Heres how to respond to a vitali quitschko nuthugger

[BrocktonBlockbuster49]

Its too bad Byrd and Lewis did not give the fans a re-match.

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA!!

facts still remain

old out of shape lewis TKO 6 vitali

bryd TKO 10 vitali

Vitlay would have won both re-matches for sure.

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA BUT DIDNT!!!

Vitlay vs Rahman would have been a mis-match

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA!!!! but didnt!!!!!! vitali never beat a fighter as good as rahman.

[pundit]

The responses:

Its too bad Byrd and Lewis did not give the fans a re-match.

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA!!

facts still remain

old out of shape lewis TKO 6 vitali

.... where Vitali gave Lennox a heck of a fight...

bryd TKO 10 vitali

.... because of an injury. Otherwise Vitali totally domianted Byrd.

Vitlay would have won both re-matches for sure.

A one-armed Vitali beat up Byrd. In the end this is what couts.

Vitlay vs Rahman would have been a mis-match

For sure.

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA!!!! but didnt!!!!!! vitali never beat a fighter as good as rahman.

Chris Byrd with one arm. Lennox Lewis for 4 rounds.

[pundit]

Btw, Vitali had pretty good handspeed.

[Gran Torino]

troll, troll, troll your boat...

[Trent]

I think vitali would have beaten rahman, but of course that is just my opinion. His career was cut short, and I think he would have beaten all the best fighters today if his injury didnt lead him to retirement. I have seen the lewis verse Vitali fight, and I though Vitali would ahve beaten him, if it wasnt for cuts. A lewis in his prime beats Vitali. I stil think if it wasnt for his injury to cut his career short, he could have been in the top 5 heavyweights of the 90s.

[Axe]

Its too bad Byrd and Lewis did not give the fans a re-match.

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA!!

facts still remain

old out of shape lewis TKO 6 vitali

bryd TKO 10 vitali

Vitlay would have won both re-matches for sure.

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA BUT DIDNT!!!

Vitlay vs Rahman would have been a mis-match

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA!!!! but didnt!!!!!! vitali never beat a fighter as good as rahman.

Ah so Brockton = SuzieQ at ESB...good to know.

[BrocktonBlockbuster49]

Its too bad Byrd and Lewis did not give the fans a re-match.

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA!!

facts still remain

old out of shape lewis TKO 6 vitali

bryd TKO 10 vitali

Vitlay would have won both re-matches for sure.

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA BUT DIDNT!!!

Vitlay vs Rahman would have been a mis-match

WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA!!!! but didnt!!!!!! vitali never beat a fighter as good as rahman.

Ah so Brockton = SuzieQ at ESB...good to know.

whos suzieQ????

[The Great John L]

.... because of an injury. Otherwise Vitali totally domianted Byrd.

He won six rounds on my scorecard. It takes seven, and that's only if you don't quit. In the last round, Byrd was backing Bitchko up with power shots! Klitschko's arm was sore all night, but he only quit when Byrd started landing on him.

And who cares if it's from an injury? He injured himself because he was missing all night long. DaVaryll Williamson, Evander Holyfield and several other boxers suffered almost the exact same injury against Chris Byrd. Klitschko didn't enter the fight with an injury. He got injured against Byrd because he was inept at landing punches. He got injured against an old, fat and stoned Lewis because he was inept at blocking punches.

Good post Dec. You're right about the Byrd fight. I remember that the final minutes of the fight Byrd started pressuring Klit and you could see that Klit didn't like it.

[pundit]

.... because of an injury. Otherwise Vitali totally domianted Byrd.

He won six rounds on my scorecard. It takes seven, and that's only if you don't quit. In the last round, Byrd was backing Bitchko up with power shots! Klitschko's arm was sore all night, but he only quit when Byrd started landing on him.

And who cares if it's from an injury? He injured himself because he was missing all night long. DaVaryll Williamson, Evander Holyfield and several other boxers suffered almost the exact same injury against Chris Byrd. Klitschko didn't enter the fight with an injury. He got injured against Byrd because he was inept at landing punches. He got injured against an old, fat and stoned Lewis because he was inept at blocking punches.

Good post Dec. You're right about the Byrd fight. I remember that the final minutes of the fight Byrd started pressuring Klit and you could see that Klit didn't like it.

A one-armed Klitschko who couldn't see a thing because the pain was blackening his vision didn't like it.

A one-armed Klitschko who could still see a little bit outscored Byrd with total ease.

P

PS: btw, two judges had one-armed Klitschko 7-2 up after 9 rounds, one judge 8-1. HENCE: he could NOT have lost barring a knockdown.

[The Great John L]

He won six rounds on my scorecard. It takes seven, and that's only if you don't quit. In the last round, Byrd was backing Bitchko up with power shots! Klitschko's arm was sore all night, but he only quit when Byrd started landing on him.

