ground on the sport of boxing in a short time. The heavyweight division has always been the flagship for the sport .. yet Fury (as heavyweight champion) only comes in at 39th highest PPV.
The only person who looks able to push big PPV in the sport today appears to be Tank (probably helped very much by Garcia) .. Fury as the most recognisable heavyweight champion is killing the heavyweight division. He doesn't care one bit obviously because he is earning well enough .. but I think it will hurt the guys coming into the sport after him for sure.

I agree the MMA guys wouldn't consider coming over to have a definite loss in boxing unless they were paid well.

You are only focusing on US buys. Hatton, Haye, AJ all did 1m plus just in The UK. Fury v Wilder 2 was up there. MMA is big in America, not here. Wlad wasn’t even ppv in America, nor Haye, Aj, etc so Fury had brought it back over there for the Heavyweights.

As far as I can see; or more appropriate - not see. The Fury v Wilder 2 UK numbers were never released .. unless I missed it?
Where as Wilder v Fury 3 only did 300,000 .. that's very poor for the claimed biggest draw in heavyweight division when the year before Usyk, who apparently couldn't sell out his mother's front room sofa did over a million against Chisora.

I am intrigued what the Saudis get from putting up big money for these fights though. I doubt many will travel there .. and PPVs will likely not be very high given the poor match up and likely time the fight gets broadcast.

Nobody wanted Wilder 3 as the second fight was so decisive. If you believe Usyk v Del did a million then there really is no point debating…

[mickey1975]

It was also reported Fury v Wilder 1 did 300,000, 2 did 800,000 and 3 did 600,000. Vitali v Danny Williams did 120,000 14 years earlier. Fury brought heavyweight PPV back to The US.

[tonyevs]

On world boxing news website it states:

9 Oleksandr Usyk vs. Dereck Chisora Sky Box Office – 1.059m

So I merely refering to that. If you know better and wish to share though Mick??

[mickey1975]

On world boxing news website it states:

9 Oleksandr Usyk vs. Dereck Chisora Sky Box Office – 1.059m

So I merely refering to that. If you know better and wish to share though Mick??

Yes, I think they were on drugs when they wrote it. Even Hearn has never claimed it outperformed most AJ fights. Do you also listen to Del G on Twitter?

[mickey1975]

Still, i guess it explains why Tyson chose to box Del as boxing him did better numbers for Usyk than facing AJ twice.

[mickey1975]

If AJ was fighting Ngannou, the Luke Fury fans would of course be crying foul.

No, there is a good interview with Hearn on the Ariel Helwani show saying what a fantastic match up that would be. He was really all for it.

[Ruthless-RKO]

On world boxing news website it states:

9 Oleksandr Usyk vs. Dereck Chisora Sky Box Office – 1.059m

So I merely refering to that. If you know better and wish to share though Mick??

never take anything they say seriously.