Tyson Fury’s real ranking in The Pantheon of HWs

[SeanBrennan]

every single generation claims the 'monsters' of previous generation would beat the current generation. It's tedious and rarely true.

Ike is where he should be. In a cell.

[Boxerbeetle]

every single generation claims the 'monsters' of previous generation would beat the current generation. It's tedious and rarely true.

Boxing is probably worse than most sports when it comes to rose-tinted reminiscing of the past. But even so, it's obvious to anyone that the heavyweight division has been on its arse basically since Lennox retired. And it's not like it was unexpected - I clearly remember as a teenager in the 90s listening to experienced critics bemoaning the lack of quality in the pipeline for the heavies, with potential future stars being attracted to NFL / NBA instead (and now UFC is another viable option).

You could probably pluck a random contender from the 70s into the current heavyweight scene, and he'd dominate with an iron fist. The quality just is not there; Fury, Wilder & Joshua would be nowhere near the top in another era.

[si7dog7]

Killer Inside: The Mind of Aaron Hernandez Is a good one to watch of Netflix. Shows how much off the rails people can go with that sort of brain injury. Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE).

thanks, going to give it a watch.

Very good doc

[Kilburn]

every single generation claims the 'monsters' of previous generation would beat the current generation. It's tedious and rarely true.

Not half as tedious as the repeated claims that someone like Tyson Fury could seriously compete on any level, with the greatest heavyweight boxers in history.

[polecateddy]

every single generation claims the 'monsters' of previous generation would beat the current generation. It's tedious and rarely true.

Not half as tedious as the repeated claims that someone like Tyson Fury could seriously compete on any level, with the greatest heavyweight boxers in history.

Yes there’s plenty of gems on the forum, like this one from mickey1975 in July;

‘Top 20 (all-time great) so far. Unbeaten. That will count for a lot if it stays the same. I expect he will be mentioned as top ten by most, just as Mike Tyson is although in my eyes he is just outside. The vast majority of people just don’t have the time or interest to scrutinise the records intensely. I see the AJ fight as a formality but beating Usyk would be nice. No doubt on here he will be ridiculously low but this isn’t a genuine reflection of people’s opinion, The undefeated heavyweight champion of the world who conquered mental health, WWE and the UFC, what a legacy.‘

[gilgamesh]

We’re certainly over that hump now where routinely on this forum people would declare Joshua, Fury, Wilder and Usyk as better than Holyfield, Bowe, sometimes even Lewis. There’s a harsh dose of reality now that clearly they aren’t made of that special stuff. It’s just a bad era end of story!

It's a Bad era because it's not as good as the 2nd best era ever?

I'd say generally speaking we're in a fairly good era of Heavyweights. Certainly an era where everyone is much more physically imposing. Even with the 70's and 90's it's not as if the entire Top 10 of that time would kick the asses of all of the top guys of this era.

Styles make fights. Then and now.

There isn't an era or generation of fighters where every single one of them is better than every single fighter from another era.

[gilgamesh]

It is frightening to think what Ibeabuchi would have done to Fury last night. It would have been like Ngganou's best flurry coming at him constantly for as long as Fury could last, which is probably 5 rounds.

Ibeabuchi is a f*cking loser, and his legacy is that he's a f*cking loser.

I don't give him credit of "He could've" beat any Heavyweight.

I thought he didn't deserve the decision over Tua, and he showed what kinda human being he was afterward. F*ck that guy.

Not a fan?

I just don't put much stock in a guy that f*cked it all up before he even got his shot to compete at the top. What we think he might've done is irrelevant.

Fact is, he couldn't keep out of Prison. So he ain't beating nobody is he?

[Frostieballs]

every single generation claims the 'monsters' of previous generation would beat the current generation. It's tedious and rarely true.

Boxing is probably worse than most sports when it comes to rose-tinted reminiscing of the past. But even so, it's obvious to anyone that the heavyweight division has been on its arse basically since Lennox retired. And it's not like it was unexpected - I clearly remember as a teenager in the 90s listening to experienced critics bemoaning the lack of quality in the pipeline for the heavies, with potential future stars being attracted to NFL / NBA instead (and now UFC is another viable option).

You could probably pluck a random contender from the 70s into the current heavyweight scene, and he'd dominate with an iron fist. The quality just is not there; Fury, Wilder & Joshua would be nowhere near the top in another era.

I don’t prefer heavyweight boxers from the past because I necessarily think they would beat their modern day counterparts.

The fights were just better. A lot of over cautious jab flicking and snooze fests now. Wlad-Fury being the number one example.

[SeanBrennan]

I guess we'll never know. The fighters are bigger now, and have access to PEDS etc, how much impact that would have you can't really quantify. I am of course biased towards 90s as that's when I first started watching.

[SeanBrennan]

Killer Inside: The Mind of Aaron Hernandez Is a good one to watch of Netflix. Shows how much off the rails people can go with that sort of brain injury. Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE).

thanks, going to give it a watch.

Very good doc

it was chuffin brilliant

[Grant]

all time top 10

1. fury
2. wilder
3. wlad
4. otto wallin
5. chisora
6. steve cunningham
7. ali
8. louis
9. foreman
10. holmes

No Randall Cobb?