And who cares if it's from an injury? He injured himself because he was missing all night long. DaVaryll Williamson, Evander Holyfield and several other boxers suffered almost the exact same injury against Chris Byrd. Klitschko didn't enter the fight with an injury. He got injured against Byrd because he was inept at landing punches. He got injured against an old, fat and stoned Lewis because he was inept at blocking punches.

Good post Dec. You're right about the Byrd fight. I remember that the final minutes of the fight Byrd started pressuring Klit and you could see that Klit didn't like it.

A one-armed Klitschko who couldn't see a thing because the pain was blackening his vision didn't like it.

A one-armed Klitschko who could still see a little bit outscored Byrd with total ease.

P

PS: btw, two judges had one-armed Klitschko 7-2 up after 9 rounds, one judge 8-1. HENCE: he could NOT have lost barring a knockdown.

He probably shouldn't have quit then.

Was he blinded in the fight as well?

[pundit]

Good post Dec. You're right about the Byrd fight. I remember that the final minutes of the fight Byrd started pressuring Klit and you could see that Klit didn't like it.

A one-armed Klitschko who couldn't see a thing because the pain was blackening his vision didn't like it.

A one-armed Klitschko who could still see a little bit outscored Byrd with total ease.

P

PS: btw, two judges had one-armed Klitschko 7-2 up after 9 rounds, one judge 8-1. HENCE: he could NOT have lost barring a knockdown.

He probably shouldn't have quit then.

Was he blinded in the fight as well?

He said his vision was blackening because of the pain.
I don't see a reason not to believe him.

[silkov]

Vitali didnt quit against Lewis, he was stopped with half his face hanging off... how anyone can criticise him for that fight is beyond me and remember its Lewis who then quit the sport altogether rather than give Vitali a rematch. I dont consider Vitali an all time great but to label him a quitter just on the Byrd defeat is very harsh and inaccurate... how about Tyson who either quit or fouled his way out of about 4 fights... if you want a real quitter look no further than scrap-Iron Mike.

[evndrbsn]

Vitali didnt quit against Lewis, he was stopped with half his face hanging off... how anyone can criticise him for that fight is beyond me and remember its Lewis who then quit the sport altogether rather than give Vitali a rematch. I dont consider Vitali an all time great but to label him a quitter just on the Byrd defeat is very harsh and inaccurate... how about Tyson who either quit or fouled his way out of about 4 fights... if you want a real quitter look no further than scrap-Iron Mike.

Well, Vitali did quit proposed fights with Rahman four times. If that doesn't make him a quitter, what does?

Injury, sminjury. He probably had an ingrown toe nail.

[Ambling Alp]

Klitschko should be criticized for the Byrd fight, he shouldn't have quit. He did show some guts against Lewis; and may have won but the bottom line is that he didn't.
He may have been the best heavyweight for a while but he didn't prove it. He chose to fight 2nd rate fighters when there were better opponents that he could have fought.
I liked him, and thought he seemed like a good guy, but I don't see how he can be rated very highly. A huge factor in rating someone is considering who was the best opponent that they ever beat. Beating Sanders,Williams etc just isn't that big of a deal.

[pundit]

Vitali didnt quit against Lewis, he was stopped with half his face hanging off... how anyone can criticise him for that fight is beyond me and remember its Lewis who then quit the sport altogether rather than give Vitali a rematch. I dont consider Vitali an all time great but to label him a quitter just on the Byrd defeat is very harsh and inaccurate... how about Tyson who either quit or fouled his way out of about 4 fights... if you want a real quitter look no further than scrap-Iron Mike.

Well, Vitali did quit proposed fights with Rahman four times. If that doesn't make him a quitter, what does?

Injury, sminjury. He probably had an ingrown toe nail.

I guess you're his personal physician that you can assess this so accurately.

[pundit]

Klitschko should be criticized for the Byrd fight, he shouldn't have quit. He did show some guts against Lewis; and may have won but the bottom line is that he didn't.
He may have been the best heavyweight for a while but he didn't prove it. He chose to fight 2nd rate fighters when there were better opponents that he could have fought.

Tell me who.

[pundit]

I wonder why the IQ of some otherwise articulate individuals drops into negative territory when they write about Vitali. Is there a clinical aspect to it?

[The Great John L]

I wonder why the IQ of some otherwise articulate individuals drops into negative territory when they write about Vitali. Is there a clinical aspect to it?

Yeah, I agree. How anyone can defend that loser Vitali is beyond me.

