Biggest Egos

generic screen name · Post by **generic screen name** » 29 Aug 2006, 14:57

My list of guys w/tremendous egos in no paticular order
Larry Holmes
Muhammad Ali
Naseem Hamed
Floyd Mayweather
James Toney
Roy Jones Jr.
Antonio Tarver
Hector Camacho

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 29 Aug 2006, 15:08

Old Larry Holmes seems like a good guy now from the ESPN special about him. He's sorry for the Marciano statement, and has alot of words of praise for Gerry Cooney.

Muhammad Ali, everyone I know who's met him, says he very easy going in private. Alot of what he did was to sell tickets.

Roy Jones Jr, according to people I know who have met him, has a huge ego, but is still actually a nice guy.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 29 Aug 2006, 15:33

Seamus wrote:Old Larry Holmes seems like a good guy now from the ESPN special about him. He's sorry for the Marciano statement, and has alot of words of praise for Gerry Cooney.

Muhammad Ali, everyone I know who's met him, says he very easy going in private. Alot of what he did was to sell tickets.

Roy Jones Jr, according to people I know who have met him, has a huge ego, but is still actually a nice guy.

Notice a trend....

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 29 Aug 2006, 16:32

generic screen name wrote:My list of guys w/tremendous egos in no paticular order
Larry Holmes
Muhammad Ali
Naseem Hamed
Floyd Mayweather
James Toney
Roy Jones Jr.
Antonio Tarver
Hector Camacho

Those guys have the biggest egos by far. You forgot the Latin Snake in there...Sergio Mora has an ego that's gotten large since the Contender.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 29 Aug 2006, 17:12

The question might be, what great fighter doesnt have a big ego.
It just might come with the territory. Thats not to be confused with being a solid citizen / good guy etc. But ya need a little ego. A little edge to ya.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 29 Aug 2006, 17:14

expug wrote:The question might be, what great fighter doesnt have a big ego.
It just might come with the territory. Thats not to be confused with being a solid citizen / good guy etc. But ya need a little ego. A little edge to ya.

Boxing is one of those sports that it's the fighters ass on the line. He can blame a trainer, manager, matchmaker, all he wants, but it comes down to who is the best.

If someone is the best at what they do in a sport so individual oriented, then he is going to receive the accolades and compensation that comes with it. And he also gains the ability to say I am the best at what I do ALL BY HIMSELF>

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 29 Aug 2006, 19:39

true - ego comes with being or making yourself great and as great as you can possibly be.
i dont believe trash talk necessarily equates with ego. in the case of hamed his ego outstripped his true rating as a boxer.
mayweather is close to this too.
i sure wouldnt want to get too near roberto duran's asshole (or anybody's for that matter)

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 29 Aug 2006, 19:49

I cant BELIEVE nobody added the most self-centered prick I ever seen in the last few years: LENNOX LEWIS

Sure he is about the best big man since Holmes and more or less backed up his words...but Lennox Lewis was without a doubt a self-centered egotistical prick.

generic screen name · Post by **generic screen name** » 29 Aug 2006, 20:18

AndreWardFan2006 wrote:
generic screen name wrote:My list of guys w/tremendous egos in no paticular order
Larry Holmes
Muhammad Ali
Naseem Hamed
Floyd Mayweather
James Toney
Roy Jones Jr.
Antonio Tarver
Hector Camacho
Those guys have the biggest egos by far. You forgot the Latin Snake in there...Sergio Mora has an ego that's gotten large since the Contender.

I was going to put Mora, but he's fairly recently famous. Love to see him get his asskicked.

Borinken25 · Post by **Borinken25** » 29 Aug 2006, 20:19

Where is Sugar Ray Leonard?

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 29 Aug 2006, 20:48

six heads lewis before 3 heads were decapitated.

Thunder and Lightning · Post by **Thunder and Lightning** » 30 Aug 2006, 05:47

What about Mike Tyson, he called himself the best fighter that has ever lived.

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 30 Aug 2006, 08:08

borinken25 wrote:Where is Sugar Ray Leonard?

That's what I was thinking. This is the man who arranged for the WBC to recognize his fight with Donny Lalonde as being for titles in two weight divisions in the same fight. The same man who congratulated Michael Nunn on his win over Kalambay by saying 'I'm going to ruin your life, just like I did with Hagler'

Great fighter, complete tool.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 30 Aug 2006, 10:22

Decagon wrote:
Thunder and Lightning wrote:What about Mike Tyson, he called himself the best fighter that has ever lived.
Really? Then how come in interviews, he kept saying that he wouldn't be able to beat a prime Larry Holmes? How come he repeatedly has related himself to Sonny Liston? Talking shit is one thing...

One thing about Mike, I honestly can't believe he is as educated about the history of heavyweight boxing as he is. The guy can talk big time about it and be spot on.

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 30 Aug 2006, 11:46

With somone like Ali and all of his talk he was able to pull it off and not seem like he had a big ego because he never took himself to seriously. He always kept it fun and entertaining, plus his act was original and one of a kind. He was not only a boxer but a showman and an entertainer. Where the act started to lose it's luster was when he used it to cover up for his diminished skills like he did when clowning around in the Evangelista fight. Their it didn't work because he no longer had the skills to back it up with. He more less became a characature of his former self.

