Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou | TNT PPV - 28 October 2023

[Nightmare Roy]

Would like to see him keen to pursue undisputed regardless of who holds the belts....

But i agree about sanchez. fvck fighting sanchez he dosent deserve it. Hammer, negron, martz.... who the fornicate wants to reward that run, its the worst run of 3 opponents i have ever seen for a top 15 heavyweight. it truely is awfull, (Well Otto wallin might rival it) but i think sanchez run is worse).

How exactly does a guy who hasn't competed in the sport deserve it more? He's a top contender, if AJ and Usyk are running scared you should be fighting the next best available.

Certainly a guy who is fresh and sharp, like Filip Hrgović would be a big danger for a rusty AJ or Fury. Another name to no doubt be well avoided by both.

I'd be happy with that, he clearly wants no part of Usyk, so he should at least be fighting the top contenders. If he wants to be a YouTube/Novelty fighter like his brother that is also fine to but give up the belt.

[mickey1975]

But what is your understanding based on? As FW said to Danny Flexen, nobody has a clue what went on.

*Fury not having a coach in camp
*Skills Challenge saying they offered Fury a lot of money and they were surprised he turned it down.
*Fury's promoters admitting that Fury had turned down a lot of Saudi money
* His promoters saying Fury vs Uysk would be easy to make as they had worked well with Uysk's team in the past and that it would be a simple 50/50 split, only for the split to shift to 70/30 and then loads of other problems.

Those types of things really. Along with Fury saying he will box Chisora again and would fight Ngannou, and then boxing Chisora again and now fighting Ngannou.

And the fact that Uysk had, until that point, never had a problem making a fight and had cleared out an entire division before going on to beat the biggest name in boxing (AJ) and winning three fights.

Fwank, having previously said that he didn't get Jake Paul vs MMA guys, is now saying that a Heavyweight boxing champion in a boxing match against an MMA guy " is a proper fight".

I find it hard to take seriously. I hope you enjoy it. Will you put some money on Fury? It will be free money.

Fwank said he will bet anyone a million pounds that they can’t show him a written offer from anyone because it didn’t exist.

[Twinkle Toes]

Frank says a lot of things, then ends up backtracking. Prime example is moaning about the Saudi money when it didn't involve his fighter, and now all over it.

[big lennox]

But what is your understanding based on? As FW said to Danny Flexen, nobody has a clue what went on.

*Fury not having a coach in camp
*Skills Challenge saying they offered Fury a lot of money and they were surprised he turned it down.
*Fury's promoters admitting that Fury had turned down a lot of Saudi money
* His promoters saying Fury vs Uysk would be easy to make as they had worked well with Uysk's team in the past and that it would be a simple 50/50 split, only for the split to shift to 70/30 and then loads of other problems.

Those types of things really. Along with Fury saying he will box Chisora again and would fight Ngannou, and then boxing Chisora again and now fighting Ngannou.

And the fact that Uysk had, until that point, never had a problem making a fight and had cleared out an entire division before going on to beat the biggest name in boxing (AJ) and winning three fights.

Fwank, having previously said that he didn't get Jake Paul vs MMA guys, is now saying that a Heavyweight boxing champion in a boxing match against an MMA guy " is a proper fight".

I find it hard to take seriously. I hope you enjoy it. Will you put some money on Fury? It will be free money.

Fwank said he will bet anyone a million pounds that they can’t show him a written offer from anyone because it didn’t exist.

Fwank also said on TalkSport that AJ didn't want the Fury fight in December because he didn't have a trainer.

And, yet, he talks about 29 April fight not happening because of Uysk and fails to mention that Fury didn't have a trainer in camp..the hypocrisy knows no bounds.

If you are buying what Fury's team are selling, then I've got some magic beans to sell you..

[samwbr]

Who is Furys trainer for this?

[Nightmare Roy]

Who is Furys trainer for this?

Well John Fury has said Sugar Hill better stay away from him or else! So I'm guessing he wont have a trainer, not like he needs one for this is it.

[BigDoofus]

Usyk and AJ have both twice walked away from WBC title shots twice in the last 9 months. Why have their representatives not made counter offers to the WBC champion?

Fury walked away from a fight with AJ to fight Wilder for a third time..

Didn't Whyte and AJ agree to step aside money to allow Fury vs Uysk but Fury decided to box Whyte because he needed a tune up first?