[silkov]

Vitali didnt quit against Lewis, he was stopped with half his face hanging off... how anyone can criticise him for that fight is beyond me and remember its Lewis who then quit the sport altogether rather than give Vitali a rematch. I dont consider Vitali an all time great but to label him a quitter just on the Byrd defeat is very harsh and inaccurate... how about Tyson who either quit or fouled his way out of about 4 fights... if you want a real quitter look no further than scrap-Iron Mike.

Well, Vitali did quit proposed fights with Rahman four times. If that doesn't make him a quitter, what does?

Injury, sminjury. He probably had an ingrown toe nail.

So you think Vitali who was so desperate for a rematch with Lewis was afraid of Rahman???.... why?... I cant see anyone being afraid of Rahman, least of all Vitali. I realise that this may be a hard concept for you to take in but Vitali was actually plagued by injuries, which is the reason that he retired from boxing, ...though I suppose you think he's faking that as well!...

[pundit]

I wonder why the IQ of some otherwise articulate individuals drops into negative territory when they write about Vitali. Is there a clinical aspect to it?

Yeah, I agree. How anyone can defend that loser Vitali is beyond me.

Just confirmed my previous statement nicely....

[pundit]

Vitali didnt quit against Lewis, he was stopped with half his face hanging off... how anyone can criticise him for that fight is beyond me and remember its Lewis who then quit the sport altogether rather than give Vitali a rematch. I dont consider Vitali an all time great but to label him a quitter just on the Byrd defeat is very harsh and inaccurate... how about Tyson who either quit or fouled his way out of about 4 fights... if you want a real quitter look no further than scrap-Iron Mike.

Well, Vitali did quit proposed fights with Rahman four times. If that doesn't make him a quitter, what does?

Injury, sminjury. He probably had an ingrown toe nail.

So you think Vitali who was so desperate for a rematch with Lewis was afraid of Rahman???.... why?... I cant see anyone being afraid of Rahman, least of all Vitali. I realise that this may be a hard concept for you to take in but Vitali was actually plagued by injuries, which is the reason that he retired from boxing, ...though I suppose you think he's faking that as well!...

I don't think there is any point in replying -- Vitali-rage seems to be an infectuous, pathological condition.

[silkov]

Funny how Vitali comes in for so much stick as do the other Eastern Europeon heavies... shame that they werent all born in America then you all could love em and compare them to Rocky, Jack and John and write books and films on them and wear their t-shirts and have their posters on the wall etc!... oh well!... you still got James Toney!... 8)

[silkov]

Well, Vitali did quit proposed fights with Rahman four times. If that doesn't make him a quitter, what does?

Injury, sminjury. He probably had an ingrown toe nail.

So you think Vitali who was so desperate for a rematch with Lewis was afraid of Rahman???.... why?... I cant see anyone being afraid of Rahman, least of all Vitali. I realise that this may be a hard concept for you to take in but Vitali was actually plagued by injuries, which is the reason that he retired from boxing, ...though I suppose you think he's faking that as well!...

I don't think there is any point in replying -- Vitali-rage seems to be an infectuous, pathological condition.

I agree, some people just have a hard time accepting that America dont rule the Heavyweight world anymore.... VIVA RUSSIA!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!... 8)

[pundit]

So you think Vitali who was so desperate for a rematch with Lewis was afraid of Rahman???.... why?... I cant see anyone being afraid of Rahman, least of all Vitali. I realise that this may be a hard concept for you to take in but Vitali was actually plagued by injuries, which is the reason that he retired from boxing, ...though I suppose you think he's faking that as well!...

I don't think there is any point in replying -- Vitali-rage seems to be an infectuous, pathological condition.

I agree, some people just have a hard time accepting that America dont rule the Heavyweight world anymore.... VIVA RUSSIA!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!... 8)

Still better than not ruling ANY division
(and going out at the World Cup at the customary stage in customary style - quarterfinals on penalties...)

[The Great John L]

I agree, some people just have a hard time accepting that America dont rule the Heavyweight world anymore.... VIVA RUSSIA!! HIP HIP HOORAY!!... 8)

I don’t think many have any problem with Russians, British, French, Persians or any other nationality holding the HW title. The issue is with how VK supporters are blind to the fact that he NEVER ruled the HW division. He was a top 10 HW, and had a good career, but Lewis was the best HW in the world during his career, and VK got TKO’d by an old LL in a very sloppy fight. Besides that loss and the Byrd loss, he had a pretty weak resume.

His win over the less than dedicated Kirk Johnson is about the only win he had over someone who MIGHT be considered a world class HW. That’s hardly enough to warrant his inclusion as an ATG. If you see much else in his resume, please feel free to mention it, but it’s gonna be pretty hard to justify any of his other victories as very substantial. Bean and Donald were pretty good, but pretty hard to justify as top opponents. Ernie Els, err, I mean Sanders was about 40 and flabby in their fight. Anything else? Come on, put some effort into this, besides a few simple insults.