I personally prefer guys like Hagler or Salvador Sanchez who would let their skills speak for themselves and did their talking in the ring.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 30 Aug 2006, 11:49

kick asner wrote:With somone like Ali and all of his talk he was able to pull it off and not seem like he had a big ego because he never took himself to seriously. He always kept it fun and entertaining, plus his act was original and one of a kind. He was not only a boxer but a showman and an entertainer. Where the act started to lose it's luster was when he used it to cover up for his diminished skills like he did when clowning around in the Evangelista fight. Their it didn't work because he no longer had the skills to back it up with. He more less became a characature of his former self.

I personally prefer guys like Hagler or Salvador Sanchez who would let their skills speak for themselves and did their talking in the ring.

I wouldn't exactly say legally changing your name to "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler just so ring announcers had to say it is not shit talk. I'm a big Hagler fan, but that is pretty much the cherry on the shit talking sundae.

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 30 Aug 2006, 12:32

Mattyp151 wrote:
kick asner wrote:With somone like Ali and all of his talk he was able to pull it off and not seem like he had a big ego because he never took himself to seriously. He always kept it fun and entertaining, plus his act was original and one of a kind. He was not only a boxer but a showman and an entertainer. Where the act started to lose it's luster was when he used it to cover up for his diminished skills like he did when clowning around in the Evangelista fight. Their it didn't work because he no longer had the skills to back it up with. He more less became a characature of his former self.

I personally prefer guys like Hagler or Salvador Sanchez who would let their skills speak for themselves and did their talking in the ring.
I wouldn't exactly say legally changing your name to "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler just so ring announcers had to say it is not shit talk. I'm a big Hagler fan, but that is pretty much the cherry on the shit talking sundae.

Nicknames are just part of the fight game, and are used to promote and build up a fighter. So naturally the name should be something that is complementary to the individual fighter as you would not choose a name that is unflaterring. Just look at some of the nicknames. Michael"Second to" Nunn, Iran "The Blade" Barkley, James "Boncrusher" Smith, Jesse "Thunder" Furgeson, James "Lights Out" Toney, Jameel "Big Time" McCline Iron Mike Tyson, Smokin Joe Fraizier. They all imply an air of incincibility or indicate that the fighter with the nickname will do bad things to his opponent. Pretty much all just tounge and cheek. Just part of the showmanship aspect.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 30 Aug 2006, 13:05

kick asner wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:
kick asner wrote:With somone like Ali and all of his talk he was able to pull it off and not seem like he had a big ego because he never took himself to seriously. He always kept it fun and entertaining, plus his act was original and one of a kind. He was not only a boxer but a showman and an entertainer. Where the act started to lose it's luster was when he used it to cover up for his diminished skills like he did when clowning around in the Evangelista fight. Their it didn't work because he no longer had the skills to back it up with. He more less became a characature of his former self.

I personally prefer guys like Hagler or Salvador Sanchez who would let their skills speak for themselves and did their talking in the ring.
I wouldn't exactly say legally changing your name to "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler just so ring announcers had to say it is not shit talk. I'm a big Hagler fan, but that is pretty much the cherry on the shit talking sundae.

Nicknames are just part of the fight game, and are used to promote and build up a fighter. So naturally the name should be something that is complementary to the individual fighter as you would not choose a name that is unflaterring. Just look at some of the nicknames. Michael"Second to" Nunn, Iran "The Blade" Barkley, James "Boncrusher" Smith, Jesse "Thunder" Furgeson, James "Lights Out" Toney, Jameel "Big Time" McCline Iron Mike Tyson, Smokin Joe Fraizier. They all imply an air of incincibility or indicate that the fighter with the nickname will do bad things to his opponent. Pretty much all just tounge and cheek. Just part of the showmanship aspect.

Yes, I understand the point of nicknames, but Hagler LEGALLY CHANGED HIS NAME....that's like the ultimate "I'm so bad ass, the rest of you can go fvck yourselves" move.

Thunder and Lightning · Post by **Thunder and Lightning** » 30 Aug 2006, 16:16

Decagon wrote:
Thunder and Lightning wrote:What about Mike Tyson, he called himself the best fighter that has ever lived.
Really? Then how come in interviews, he kept saying that he wouldn't be able to beat a prime Larry Holmes? How come he repeatedly has related himself to Sonny Liston? Talking shit is one thing...

"There is nothing god ever created that could beat me" I belive that's what Tysons said and before the Lewis fight he called himself alot of stuff ans said he was "the best ever"

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 30 Aug 2006, 19:31

"nothing can hurt me - i have no fear, i feel no pain" those are my words in the dentists waiting room.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 30 Aug 2006, 19:46

Sullivan and Johnson from the old days. Baer was sort of a flambouyant personality but I don't think he really fits in the same catagory.

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 30 Aug 2006, 21:46

I can't believe nobody has pointed out Zab Judah. His ego was still large even after Tzsyu made him dance a little.

generic screen name · Post by **generic screen name** » 30 Aug 2006, 23:10

expug wrote:The question might be, what great fighter doesnt have a big ego.
It just might come with the territory. Thats not to be confused with being a solid citizen / good guy etc. But ya need a little ego. A little edge to ya.

It might come w/the territory but its not necessary. Look at Joe Louis a better than stellar champion w/ absolutely NO ego.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 31 Aug 2006, 05:34

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