Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 May 2024, 20:15

Fury - Decision
66
27%
Fury - T/KO
36
15%
DRAW
16
7%
Usyk - T/KO
23
10%
Usyk - Decision
100
41%
 
Total votes: 241

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Awww there there there, poor BigDiddums. :cry: Are the nasty people not being nice about your hero again? Oh deary deary me, that's just terrible. :cry: :cry:
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BigDoofus wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 02:21 Boxing fans happy that the fight has been agreed.
The Knitting Circle has spent all 2023 claiming that Fury is scared are desperately hoping it doesn’t happen.
As a proud member of the knitting circle, can I just ask you......... Why hasn't Fury got a BBBofC licence?
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jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 07:46
BigDoofus wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 02:21 Boxing fans happy that the fight has been agreed.
The Knitting Circle has spent all 2023 claiming that Fury is scared are desperately hoping it doesn’t happen.
As a proud member of the knitting circle, can I just ask you......... Why hasn't Fury got a BBBofC licence?
Your license expires each year, if you aren't fighting in Britain on a yearly basis why would you get one?

Each time he would want to fight in Britain again he can just get one.

Have you got a Russian driving license?
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Coco wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:59
jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 07:46
BigDoofus wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 02:21 Boxing fans happy that the fight has been agreed.
The Knitting Circle has spent all 2023 claiming that Fury is scared are desperately hoping it doesn’t happen.
As a proud member of the knitting circle, can I just ask you......... Why hasn't Fury got a BBBofC licence?
Your license expires each year, if you aren't fighting in Britain on a yearly basis why would you get one?

Each time he would want to fight in Britain again he can just get one.

Have you got a Russian driving license?
He didn't have one for the Chisora or Whyte fights.

And no, I don't have a Russian driving licence. Putin doesn't like Jews.
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jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 09:36
Coco wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:59
jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 07:46

As a proud member of the knitting circle, can I just ask you......... Why hasn't Fury got a BBBofC licence?
Your license expires each year, if you aren't fighting in Britain on a yearly basis why would you get one?

Each time he would want to fight in Britain again he can just get one.

Have you got a Russian driving license?
He didn't have one for the Chisora or Whyte fights.

And no, I don't have a Russian driving licence. Putin doesn't like Jews.
If he already had a valid foreign license.
I was back in England a few weeks ago, as I have a Spanish driving license there was no need to reapply for a British one.
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Coco wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 17:10
jwfg wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 09:36
Coco wrote: 04 Oct 2023, 08:59

Your license expires each year, if you aren't fighting in Britain on a yearly basis why would you get one?

Each time he would want to fight in Britain again he can just get one.

Have you got a Russian driving license?
He didn't have one for the Chisora or Whyte fights.

And no, I don't have a Russian driving licence. Putin doesn't like Jews.
If he already had a valid foreign license.
I was back in England a few weeks ago, as I have a Spanish driving license there was no need to reapply for a British one.
I think you're being a little naïve there, Coco.
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Spencer all optimistic and positive .. but ignoring reality really.

The most likely earliest date for Usyk v Fury will be March 2024. If Fury wins, and he wants to pick up the £164 million for the 3 fight deal then that means a rematch. So then the rematch will most likely be in December 2024 .. if Fury wins that then he may retire. But from previous form its more likely he will try keep hold of the belts to use for novelty fights .. Jon Jones etc until he is stripped.
So once again the earliest anyone outside is going to get a title shot is summer 2025.

Things get tied up for even longer if Fury wins the first fight and Usyk wins the 2nd ... then its a trilogy. That means 2026 is likely when anyone outside gets a title shot.

Those contenders in their mid/late 30s will be reluctant to face serious opposition is my guess.
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tonyevs wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 08:40 Spencer all optimistic and positive .. but ignoring reality really.

The most likely earliest date for Usyk v Fury will be March 2024. If Fury wins, and he wants to pick up the £164 million for the 3 fight deal then that means a rematch. So then the rematch will most likely be in December 2024 .. if Fury wins that then he may retire. But from previous form its more likely he will try keep hold of the belts to use for novelty fights .. Jon Jones etc until he is stripped.
So once again the earliest anyone outside is going to get a title shot is summer 2025.

Things get tied up for even longer if Fury wins the first fight and Usyk wins the 2nd ... then its a trilogy. That means 2026 is likely when anyone outside gets a title shot.

Those contenders in their mid/late 30s will be reluctant to face serious opposition is my guess.
If they have an immediate rematch, the IBF belt will be lost. So it'll be Hrvgovic vs TBC.
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tonyevs wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 08:40 Spencer all optimistic and positive .. but ignoring reality really.

