Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou | TNT PPV - 28 October 2023

[Redback Rasta]

This Saudi in December thing has been talked about since April. It is now mid July and as far as we know, Joshua has not received a written offer, Wilder has not received a written offer and Fury has not received a written offer,

[big lennox]

Lots of rumours about:-

Will Cristiano Ronaldo turn up to watch the Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou fight? (lives in Saudi plays for Al-Nassr FC)
Elon Musk travelling to Saudi to talk business and attend the fight?. US singer being lined up. 195 countries will show the big fight.

Chael Sonnen: " This is going to be the most lopsided sporting event in history"

Also said by Chael Sonnen:

" What kind of scumbag is Fury, though?...

He has weapons and tools that other men can't deal with unless they are armed. And he is going to chose to use those weapons and tools on a 37 year old with no experience and is on one leg.That is a bully, and that is a scumbag"

195 countries will get to reach the same conclusion as Chael Sonnen unless Fury holds Ngannou up.

Sonnen was a big fan of Fury. And it didn't need to be this way.

[Redback Rasta]

Imagine how quickly Sonnen would have accepted a deal like this if one had come his way :OhYes:

[polecateddy]

Ngannou is probably fairly fortunate not to be going the Deontay Wilder route, which surely would have been a 30 second beheading. This will probably be 4 or 5 rounds of walking into shots and being brave instead.

[jwfg]

Does Fury have a rematch clause?

[HomicideHenry]

Lots of rumours about:-

Will Cristiano Ronaldo turn up to watch the Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou fight? (lives in Saudi plays for Al-Nassr FC)
Elon Musk travelling to Saudi to talk business and attend the fight?. US singer being lined up. 195 countries will show the big fight.

Chael Sonnen: " This is going to be the most lopsided sporting event in history"

Also said by Chael Sonnen:

" What kind of scumbag is Fury, though?...

He has weapons and tools that other men can't deal with unless they are armed. And he is going to chose to use those weapons and tools on a 37 year old with no experience and is on one leg.That is a bully, and that is a scumbag"

195 countries will get to reach the same conclusion as Chael Sonnen unless Fury holds Ngannou up.

Sonnen was a big fan of Fury. And it didn't need to be this way.

Sonnen is also the same guy who declared Logan Paul also defeated Floyd Mayweather. Sonnen also had no problem years ago with the idea of Stipe taking on Fury in a crossover match. He's a clown who says whatever he has to say to stay relevant by jumping on bandwagons.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Does Fury have a rematch clause?

Yes.

[mickey1975]

Sonnen is making a career of being outspoken.

[big lennox]

Sonnen is making a career of being outspoken.

Do you dispute what he has said about Fury vs Ngannou?

[Nightmare Roy]

Does Fury have a rematch clause?

Yes.

Yeah wanted it taken out of the Usyk fight, when trying to get Usyk to walk away but wants it in against a novice in a non title fight, funny eh?

[mickey1975]

Sonnen is making a career of being outspoken.

Do you dispute what he has said about Fury vs Ngannou?

I don't take any notice. My youngest loves him and is always on about some sh!t he has said so i just guess he's a headline grabber.

[jwfg]

Does Fury have a rematch clause?

Yes.

Yeah wanted it taken out of the Usyk fight, when trying to get Usyk to walk away but wants it in against a novice in a non title fight, funny eh?

Very strange indeed, Luke must think there's a chance of him getting sparked or outboxed by a debutant.

[deadpan]

Sonnen is making a career of being outspoken.

Conversely that seems to be all that Tyson has left.

[polecateddy]

Presumably the Fury fans hope he settles down and has a proper fight next year. But at best that’s pretty unclear.

[Grilling Machine]

When the promos start, notice how much the talk centres on Ngannou's potential to cause an upset, his Overeem KO on a loop. A flood of this-is-heavyweights from the usual pundits. Classic sign of a mismatch.

[Redback Rasta]

When the promos start, notice how much the talk centres on Ngannou's potential to cause an upset, his Overeem KO on a loop. A flood of this-is-heavyweights from the usual pundits. Classic sign of a mismatch.

The promos for Mayweather-McGregor had the exact same effect and by the time that fight came around, there were not just people swearing McGregor would win, they put money on him as well. The magic of marketing. The casuals will again be lining up to part with their money.

[Grilling Machine]

I won 250 on that, but doubt there'll be much value this time.

[HomicideHenry]

At Home With the Fury's trailer drops...

Between this and Ngannou surely Fury is going to be the A side draw in any negotiations with Oleksandr Usyk having all the leverage cus the Ukrainian will be stuck defending titles against Dubois and Hrgovic that nobody will really watch.

