Classic fights I've watched recently

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O'Neill Bell vs Jean Marc Mormeck 1+2
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Foreman vs Peralta 1. I couldn't find the rematch.

*Fight was far more one-sided than Cosell suggested. Scored 5-4-1, 7-3, and 9-1. 7-3 likely closest to reality, IMO.

*Fight served as blueprint for Ali and Jimmy Young beating Foreman.

*Much like the blueprint Ali used to beat Sonny Liston by doing what Eddie Machen did. Liston beat Machen by decision, but Eddie went the distance.

* Crowd booed the hell out of Foreman. He was hated for some reason back then. :maybe:
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Tony1244 wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 12:47
* Crowd booed the hell out of Foreman. He was hated for some reason back then. :maybe:
Because he was the big bad man back then, not the big cuddly god fearing, grill making gentleman he returned as
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davie wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 16:03
Tony1244 wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 12:47
* Crowd booed the hell out of Foreman. He was hated for some reason back then. :maybe:
Because he was the big bad man back then, not the big cuddly god fearing, grill making gentleman he returned as
He did the stare down but in interviews he was usually friendly.
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Corrie Sanders vs Carlos De Leon
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Chris Byrd vs Ross Puritty
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Ike Ibeabuchi vs Chris Byrd
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Chris Byrd vs Fres Oquendo
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Tony1244 wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 16:07
davie wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 16:03
Tony1244 wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 12:47
* Crowd booed the hell out of Foreman. He was hated for some reason back then. :maybe:
Because he was the big bad man back then, not the big cuddly god fearing, grill making gentleman he returned as
He did the stare down but in interviews he was usually friendly.
Foreman was booed back then, because he was the HW Champion of the World and not Ali.
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Tony1244 wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 12:47 Foreman vs Peralta 1. I couldn't find the rematch.

*Fight was far more one-sided than Cosell suggested. Scored 5-4-1, 7-3, and 9-1. 7-3 likely closest to reality, IMO.

*Fight served as blueprint for Ali and Jimmy Young beating Foreman.

*Much like the blueprint Ali used to beat Sonny Liston by doing what Eddie Machen did. Liston beat Machen by decision, but Eddie went the distance.

* Crowd booed the hell out of Foreman. He was hated for some reason back then. :maybe:
the re-match of Foreman vrs Peralta was shown live on closed-circuit back then.
it sounds like it may be lost as I have never heard of any video or film of it anywhere
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Caractacus wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:51
Tony1244 wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 16:07
davie wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 16:03

Because he was the big bad man back then, not the big cuddly god fearing, grill making gentleman he returned as
He did the stare down but in interviews he was usually friendly.
Foreman was booed back then, because he was the HW Champion of the World and not Ali.
Nope. Frazier was not booed like Foreman. Neither was Patterson. Seemed as though I was the only person who liked Foreman in the 1970s.
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Caractacus wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:51
Tony1244 wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 16:07
davie wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 16:03

Because he was the big bad man back then, not the big cuddly god fearing, grill making gentleman he returned as
He did the stare down but in interviews he was usually friendly.
Foreman was booed back then, because he was the HW Champion of the World and not Ali.
Watch Foreman-Frazier 2. Frazier was cheered, Foreman was virtually unanimously booed. I was cheering for Foreman @ a closed circuit venue.
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Tony1244 wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 12:30
Caractacus wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:51
Tony1244 wrote: 20 Aug 2023, 16:07

He did the stare down but in interviews he was usually friendly.
Foreman was booed back then, because he was the HW Champion of the World and not Ali.
Watch Foreman-Frazier 2. Frazier was cheered, Foreman was virtually unanimously booed. I was cheering for Foreman @ a closed circuit venue.
You maverick you! :OhYes:
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oogiebe wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 22:32
Tony1244 wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 12:30
Caractacus wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:51
Foreman was booed back then, because he was the HW Champion of the World and not Ali.
Watch Foreman-Frazier 2. Frazier was cheered, Foreman was virtually unanimously booed. I was cheering for Foreman @ a closed circuit venue.
You maverick you! :OhYes:
I've always wondered why Foreman was so loathed at that time. Was it the American flag waving in Mexico City? I hope not, because that would be a stupid reason to hate him. He never criticized the athletes who raised their fists during the national anthem. Maybe he was just perceived as a bully. :maybe: The NYC boxing fans loved Patterson and like Foreman he had an American pie persona. What do you think the reason was Double O?
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Tony1244 wrote: 27 Aug 2023, 10:11
oogiebe wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 22:32
Tony1244 wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 12:30

Watch Foreman-Frazier 2. Frazier was cheered, Foreman was virtually unanimously booed. I was cheering for Foreman @ a closed circuit venue.
You maverick you! :OhYes:
I've always wondered why Foreman was so loathed at that time. Was it the American flag waving in Mexico City? I hope not, because that would be a stupid reason to hate him. He never criticized the athletes who raised their fists during the national anthem. Maybe he was just perceived as a bully. :maybe: The NYC boxing fans loved Patterson and like Foreman he had an American pie persona. What do you think the reason was Double O?
He purposefully portrayed an image of a surly bullying person. hit Roman while on the canvas. Beat up the beloved Joe Frazier, etc. He was embittered after catching flak for the flag waving at the olympics and turned his disappointment inward and created the mean shell of armor to protect himself.
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oogiebe wrote: 27 Aug 2023, 10:38
Tony1244 wrote: 27 Aug 2023, 10:11
oogiebe wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 22:32
You maverick you! :OhYes:
I've always wondered why Foreman was so loathed at that time. Was it the American flag waving in Mexico City? I hope not, because that would be a stupid reason to hate him. He never criticized the athletes who raised their fists during the national anthem. Maybe he was just perceived as a bully. :maybe: The NYC boxing fans loved Patterson and like Foreman he had an American pie persona. What do you think the reason was Double O?
He purposefully portrayed an image of a surly bullying person. hit Roman while on the canvas. Beat up the beloved Joe Frazier, etc. He was embittered after catching flak for the flag waving at the olympics and turned his disappointment inward and created the mean shell of armor to protect himself.
True, I guess that was before the time when anti heroes like Stone Cold or Johnny Lawrence were considered cool. :lol:
I think he may have been more popular being surly now. His interviews in the early 1970s were kind of strange. He'd say arrogant things such as, "Nothing to do, a child could do it." But he also said stuff such like, "I was glad to get out of there with a victory," in fights that he won in a minute.
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Chris Byrd vs Jameel McCline
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Alexander Povetkin vs Chris Byrd
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Tomasz Adamek vs Vinny Maddalone
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Johnny Bumphus vs Marlon Starling
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handsofstone wrote: 31 Aug 2023, 03:58 Johnny Bumphus vs Marlon Starling
Johnny Bumphus!!! Haven't heard his name in years!!! :yay:
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Marlon Starling vs Mark Breland 1+2
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Maurice Blocker vs Marlon Starling
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