Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Yeh just watched the Adam K fight, and RH is mainly an arm puncher ( with chin helpfully in the air ) so unless he’s learnt to use his weight and come forward like fury did, or fury has given him some of his special beef blood drink, i can’t see him knocking out AJ for the upset - you need a serious punch to hurt Joshua. He should get the big Fin out of there in one or two rounds, but there’s always a chance he could walk onto something as he comes in for the finish…
I’m surprised everyone talking about the wilder fight like it’s actually gonna happen? I think it’s pie in the sky. Eddie ain’t got much in his back pocket and there’s a good chance he’ll lose his ace in the pack with that fight.
But if the Saudis are putting up gazillions, anything’s possible I guess
I’m surprised everyone talking about the wilder fight like it’s actually gonna happen? I think it’s pie in the sky. Eddie ain’t got much in his back pocket and there’s a good chance he’ll lose his ace in the pack with that fight.
But if the Saudis are putting up gazillions, anything’s possible I guess
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Here are predictions form some big names in the world of boxing.
Former lightweight world champion Anthony Crolla: "Massively frustrated it's not AJ-Whyte on Saturday night. It's hard to take any positives from it other than at least the show is still going on. Fair play to Helenius taking it on a week's notice. I think AJ establishes the jab and lands a big inside within three rounds."
Heavyweight Frazer Clarke: "The late replacement could cause an issue but Joshua is laser focused and ready to do a job on whoever is put in front of him. I predict it to be a bit cagey in the opening round perhaps but I see Joshua breaking him down in a sixth to eighth round stoppage. There will be a valiant effort from Helenius. He knows what an opportunity this is and he will try to make it awkward in the early going. I can't wait to be there in person and witness something devastating from Joshua."
Former light-middleweight world champion Hannah Rankin: "I'm going with a stoppage for AJ in the second half of the fight. Helenius has an awkward style and heavy hands but I think AJ will find a home for that right hand to get the knockout."
WBO cruiserweight world champion Chris Billam-Smith: "Helenius can be quite tricky and awkward at times. He boxed last weekend but has had very little notice for a big fight. It might take a few rounds but I fancy Joshua to get rid of him in the middle to late rounds. I can't see Helenius causing AJ many problems at all. Even at this stage of Joshua's career, he can hopefully show improvements."
Former super-middleweight world champion George Groves: "I predict an Anthony Joshua win. The best scenario is he blasts him away in a minute and a half. The second most ideal scenario is he boxes well, makes no mistake, punch perfect and he gets rid of him in four or five rounds.
"The worst case scenario is it goes past six rounds. That's not what we're here for. The show was saved to see him blast him out within four rounds. "
Joshua's promoter, Eddie Hearn: "I think AJ will knock him out inside six rounds."
Heavyweight Derek Chisora: "Any fighter can cause anybody problems. Everything is always hard. AJ was prepared to fight Dillian and now his brain's changing. This is what world champions are made of. He has to adjust. First round, figure him out. Second round, figure him out [some more] and in the third round he's going to have to knock him out. I want him to do it that quick - I need him to do that it that quick."
Boxing coach Shane McGuigan: "This is a showcase for Anthony Joshua - knock him out. Dillian Whyte had vulnerabilities. He's been over and knocked out a few times and Helenius is the same."
Super-middleweight John Ryder: "AJ is going to struggle to find his range early on with Helenius being the taller, bigger man. But I think by round eight AJ will get hold of him and the fight should be over. I think this is potentially a tougher fight than Whyte but I feel AJ will handle it and move on to bigger and better."
British super-lightweight Adam Azim: "Anthony Joshua knocks him out in four rounds."
Former super-featherweight world champion Barry Jones: "There's always a worry when you have a late replacement who is 6ft 7in and once was a contender. But Helenius isn't that anymore.
"If Joshua can stay positive under the guidance of trainer Derrick James then I think it will be a good fight for Joshua and will be finished within seven rounds."
Former lightweight world champion Anthony Crolla: "Massively frustrated it's not AJ-Whyte on Saturday night. It's hard to take any positives from it other than at least the show is still going on. Fair play to Helenius taking it on a week's notice. I think AJ establishes the jab and lands a big inside within three rounds."
Heavyweight Frazer Clarke: "The late replacement could cause an issue but Joshua is laser focused and ready to do a job on whoever is put in front of him. I predict it to be a bit cagey in the opening round perhaps but I see Joshua breaking him down in a sixth to eighth round stoppage. There will be a valiant effort from Helenius. He knows what an opportunity this is and he will try to make it awkward in the early going. I can't wait to be there in person and witness something devastating from Joshua."
Former light-middleweight world champion Hannah Rankin: "I'm going with a stoppage for AJ in the second half of the fight. Helenius has an awkward style and heavy hands but I think AJ will find a home for that right hand to get the knockout."
WBO cruiserweight world champion Chris Billam-Smith: "Helenius can be quite tricky and awkward at times. He boxed last weekend but has had very little notice for a big fight. It might take a few rounds but I fancy Joshua to get rid of him in the middle to late rounds. I can't see Helenius causing AJ many problems at all. Even at this stage of Joshua's career, he can hopefully show improvements."