He really does not fancy the Uysk job does he?

No matter, he has dropped down levels to box Chisora and Ngannou, as is his want. Difficult to justify his own tag that no man can born from his mother can beat him etc etc.

Wilder won a Court hearing for the third fight as you well know. Joshua has turned down fights with Fury since.

[Nightmare Roy]

Usyk and AJ have both twice walked away from WBC title shots twice in the last 9 months. Why have their representatives not made counter offers to the WBC champion?

Fury walked away from a fight with AJ to fight Wilder for a third time..

Didn't Whyte and AJ agree to step aside money to allow Fury vs Uysk but Fury decided to box Whyte because he needed a tune up first?

He really does not fancy the Uysk job does he?

No matter, he has dropped down levels to box Chisora and Ngannou, as is his want. Difficult to justify his own tag that no man can born from his mother can beat him etc etc.

Wilder won a Court hearing for the third fight as you well know. Joshua has turned down fights with Fury since.

Fury knocked back £80m to fight Usyk in Saudi after Usyk had agreed his end of the deal, he ain't gonna get that much for this fight is he?

[mickey1975]

Fury walked away from a fight with AJ to fight Wilder for a third time..

Didn't Whyte and AJ agree to step aside money to allow Fury vs Uysk but Fury decided to box Whyte because he needed a tune up first?

He really does not fancy the Uysk job does he?

No matter, he has dropped down levels to box Chisora and Ngannou, as is his want. Difficult to justify his own tag that no man can born from his mother can beat him etc etc.

Wilder won a Court hearing for the third fight as you well know. Joshua has turned down fights with Fury since.

Fury knocked back £80m to fight Usyk in Saudi after Usyk had agreed his end of the deal, he ain't gonna get that much for this fight is he?

But they are saying he never had a single written offer. They are quite clear about that.

[samwbr]

Who is Furys trainer for this?

Well John Fury has said Sugar Hill better stay away from him or else! So I'm guessing he wont have a trainer, not like he needs one for this is it.

You wouldn't think so but if Ngannou hits as hard as claimed then it could get messy. If he gets near him.

[big lennox]

Ah, well, none of this 'he said, she said' matters in the big scheme of things.

Ultimately, fighters can only be judged on who they compete against, and when they compete against them. It's a fact that Fury has elected to take on a 37 year old non boxer, in a boxing match, in his next fight. That's not in dispute.

And it's a fact that in his previous fight, he chose to box Chisora for a third time.

And fans and his peers can only really go on that. That is the level he is currently competing at.

I have no doubt Fury vs Ngannou will be a massive event, but it is a massive drop in standards to go from Wilder down to Ngannou.

It will be big box office but also a bizarre spectacle. I just hope Ngannou doesn't get too hurt in the process and is able to enjoy the money he makes.

[BigDoofus]

Fury walked away from a fight with AJ to fight Wilder for a third time..

Didn't Whyte and AJ agree to step aside money to allow Fury vs Uysk but Fury decided to box Whyte because he needed a tune up first?

He really does not fancy the Uysk job does he?

No matter, he has dropped down levels to box Chisora and Ngannou, as is his want. Difficult to justify his own tag that no man can born from his mother can beat him etc etc.

Wilder won a Court hearing for the third fight as you well know. Joshua has turned down fights with Fury since.

Fury knocked back £80m to fight Usyk in Saudi after Usyk had agreed his end of the deal, he ain't gonna get that much for this fight is he?

You’re making things up now.

[Nightmare Roy]

Wilder won a Court hearing for the third fight as you well know. Joshua has turned down fights with Fury since.

Fury knocked back £80m to fight Usyk in Saudi after Usyk had agreed his end of the deal, he ain't gonna get that much for this fight is he?

But they are saying he never had a single written offer. They are quite clear about that.

Possibly but didn't Usyk accept an offer from them?

[mickey1975]

Fury knocked back £80m to fight Usyk in Saudi after Usyk had agreed his end of the deal, he ain't gonna get that much for this fight is he?

But they are saying he never had a single written offer. They are quite clear about that.

Possibly but didn't Usyk accept an offer from them?

No idea if a final written offer was given to Usyk and rejected or not.