[Nightmare Roy]

When the promos start, notice how much the talk centres on Ngannou's potential to cause an upset, his Overeem KO on a loop. A flood of this-is-heavyweights from the usual pundits. Classic sign of a mismatch.

The promos for Mayweather-McGregor had the exact same effect and by the time that fight came around, there were not just people swearing McGregor would win, they put money on him as well. The magic of marketing. The casuals will again be lining up to part with their money.

I remember people I worked with at the time putting money on Connor, madness, it's the one time I've actually seen Floyd happy to get punched in the face, different gravy, this will be the same, hardest puncher on the planet

[polecateddy]

When the promos start, notice how much the talk centres on Ngannou's potential to cause an upset, his Overeem KO on a loop. A flood of this-is-heavyweights from the usual pundits. Classic sign of a mismatch.

The promos for Mayweather-McGregor had the exact same effect and by the time that fight came around, there were not just people swearing McGregor would win, they put money on him as well. The magic of marketing. The casuals will again be lining up to part with their money.

I remember people I worked with at the time putting money on Connor, madness, it's the one time I've actually seen Floyd happy to get punched in the face, different gravy, this will be the same, hardest puncher on the planet

Yeah, I’m pretty sure you’re right. A 36 year old, that hasn’t fought for 18+ months, and has little experience throwing punches from a proper boxing stance has really a zero percent chance of being the hardest puncher in the planet.

[cormack]

The promos for Mayweather-McGregor had the exact same effect and by the time that fight came around, there were not just people swearing McGregor would win, they put money on him as well. The magic of marketing. The casuals will again be lining up to part with their money.

I remember people I worked with at the time putting money on Connor, madness, it's the one time I've actually seen Floyd happy to get punched in the face, different gravy, this will be the same, hardest puncher on the planet

Yeah, I’m pretty sure you’re right. A 36 year old, that hasn’t fought for 18+ months, and has little experience throwing punches from a proper boxing stance has really a zero percent chance of being the hardest puncher in the planet.

In relation to boxing its as pointless as any youtubers / misfits / 3 sided ring / tag team or any other similair entertainment that is performed just for a big pay day .

The WBC have a lot to answer for here - fury should have been given mandatories to ensure the belt is respected - now its frankly worthless .

personally I was never much of a fan of fury so dont feel that let down but no doubt there are plenty who are really disappointed and see this is just takin the piss and will be turned off as a result .

[quickeyg]

At this rate Joshua will earn 50p against Fury. Smart move by Fury. I think next year we will see the Fury vs Joshua fight.

[big lennox]

At Home With the Fury's trailer drops...

Between this and Ngannou surely Fury is going to be the A side draw in any negotiations with Oleksandr Usyk having all the leverage cus the Ukrainian will be stuck defending titles against Dubois and Hrgovic that nobody will really watch.

I don't quite get the gist of this post.

Uysk is taking on his mandatory challengers, in real fights, and will still be earning well from them. That's a career he can be proud of and it is providing us boxing fans with some genuine fights to watch, but you are more concerned with what Fury is earning etc.

Fury wont set foot in the ring with any boxer with a pulse. He is not competing on the level that Uysk is any longer: he dropped his level to face ancient Chisora again, and has now gone down to amateur level. Fury and Uysk are moving in different circles. Forget who is the A side In negotiations. Fury does not want a bar of Uysk, so it's an academic exercise talking about it.

Fury will get pots of cash but his credibility is through the floor.

The Netflix series looks hilarious, following him around after he 'retired' from boxing only to come back against his great chum, 40 year old Chisora. The whole thing is weird.

Do you feel you get bang for your buck watching Fury in his last outing and his forthcoming mismatch? Ngannou said that he and Fury were going to box at Wembley but they were lucky that the Saudi's came in and made it easier for them. This was Fury's plan all along.

Anyway, here's Dan Rafael diplomatically eluding to Fury being a bottle job. Watch from the 5 minute mark onwards.

[quickeyg]

No one at the PBC likes Dan, they just use him to put out propaganda.

[HomicideHenry]

Dan Raphael is a hack. No offense. He is no more the voice of boxing fans than Peter Dinklage is the voice of dwarfs everywhere.

And unlike most people on this forum I am of the belief that Fury is merely having fun, while playing psychological games and being fiscally smart. He will face Usyk, eventually. People just need to get a grip on themselves. Mayweather waiting 5 years until Manny lost before fighting him is far and away more egregious than what's going on between Fury and Usyk.