It was a great song, and Dylan was a very strong advocate for Carter until later on, when he delved a bit deeper.
I didn't know that Dylan "changed his tune"about the Hurricane.
He surprisingly wasn't a visible or vocal figure when Carter was eventually freed in the 80s. Especially after holding several benefit concerts years earlier to raise money for Carter's appeals.
Did Dylan express some doubts about Carter's innocence or did he flat out consider him guilty?
Years ago I read extensively about Carter, and It wasn't long after Carter was released from jail that Dylan completely changed his tune about him. Hard to be sure if it was a case of Dylan doubting Carter's innocence or accepting his guilt?
Sheeyat, maybe Bob Dylan, after he read the book, he just could never have imagined him ever being released
( even if he was not involved with the 3 slayings)
and then Bob Dylan became "concerned" as a result ?
Caractacus wrote: ↑06 Apr 2022, 12:55
I dunno, but I just only watched the 1999 movie THE HURRICANE starring Denzel Washington for the first time over the weekend,
and watching it, it looked like the director (Norman Jewison) took a lot of liberties with the facts that I had previously heard.
For one thing, there were 3 men in the car at 2:40 in the morning (not 2)when the police pulled it over.
and the Hurricane was in the back seat and not riding "shotgun" as seen in the movie.
also those nightclubs looked way too 'ritzy" in the movie.
I had always thought that the Layfette Bar would have been some type of 'dive" for some reason.
also the Hurricane can be seen in the one night club that early morning in really fancy and expensive clothes,
but he drove a sh*t car and looked to live in a small apartment.
Joey Giardello sued the film producers for, allegedly, distorting the facts about his fight with Carter. The producers settled out of court by paying Giardello an undisclosed sum.
No doubt you're aware that Giardello won a clear decision over Carter in 1964. At the time, nobody regarded it as a crooked verdict. But the movie's depiction of the bout suggests the exact opposite.
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SenorPipino wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 19:54
I don't know if Carter was framed. Very possible.
But he spent much of his life behind bars, including his youth.
He was a self admitted bad ass, so committing murder is not out of the realm of possibility.
I think Klompton gave a pretty good account of where Carter stands among middleweights.
A decent enough, hard punching tough guy, but if his career had not been interrupted, no, he wouldn't have been an ATG.
He was already on the slide.
But Dylan's 1975 ode to the Hurricane was a great tune.
Carter wouldn't have won the world title even if he had continued. He was still in the top-ten ratings, but aging, losing fights, and looking more and more like a stepping stone for younger middleweights on the rise.
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yeah,(IMOP) the 1974 autobiography was all over the place.
I am not a psychiatrist, but it seemed to me he was at least "Bi-Polar" and maybe had some kind of a Personality Disorder
at least.
Parts of the books writing do not match with other sections.
I think a professional writer from the New York Times maybe made the writing bridges in between those parts,
which do sound like Rubin Carter speaking..
Parts of it, when he escaped from the prison in Newark, New Jersey and to try and make it back to Paterson (28 miles) by running non-stop
during the night with 2 other prisoners
but he had to double back because he ran 20 miles out of the way down a dark road in the opposite direction (total 68 miles), he was intercepted by the Highway Patrol at a highway underpass.
that almost sounded like something out of the movie Sweet Sweetbacks Bad-Assss Song.