[Twinkle Toes]

Fury knocked back £80m to fight Usyk in Saudi after Usyk had agreed his end of the deal, he ain't gonna get that much for this fight is he?

They tried to screw the Saudi's for more, but that was their limit at that time. I'm sure most can recall John talking about how he was there to get the deal done and didn't need a promoter doing it because he can do better.

[tonyevs]

Who is Furys trainer for this?

Well John Fury has said Sugar Hill better stay away from him or else! So I'm guessing he wont have a trainer, not like he needs one for this is it.

You wouldn't think so but if Ngannou hits as hard as claimed then it could get messy. If he gets near him.

That slickster Joe Joyce was able to stay clear of Ngannou when they sparred ..

[mickey1975]

Well John Fury has said Sugar Hill better stay away from him or else! So I'm guessing he wont have a trainer, not like he needs one for this is it.

You wouldn't think so but if Ngannou hits as hard as claimed then it could get messy. If he gets near him.

That slickster Joe Joyce was able to stay clear of Ngannou when they sparred ..

He said he had to, his life depended on it. A freak, easily the hardest hitter ever. It's going to need Tyson to be fully switched on for every second to come out undefeated.

[Spud]

I really dont believe it … there are people who
Make out this is a dangerous fight.

Show some respect, and dont try to insult people’s intelligence.

It is in my opinion heavily controlled/contracted horrible, boring exhibition move around

[polecateddy]

Trying to think of other poor ten rounders by heavyweight champions or former champions who would shortly reclaim a title? I remember Holyfield was poor against Czyz before Tyson, and Lewis was on a rebuild v Justin Fortune. It’s funny probably Fortune v Ngannou might have been competitive maybe.

I think the main point is neither Holyfield or Lewis expected to be particularly well paid for these ten rounders. They were rebuilding fights. Fortune in particular was to try out some new skills. L and H were serious, competitive fighters wanting to carve out their legacies. Nothing really like whatever this snake oil nonsense currently is!

[Nightmare Roy]

You wouldn't think so but if Ngannou hits as hard as claimed then it could get messy. If he gets near him.

That slickster Joe Joyce was able to stay clear of Ngannou when they sparred ..

He said he had to, his life depended on it. A freak, easily the hardest hitter ever. It's going to need Tyson to be fully switched on for every second to come out undefeated.

[tonyevs]

You wouldn't think so but if Ngannou hits as hard as claimed then it could get messy. If he gets near him.

That slickster Joe Joyce was able to stay clear of Ngannou when they sparred ..

He said he had to, his life depended on it. A freak, easily the hardest hitter ever. It's going to need Tyson to be fully switched on for every second to come out undefeated.

Yep - shame Sweet Pea Joyce got out slicked by that 2-Smooth-Zhang. No embarrassment to Ngannou though, not many heavyweights as quick as Joe Joyce

Fury will need to employ the same skills he used against Wlad to get past him i recon ... what a beautiful and exciting night of boxing that will be

[big lennox]

Its amazing that Fury has rematch clauses for all his other fights buy didn't want one for the Uysk fight (a deal braker), but has now gone back to having rematch clauses in his contract.

What a coincidence that he didn't want one for the Uysk fight.

[tonyevs]

I think the rematch clause being inserted for this is just a bit of psychology; planting the idea Fury thinks he could lose ..

fWank spouting his nonsense already as we expect; they've wheeled out Slo-Joe Joyce to say how monster puncher Ngannou is and how he had to use his renowned speed and defensive skills to avoid Ngannou's punches ..

We will have a lot more nonsense by October

[quickeyg]

Lots of rumours about:-

Will Cristiano Ronaldo turn up to watch the Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou fight? (lives in Saudi plays for Al-Nassr FC)
Elon Musk travelling to Saudi to talk business and attend the fight?. US singer being lined up. 195 countries will show the big fight.

[mickey1975]

I think the rematch clause being inserted for this is just a bit of psychology; planting the idea Fury thinks he could lose ..

fWank spouting his nonsense already as we expect; they've wheeled out Slo-Joe Joyce to say how monster puncher Ngannou is and how he had to use his renowned speed and defensive skills to avoid Ngannou's punches ..

We will have a lot more nonsense by October

Really? Is that how promoting works? Next you'll be telling us AJ and Whyte dont have genuine beef and are a couple of multi millionaires milking the system...