The most likely earliest date for Usyk v Fury will be March 2024. If Fury wins, and he wants to pick up the £164 million for the 3 fight deal then that means a rematch. So then the rematch will most likely be in December 2024 .. if Fury wins that then he may retire. But from previous form its more likely he will try keep hold of the belts to use for novelty fights .. Jon Jones etc until he is stripped.
So once again the earliest anyone outside is going to get a title shot is summer 2025.

Things get tied up for even longer if Fury wins the first fight and Usyk wins the 2nd ... then its a trilogy. That means 2026 is likely when anyone outside gets a title shot.

Those contenders in their mid/late 30s will be reluctant to face serious opposition is my guess.
Ignoring reality?
You've spent months saying Fury won't fight Usyk.
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jwfg wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 09:56
tonyevs wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 08:40 Spencer all optimistic and positive .. but ignoring reality really.

The most likely earliest date for Usyk v Fury will be March 2024. If Fury wins, and he wants to pick up the £164 million for the 3 fight deal then that means a rematch. So then the rematch will most likely be in December 2024 .. if Fury wins that then he may retire. But from previous form its more likely he will try keep hold of the belts to use for novelty fights .. Jon Jones etc until he is stripped.
So once again the earliest anyone outside is going to get a title shot is summer 2025.

Things get tied up for even longer if Fury wins the first fight and Usyk wins the 2nd ... then its a trilogy. That means 2026 is likely when anyone outside gets a title shot.

Those contenders in their mid/late 30s will be reluctant to face serious opposition is my guess.
If they have an immediate rematch, the IBF belt will be lost. So it'll be Hrvgovic vs TBC.
I agree (and no way Joshua goes near Wilder).
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BigDoofus wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 15:47
jwfg wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 09:56
tonyevs wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 08:40 Spencer all optimistic and positive .. but ignoring reality really.

The most likely earliest date for Usyk v Fury will be March 2024. If Fury wins, and he wants to pick up the £164 million for the 3 fight deal then that means a rematch. So then the rematch will most likely be in December 2024 .. if Fury wins that then he may retire. But from previous form its more likely he will try keep hold of the belts to use for novelty fights .. Jon Jones etc until he is stripped.
So once again the earliest anyone outside is going to get a title shot is summer 2025.

Things get tied up for even longer if Fury wins the first fight and Usyk wins the 2nd ... then its a trilogy. That means 2026 is likely when anyone outside gets a title shot.

Those contenders in their mid/late 30s will be reluctant to face serious opposition is my guess.
If they have an immediate rematch, the IBF belt will be lost. So it'll be Hrvgovic vs TBC.
I agree (and no way Joshua goes near Wilder).
Do you think Fury was scared of David Price when he avoided him?
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jwfg wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 15:56
BigDoofus wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 15:47
jwfg wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 09:56

If they have an immediate rematch, the IBF belt will be lost. So it'll be Hrvgovic vs TBC.
I agree (and no way Joshua goes near Wilder).
Do you think Fury was scared of David Price when he avoided him?
The brutal battering Fury took in the ams of Price must have really put him off....
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Suddenly turned into an Irishman to avoid big Davey.
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BigDoofus wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 15:47
jwfg wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 09:56
tonyevs wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 08:40 Spencer all optimistic and positive .. but ignoring reality really.

The most likely earliest date for Usyk v Fury will be March 2024. If Fury wins, and he wants to pick up the £164 million for the 3 fight deal then that means a rematch. So then the rematch will most likely be in December 2024 .. if Fury wins that then he may retire. But from previous form its more likely he will try keep hold of the belts to use for novelty fights .. Jon Jones etc until he is stripped.
So once again the earliest anyone outside is going to get a title shot is summer 2025.

Things get tied up for even longer if Fury wins the first fight and Usyk wins the 2nd ... then its a trilogy. That means 2026 is likely when anyone outside gets a title shot.

Those contenders in their mid/late 30s will be reluctant to face serious opposition is my guess.
If they have an immediate rematch, the IBF belt will be lost. So it'll be Hrvgovic vs TBC.
I agree (and no way Joshua goes near Wilder).
I think he will if it's for some of that silly Saudi money, it sounds like they are after that one last fcuk off payout, like when asked about Zhang, Hearn keeps saying if it's at the birds nest in Beijing etc. Westher those offers will come is another matter.
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BigDoofus wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 15:45
tonyevs wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 08:40 Spencer all optimistic and positive .. but ignoring reality really.

The most likely earliest date for Usyk v Fury will be March 2024. If Fury wins, and he wants to pick up the £164 million for the 3 fight deal then that means a rematch. So then the rematch will most likely be in December 2024 .. if Fury wins that then he may retire. But from previous form its more likely he will try keep hold of the belts to use for novelty fights .. Jon Jones etc until he is stripped.
So once again the earliest anyone outside is going to get a title shot is summer 2025.