Former super-middleweight world champion George Groves: "I predict an Anthony Joshua win. The best scenario is he blasts him away in a minute and a half. The second most ideal scenario is he boxes well, makes no mistake, punch perfect and he gets rid of him in four or five rounds.
"The worst case scenario is it goes past six rounds. That's not what we're here for. The show was saved to see him blast him out within four rounds. "
Joshua's promoter, Eddie Hearn: "I think AJ will knock him out inside six rounds."
Heavyweight Derek Chisora: "Any fighter can cause anybody problems. Everything is always hard. AJ was prepared to fight Dillian and now his brain's changing. This is what world champions are made of. He has to adjust. First round, figure him out. Second round, figure him out [some more] and in the third round he's going to have to knock him out. I want him to do it that quick - I need him to do that it that quick."
Boxing coach Shane McGuigan: "This is a showcase for Anthony Joshua - knock him out. Dillian Whyte had vulnerabilities. He's been over and knocked out a few times and Helenius is the same."
Super-middleweight John Ryder: "AJ is going to struggle to find his range early on with Helenius being the taller, bigger man. But I think by round eight AJ will get hold of him and the fight should be over. I think this is potentially a tougher fight than Whyte but I feel AJ will handle it and move on to bigger and better."
British super-lightweight Adam Azim: "Anthony Joshua knocks him out in four rounds."
Former super-featherweight world champion Barry Jones: "There's always a worry when you have a late replacement who is 6ft 7in and once was a contender. But Helenius isn't that anymore.
"If Joshua can stay positive under the guidance of trainer Derrick James then I think it will be a good fight for Joshua and will be finished within seven rounds."
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
You mean we gonna find out next week if Doofy is an alternative Username of yours or Dev Sahni`s?
*I still lean to he`s one of yours Mick
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
I have but one question..........Finkel wrote: ↑11 Aug 2023, 18:04no, but is it a conspiracy theory, when this one was conducted in plain sight...
1) friends - check
2) long time sparring partners (under the watchful eye of Malik "Scuba" Scott) - check
3) same promoter - check
4) career subservient to wilder's - check
(same card three times in a row, instead of pushing on with WBA after an eliminator win over Kownacki, his whole career was put on hold for over two years until Wilder needed him)
5) For the WBC tournament, the PBC hand picked Helenius - check
(four PBC fighters, they matched #1 ranked Wilder against #10 ranked Helenius)
6) an arm punch. A dive - check
7) I have some magic beans to sell you - check
Edit: all jokes aside, I'm hoping the Helenius who upset the apple cart against Kownacki turns up and makes a fight of it. Looking forward to this card.
What is Robert's motivation to take said dive?
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Mick has answered some of the questions aimed at Doofy. Coincidence?tonyevs wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 04:32You mean we gonna find out next week if Doofy is an alternative Username of yours or Dev Sahni`s?
*I still lean to he`s one of yours Mick
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
No, you will see, on worldwide television, how the talks went. Cameras were there every step of the way.tonyevs wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 04:32You mean we gonna find out next week if Doofy is an alternative Username of yours or Dev Sahni`s?
*I still lean to he`s one of yours Mick
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Were they there when Fury refused to accept a rematch clause with Usyk, but insisted on one against a cage fighter?mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 06:00No, you will see, on worldwide television, how the talks went. Cameras were there every step of the way.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
You referring to this Netflix @ home with the Furys series you been so excited about ehmickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 06:00No, you will see, on worldwide television, how the talks went. Cameras were there every step of the way.
I don`t want to burst your bubble Micky, and I understand it may be like a 9yr old kid being told Santa Clause isnt real ... but a TV programme about the Furys isn`t going to tell you anything that may detract from the deluded version of the truth that the Furys spin.
But i hope you enjoy it
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Micky has admitted he uses alternative usernames .. apparently its just a bit of tongue in cheek humour
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
If it takes AJ longer than a round or even over 4 rounds to clear Helenius, I don't think it's fair to compare him to Wilder.
Wilder is a known one-punch KO artist and many are sus about the Wilder-Helenius KO.
AJ is not the same as Wilder in terms of taking out opponents.
Wilder is a known one-punch KO artist and many are sus about the Wilder-Helenius KO.
AJ is not the same as Wilder in terms of taking out opponents.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
I've just had the email with new tickets where they've rejigged the arena. Stressed me out, really, transferring etc. The lads have got lower tier, though.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Yes let's listen to what the truth telling, never exaggerating Tyson Fury has to say on his TV show
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
By the reactions online, it'll just be his gaslit, gullible, kowtowing acolytes who'll be watching it anyway, so no big deal.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Fury on the left, mickey and Doofus behind?The Gratest wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 08:53 By the reactions online, it'll just be his gaslit, gullible, kowtowing acolytes who'll be watching it anyway, so no big deal.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Never mentioned any names...

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Wheres Dev?jwfg wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 09:10Fury on the left, mickey and Doofus behind?The Gratest wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 08:53 By the reactions online, it'll just be his gaslit, gullible, kowtowing acolytes who'll be watching it anyway, so no big deal.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
At this time? Making the tea!

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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Anyone got running order? @RuthlessTKO ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
Will post the rbr now..
It's RKO... not TKO
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023
You're a star, Ruthless.