Things get tied up for even longer if Fury wins the first fight and Usyk wins the 2nd ... then its a trilogy. That means 2026 is likely when anyone outside gets a title shot.

Those contenders in their mid/late 30s will be reluctant to face serious opposition is my guess.
Ignoring reality?
You've spent months saying Fury won't fight Usyk.
And Fury still hasn't fought him :shame:

You have fallen into the Fury trap of talking about a fight is the same as actually having the fight :doh:

Let's hope Fury does actually fight Usyk after Ngannou
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It’s been 13 and a half months since Usyk-Joshua2. Usyk has been offered the fight twice. First time he pulled out injured and the second he walked away in the hope of a better deal from Saudi.
Toneyvs and the rest of the Knitting Circle have chosen to slate Fury on a daily basis yet have little to say on Joshua not facing Wilder in over 7 years.
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Awwww poor poor BigDiddums :cry: :cry:
Another howwible howwible day with lots of howwible howwible people saying tewwible tewwible things about poor little lamb Tyson Fuwy. How utterly awful. :cry: :cry:
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BigDoofus wrote: 06 Oct 2023, 03:58 It’s been 13 and a half months since Usyk-Joshua2. Usyk has been offered the fight twice. First time he pulled out injured and the second he walked away in the hope of a better deal from Saudi.
Toneyvs and the rest of the Knitting Circle have chosen to slate Fury on a daily basis yet have little to say on Joshua not facing Wilder in over 7 years.
Why do you always take Fury's side? Are you two lovers or something?

N.B. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 18:48
BigDoofus wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 15:47
jwfg wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 09:56

If they have an immediate rematch, the IBF belt will be lost. So it'll be Hrvgovic vs TBC.
I agree (and no way Joshua goes near Wilder).
I think he will if it's for some of that silly Saudi money, it sounds like they are after that one last fcuk off payout, like when asked about Zhang, Hearn keeps saying if it's at the birds nest in Beijing etc. Westher those offers will come is another matter.
Did you genuinely believe they were going to pay Joshua and Wilder all that money to appear on the undercard?
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BigDoofus wrote: 06 Oct 2023, 03:58 It’s been 13 and a half months since Usyk-Joshua2. Usyk has been offered the fight twice. First time he pulled out injured and the second he walked away in the hope of a better deal from Saudi.
Toneyvs and the rest of the Knitting Circle have chosen to slate Fury on a daily basis yet have little to say on Joshua not facing Wilder in over 7 years.
Fury offered the to fight Usyk at the exact dates Usyk said he wouldn't be ready .. coincidence?
Then again offered the fight .. but with a silly condition to scare Usyk off, then started making even more sillier demand after Usyk agreed. Usyk predictably didn't want to waste more time so walked away.

What with Joshua v Wilder when discussing Fury v Usyk??
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Fury refused Usyk a rematch clause in April, but has agreed to one now. Tells you everything you need to know. Fury could not fight in April.
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BigDoofus wrote: 06 Oct 2023, 04:26
Nightmare Roy wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 18:48
BigDoofus wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 15:47

I agree (and no way Joshua goes near Wilder).
I think he will if it's for some of that silly Saudi money, it sounds like they are after that one last fcuk off payout, like when asked about Zhang, Hearn keeps saying if it's at the birds nest in Beijing etc. Westher those offers will come is another matter.
Did you genuinely believe they were going to pay Joshua and Wilder all that money to appear on the undercard?
Nope never believed they would have both fights on, why would they? They would have to find gazillions more and not sell many extra PPV fights. Both fights are huge on their own.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Oct 2023, 08:30
BigDoofus wrote: 06 Oct 2023, 04:26
Nightmare Roy wrote: 05 Oct 2023, 18:48

I think he will if it's for some of that silly Saudi money, it sounds like they are after that one last fcuk off payout, like when asked about Zhang, Hearn keeps saying if it's at the birds nest in Beijing etc. Westher those offers will come is another matter.
Did you genuinely believe they were going to pay Joshua and Wilder all that money to appear on the undercard?
Nope never believed they would have both fights on, why would they? They would have to find gazillions more and not sell many extra PPV fights. Both fights are huge on their own.
I read a series of interviews with several billionaires a while back and all of them shared the same thing, it's not about the money. It's about winning and status. Who has a bigger yacht, bigger houses and doing things the other person can't.

The Saudi idea of the double header was essentially saying, 'look at me, I promoted the biggest boxing show ever'.
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